Harold A. "Big Lie" Covington

[Rev.WillWilliams]

"Hard to work with?" You don't know the half of it. His wishy-washy "we've got to come up with an ideal" doesn't offer anything, while at the same time he is very critical of the same anti-Xian ideals that like-minded William Pierce and Ben Klassen formulated and that he agrees with. Linder had been an Alliance member, then corroborated with the sleazeball Bill White for some reason to help destroy the National Alliance.

Linder is fascinated with neologisms. He thinks making up new words like "realitarian" to replace "realist" helps us to come up with those elusive ideals he says the White race so badly needs. A realitarian would more likely bring to mind to the average person a realtor who also an active Rotarian. Why not just say realist? Why be too clever by half? 

His criticism of Creativity doesn't stand up to fair debate, but VNN is his baby and he can ban or embrace anyone he wishes. An admitted queer like George Witzgall is a regular VNNer, as are plenty of devout Christlings, while Creators are banned. Go figure?

This CA forum is a nice refuge if only in that we can be reasonably assured that everyone here is pretty much in fundamental agreement on the three big questions: Race, the Jew and Xianity. That, dear WRCs, is the minimum about which EVERYONE in our ranks should be of the same mind. Most of the so-called WN movement are in agreement on the first two, but Creators stand apart by addressing #3, and forthrightly.

BTW, Linder permabanned me from his VNN sandbox a couple of years ago for this farewell post http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=68583&page=2
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March 9th, 2008         Post #33
White Will
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As far as I'm concerned, 'til proven otherwise, Commander ASSWIPE is a Jew AND a Fed.

Originally Posted by Alex Linder [to ck knott]
You call anyone else a jew without proof, and you're banned. This is your one warning.

[WW]
How 'bout if ctknott calls Commander ASSWIPE a "government informant?" Wasn't that the only other express accusation that warrants a VNNF banning?

Your resident obnoxious bully, the so-called Commander ASSWIPE, doesn't like being called an obnoxious bully by the SPLC, but he doesn't mind using the SPLC as a source to smear his detractors, like me, here: http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=738268#post738268 Notice how many links in this Jew's "expose" about me carry his readers to the SPLC Web site. My contention is that your obnoxious bully fed the Jew Holland the "neo-Nazi" connections in the first place. Let the lying government informant prove he did not. He announced his intentions to do just that here at VNN, then followed through, using this Jew Adam Holland and his SPLC "intelligence," and you have let it all stand.

By his own exceedingly Jewy behavior the burden is on your Commander ASSWIPE to prove he is not a Jew. I took your word he's a government informant, and still do. Whether you have reconciled with the lying SOB, or not, carries no weight with me. He and his "elite" ASSWIPErs are your problem, not mine. You're the one who enables the lying, obnoxious bully and the one that has foolishly painted himself into the ASSWIPE corner.

He has repeatedly called me a murderer and a child rapist on your forum. I'm not the forgiving type with an obnoxious, lying bully, like you are, Alex. These are specific, actionable libels of your obnoxious lying bully -- serious accusations of capital felonies. I say he is both a Jew and a government informant, which are not actionable libels. I don't need proof of that. I've got enough proof that he is the enemy of truth and of White resistance and renewal, whatever else he might be I'll leave to others to figure out while you give him aid and comfort here on your forum.

Alex, you can ban me for that, or you can let your resident hot shot lying government informant sue me for libel, IN A SEARCH FOR TRUTH. I prefer counter suits in these type matters, given a choice. I can call you as a defense witness on my counter charge that Commander ASSWIPE is a lying government informant. You nailed him good on that charge, the one you seem to want to shield him from today. I'll call folks like Commander Melcur to make the case that Commander ASSWIPE is a Jew. He's good in that area, and thorough.

You've known Commander ASSWIPE to be a bald-faced liar and say so, but truthfulness doesn't seem to carry much weight with you lately, apparently. What does it matter if a well-documented liar and professional disrupter is a Jew or government informant? Isn't it enough to know that he can't ever be relied upon to be truthful? Nobody likes a lying, obnoxious bully, except for you and the ASSWIPErs.

You might want to reconsider protecting the obnoxious, lying bully when he uses your forum to make his Covington-like, per se charges that I'm a murderer and child rapist. He has no witnesses or victims, just like Covington didn't have when he was spreading the same malicious fabrications about me, far and wide, while pretending -- just like your Commander ASSWIPE -- to be the "Leader of all National Socialists worldwide."

I require a full retraction of Commander ASSWIPE's character assassination and false charges that I'm a rapist and murderer, with lots of contrition and begging for my forgiveness, or I hold my post and stay on offense, exposing the lying fraud for what I know him to be. Or you can ban me and give the ASSWIPErs a free pass. Your call; you be d' boss. I make it easy for you by saying Commander ASSWIPE is both a lying Jew AND a government informant, and by refusing to run from those words.
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Linder always hated it when I'd point out on his own forum his hypocrisy or his contradictory positions. He banned me once before because I'm "always right." Not always, Alex, but I was sure right about your Commander ASSWIPE, wasn't I?

We'll leave the door open to Linder for when it's easier to become a Creator, eh?

[Rev.Cambeul]

We'll leave the door open to Linder for when it's easier to become a Creator, eh?

"In the beginning of a change, the patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated, and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot." Samuel Clements (better known as Mark Twain).

[Rev.WillWilliams]

Just thought I'd pile on a bit with the ever-nagging Covington issue. Posted this here: http://01f515f.netsolhost.com/blog1/?p=25&cpage=2#comment-142 after finding an relevant old post by my friend Gordon Ipock (who visited the Otto, NC, COTC facility on my watch there as H.P).
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Will Williams
July 16th, 2010 at 18:31 |
Post #29

Hadding said:
"As for the "Northwest Front" idea, I think you should beware of being overly influenced by a work of fiction...You and anybody that you persuade to go along with you will be getting "atta boy" letters from Harold Covington in the penitentiary for a long time."

[WW:]
You are not the first to suggest Covington is over the top with his provocations.

Five and 1/2 years ago my old friend Gordon Ipock from NC (writing as EdbergEdberg) made similar observations at the VNN forum: : http://www.vnnforum.com/archive/index.php/t-7495.html
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EdbergEdberg
February 3rd, 2005, 08:25 PM
I first met Harold Covington back in about 1987, after he had returned to North Carolina from Ireland. His purpose was to pick up the pieces of Glenn Miller's White Patriot Party. He always saw Glenn as an enlisted man and himself as officer material, and he genuinely disliked Glenn because Glenn had succeeded brilliantly in the White Movment where he had failed repeatedly. He was motivated by pure jealousy.

It didn't take me long to see that Harold's attempt at forming a neo-Confederate Nazi group was highly suspect. He had a way of wording his agenda so that followers were admitted enemies of the government... open rebels, much like the original Confederates were. It was bold stuff, but stupid as hell, unless his purpose was to set people up. I pointed this out to the followers he had attracted, and they quickly began to see what Harold was doing. You've got to understand, these guys and myself had just seen the Feds and Jews trash the WPP [White Patriot Party], which was a legal organization. Harold was building something illegal from the get-go.

In the years since I have seen Harold repeatedly attack anyone who was doing good things for our race. He spent several years attacking Ben Klassen when his COTC was white hot in the early 90s. Then during the mid-90s when the National Alliance began to make impressive strides he aimed his venom at Dr. Pierce. And the common element in both these groups was Will Williams. Will played a major role in the growth and success of both the COTC and the NA during the 90s. And for this hard work and success, Will also drew the venom of Harold Covington. *

I've watched Harold at work on internet Usenet groups and stuff since the mid-90s when he first became internet savvy. One thing always struck me: Harold always aimed his criticisms and lies at whomever was doing the most for our movement and race at any particular time. The only conclusion that I could reach was that Harold was working for the other side.

Harold is a very intelligent guy, and a talented writer. Perhaps he started out as a genuine pro-white activist... or perhaps he was working for the enemy from day one. I don't know where the truth is in this. But after watching him closely for several years, I could only conclude that if he wasn't on the payroll of the ADL or SPLC or the FBI, he damned sure should have been. Again, he spent most of the 1990s harshly criticizing Dr. William Pierce and the NA. And at the time, Pierce was like God and the NA was like his saints. I also had the pleasure of meeting Ben Klassen personally and he struck me as a man of high intelligence and good breeding, cultured and courteous, a real gentleman. This was while Covington was calling him "Benny Buttfuck".
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So, really, who cares if Covington is a "talented writer?" So is Charles Krauthammer. So is Frank Rich.

[Rev.WillWilliams]

This is a new blog launched by a comrade for the express purpose of refuting the lies of one Harold A. Covington in one specific document. Many of those lies are leveled at Creativity and its Founder, PM Ben Klassen
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http://noncounterproductive.blogspot.com/2010/08/harold-covingtons-defamation-of-ben.html

Setting the Record Straight

Dissecting the so-called "Brief History of the White Nationalist Movement"
Monday, August 9, 2010
Harold Covington's Defamation of Ben Klassen

Let's look at the case of Ben Klassen, a former Florida legislator who founded the Church of the Creator in 1973.

The anonymous author of the "Brief History," lapsing from pretend-scholarly mode, refers to him as "Benny" Klassen, which I remember also seeing in Harold Covington's Resistance newsletter in 1993 (which he authored under the pseudonym Winston Smith). After I initially posted this information on the Radio Free Mississippi forum (along with evidence that other sections of the Brief History had been written by him), Covington stated "that a lot of the Klassen material (although not all of it) is either plagiarized directly from my past writings or re-worked from my stuff."

There is nobody else with a history of attacking Ben Klassen like this, apart from a few that read Covington and repeat what he says.  The two smears that I address here certainly originated with Covington circa 1989-1993.

With the increased availability of information through internet in the past 15 years, it has become much easier to investigate an accusation about somebody's past, especially in the case of somebody like Klassen who was a Florida politician before he founded COTC.  I went to Google News Archives to see what I could find.

The "Brief History" alleges that Ben Klassen's country of birth is a great mystery, and that he has alleged several different ones at different times. The anonymous author gives no examples to support that claim.  I found a newspaper item that somewhat addresses this alleged confusion about Klassen's country of origin.


    Klassen, former Republican state representative from Pompano Beach, protested vigorously when the board denied his application to register for sale Palms and Pines Ranchos, a Collier County development.
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    "I don't want to appear contentious," said Klassen. "But I have lived in four countries and I am a refugee from communism and the only nation I chose to live in was the United States.  Jabbing his finger at his Constitution he continued, "I contend that when I can't sell my land due to some bureaucratic edict, my constitutional rights under the 14th Amendment have been abridge."   "Board  Eyes All Isolated Land Sales," from the St. Petersburg Times, 2  November 1968.


I looked into Ben Klassen's connection to the 1968 George Wallace presidential campaign in order to determine whether there was any evidence, as the Brief History alleges, that Klassen was involved in a group called "Jews for Wallace."  I really had no idea what I would find!  Could Covington have been right about something?  What I found was this.


    NO. 2 man on the Wallace-For-President Committee is former Rep. Ben Klassen, a Palm Beach Republican who lost out in an attempt to move from the House to the Senate.   "Wallace Supporters In State Gear For January," St. Petersburg Times,  6 December 1967.


The next article is about a dispute between two factions of Wallace supporters, about who was really in charge of the Florida campaign. On one side, Miami Realtor Thomas H. Hart, on the other side Dr. William Campbell Douglass and Ben Klassen.  Douglass and Klassen were both members of the John Birch Society, which Hart apparently regarded as political poison.  Since this article discusses the character and connections of the men on both sides of this dispute, you might expect "Jews for Wallace" to be mentioned, but it is not.


    Vice-chairman of Dr. Douglass' Wallace organization is Ben Klassen, a Palm Beach Republican, the only member of the Florida Legislature to identify himself as a member of the John Birch Society.   "Wallace  Men Feud in Florida," by Charles F. Hesser, from The Miami News,  7 December 1967.


There is plenty of mention of Ben Klassen's involvement in the 1968 Wallace for President campaign, but no mention of "Jews for Wallace" anywhere.


    The only curve in the state's new election law is that no more than 2458 signatures can come from any one county.  And there must be petitions from at least 34 different counties in the state with a minimum of 61 signatures on them.  But Broward County's Wallace chairman, Ben Klassen, has said this requirement can be easily met and will actually be an aide to Wallace workers in stimulating voter action.  Wallace  Builds Election Machine in Kirk County," from the St. Petersburg  Times, 18 January 1968.   


As far as I can tell, not only is there no mention in the online newspaper archives of any connection between Ben Klassen and Jews for Wallace: the organization may have never existed.  It certainly doesn't turn up in a newspaper archive search for the 1960s.  In a Google Web search, it only appears in the context of this smear of Ben Klassen.  Anybody can prove that to himself by doing a search on this term:


"Jews for Wallace" -Klassen


From all the books, all the newspapers, all the articles online, you will get zero results, which implies that "Jews for Wallace" probably never existed except as a fictional element in this attack on Klassen.

Klassen had a few words to say about Covington too while he was alive, although nothing trashy like what Covington has been promulgating about him. "Anatomy of a Hypocrite" from the March 1989 issue of Racial Loyalty can easily be found online.

Following publication of that criticism, Harold Covington sued for libel and lost.  Thereafter he began publishing scurrilous attacks on Ben Klassen and his right-hand man of the time, Will Williams, and subsequently against anybody, like Tom Metzger or Dr. William Pierce, that seemed to be other than hostile toward them.


Material about Klassen from the SPLC

The timeline in the Brief History's section on Ben Klassen is partially plagiarized fr0m an article originally published in the SPLC's Intelligence Report, Summer 1999, titled "A History."  Obviously, the author of the anonymous Brief History simply copied the SPLC's article and, maintaining the original format, simply made changes to it.

One of the changes was to alter a paragraph referring to the nature of Ben Klassen's involvement in the 1968 George Wallace campaign.  The SPLC's article, published in 1999 says this:

    1973 Benhardt "Ben" Klassen, a former Florida state legislator and state chairman of George Wallace's 1968 presidential campaign, announces the formation of the Church of the Creator (COTC) in Lighthouse Point, Fla. 


In his COTC chronology published sometime after 2003, Harold Anonymous Covington has changed SPLC's sentence to this:

    1973 - Benny Klassen, a former Florida state legislator and state chairman of "Jews for Wallace" during Wallace's 1968 presidential campaign, announces the formation of the Church of the Creator (COTC) in Lighthouse Point, Fla.

Apparently the anonymous historian deemed some of the SPLC's passages sufficiently hostile toward COTC as to require no further alteration, like this tidbit:

    1990 - Declaring that church leadership would change "at the top of every decade, on the decade," Klassen announces that Rudy "Butch" STANKO-then serving a six-year sentence for selling tainted meat-will take over once he is released from prison.

According to Rudy STANKO the meat was not tainted.  STANKO was the owner of Cattle King Meat Packing ,  a very large meat-packing business that had been in his family for three generations.  Meat-packing is now owned mainly by Jews and STANKO says that they determined to eliminate him as a non-Jewish competitor.  The Score is STANKO's book about his ordeal.  A real, good-faith history of White nationalism would have given STANKO's side of the story instead of just reproducing the SPLC's hostile summation verbatim and without comment.

The reason why the SPLC's entries for 1997, 1998, and 1999 are reproduced in the Brief History without alteration or addition is probably that Ben Klassen by that time had been dead a few years, so that it was not practical to change those entries in a way that would make them  defamatory to him.

[Rev.WillWilliams]

Some Creators would write Harold Covington off as no more than an entertaining soap opera, but with his decades-long smear campaign against Creativity and its Founder, Harold Covington should be viewed as the enemy.

Hadding has done a yeoman's job of thoroughly taking apart and debunking Covington's phony 75-page "A Brief History of the White Nationalist Movement," here: http://noncounterproductive.blogspot.com

A good chunk of that "brief history" is Covington's gratuitous, malicious smear of Ben Klassen, claiming he was a homosexual Jew, child rapist and murderer and that Creativity is a homosexual cult. Covington has some Xian Identity types on his side because they like to think the worst of Creativity, but some XI types know Covington is poison.

Hadding was approved by this Identity Xian forum to post his "history" debunking blog, here:

http://covenantpeoplesministry.org/forum/showthread.php?1891-Urban-Legends-of-the-White-Nationalist-Movement
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Hadding
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    Some, like Martin Lindstedt, prefer to believe that because Ben Klassen was anti-Christian he must have been a Jew. This is obviously not an adequate argument since there are many anti-Christians whom nobody suspects of being a Jew. It is important not to be self-pleasingly reckless, but to consider whether the argument that Covington offers even deserves to be taken seriously before accepting such a conclusion.

    Harold Covington Calls Ben Klassen a Jew

    Ben Klassen was a former Florida legislator who founded the Church of the Creator in 1973 and is the author of The White Man's Bible, Nature's Eternal Religion, and other books.

    The section about Klassen in A Brief History of the White Nationalist Movement is called "The Strange Case of Benny Klassen." It is essentially a very heavily re-worked version of an article from the SPLC's Intelligence Report, Summer 1999, titled "A History." "The Strange Case of Benny Klassen" retains that article's format and much of its text but incorporates smears that had been published in Harold Covington's Resistance newsletter in the early1990s.

    While the SPLC's "A History" concerns itself little with Klassen's life before the COTC, Covington's Brief History contains material, all of it defamatory, for the years 1948, 1966, and 1968. This material from the prehistory of the COTC was added to portray Klassen as a man with hidden Jewish origins. (This seems to be an adaptation of the true story of Harold Covington's own former associate, Frank Collin.)

    The most noteworthy fact about Klassen prior to founding the Church of the Creator, that in 1955 he had invented an improved form of electric can-opener, marketed as Canolectric, is not even mentioned in this so-called history. It is not an obscure fact! There are several references to Klassen's can opener in online news archives. The Hartford Courant of 8 December 1957 mentions that Canolectric was developed by Klassen Enterprises, Inc. The Miami News of 28 July 1958 contains the following note about the product:

        A new entry in the field of electric can openers is the Canolectric, made by Robbins & Myers, Inc., Memphis, Tenn., which claims that it is the only fully automatic can opener. It requires no manual piercing of the can lid or manual release of the cutting blade. You just push the button, says the firm, and that's all.


    Instead of presenting verifiable information like this about Klassen's life before the COTC, the author of the Brief History confines himself to innuendos that Klassen was a Jew and had been prosecuted for fraud, none of which is documentable. The five claims and their refutations are as follows:

    1. that Ben Klassen's origins are a great mystery, and that he has stated different dates and locations of his own birth on different occasions. Furthermore it is suggested that he may have used some other, distinctly Jewish name earlier in life, which could only be in question if his date and place of birth are unknown. No citations are given to support any of this. I found a newspaper item that somewhat addresses this alleged confusion about Klassen's origin:

        Klassen, former Republican state representative from Pompano Beach, protested vigorously when the board denied his application to register for sale Palms and Pines Ranchos, a Collier County development.

        [...]

        "I don't want to appear contentious," said Klassen. "But I have lived in four countries and I am a refugee from communism and the only nation I chose to live in was the United States. Jabbing his finger at his Constitution he continued, "I contend that when I can't sell my land due to some bureaucratic edict, my constitutional rights under the 14th Amendment have been abridge." "Board Eyes All Isolated Land Sales," from the St. Petersburg Times, 2 November 1968.



    This is consistent with what Klassen later wrote in his autobiography, Against the Evil Tide, as is evident even from the table of contents. A reporter for the Los Angeles Times had no difficulty putting the pieces together:

        Ben Klassen was born in Ukraine to German-speaking Mennonite parents. His family, described in his books as "early victims of Jewish Communism," lived briefly in Mexico and then moved to Canada, where he earned a degree in electrical engineering and a bachelor of arts. In 1945, Klassen settled in the United States and became a citizen three years later. (Sarah Henry, "Marketing Hate", Los Angeles Times, 12 December 1993.)


    2. that Klassen was indicted in 1948 along with several others (with Jewish names) for "mail fraud, bankruptcy fraud, and theft from interstate commerce by a Federal grand jury in New Orleans." The author admits however that he really knows of no such indictment when he says, "Details are sketchy." Grand jury indictments are a matter of public record, and it would have been reported in newspapers. A news archive search for 1947-1949 turns up nothing relevant.

    3. that there was a "bankruptcy fraud probe" circa 1966 involving Klassen and two partners with Jewish names in an alleged Palm Beach real estate firm. If you do a Google News Archive search on the terms Klassen and Shapiro and Weinleben you will find absolutely nothing. Likewise for "SKW Realty" in the 1950s and 60s.

    4. that Klassen's "religious affiliation is listed in the 1968 Florida State Government Who's Who as Jewish." There is no book called the Florida State Government Who's Who. There is Who's Who in Government, and there is Florida Lives: The Sunshine State Who's Who. The title that Covington gives is one that nobody will be able to find on the reference shelf of any library.

    5. that in 1968 Klassen was a member of "Jews for Wallace."

    Here is an article about a dispute between two factions of Wallace supporters, about who was really in charge of the Florida campaign. On one side, Miami realtor Thomas H. Hart, on the other side Dr. William Campbell Douglass and Ben Klassen. Douglass and Klassen were both members of the John Birch Society, which Hart apparently regarded as political poison. Since this article discusses the character and connections of the men on both sides of this dispute, you might expect "Jews for Wallace" to be mentioned, but it is not.

        Vice-chairman of Dr. Douglass' Wallace organization is Ben Klassen, a Palm Beach Republican, the only member of the Florida Legislature to identify himself as a member of the John Birch Society. ("Wallace Men Feud in Florida," by Charles F. Hesser, from The Miami News, 7 December 1967.)


    There is plenty of mention in old newspapers of Ben Klassen's involvement in the 1968 Wallace for President campaign, but no mention of "Jews for Wallace" anywhere.

        The only curve in the state's new election law is that no more than 2458 signatures can come from any one county. And there must be petitions from at least 34 different counties in the state with a minimum of 61 signatures on them. But Broward County's Wallace chairman, Ben Klassen, has said this requirement can be easily met and will actually be an aide to Wallace workers in stimulating voter action. ( Wallace Builds Election Machine in Kirk County," from the St. Petersburg Times, 18 January 1968.)



        NO. 2 man on the Wallace-For-President Committee is former Rep. Ben Klassen, a Palm Beach Republican who lost out in an attempt to move from the House to the Senate. ("Wallace Supporters In State Gear For January," St. Petersburg Times, 6 December 1967.)



    So far as I can tell, not only is there no mention in the online newspaper archives of any connection between Ben Klassen and Jews for Wallace: the organization may have never existed. It certainly doesn't turn up in a newspaper archive search for the 1960s. In a Google Web search, it only appears in the context of this smear of Ben Klassen. Anybody can prove that to himself by doing a search on this term:


    "Jews for Wallace" -Klassen


    From all the books, all the newspapers, all the articles online, you will get zero results, which implies that "Jews for Wallace" probably never existed except as a fictional element in this attack on Ben Klassen.

    Strong evidence that Covington himself invented "Jews for Wallace" can be derived through examination of how the Brief History differs from the SPLC's article. The first entry in the SPLC's chronology of the Church of the Creator, from which "The Strange Case of Benny Klassen" was rewritten, is dated 1973 and reads as follows:

        1973 Be[r]nhardt "Ben" Klassen, a former Florida state legislator and state chairman of George Wallace's 1968 presidential campaign, announces the formation of the Church of the Creator (COTC) in Lighthouse Point, Fla.


    (That happens to be slightly incorrect; Klassen was the vice-chairman for Florida and the chairman for Broward County.) In his COTC chronology, Harold Anonymous Covington has changed SPLC's sentence to this:

        1973 - Benny Klassen, a former Florida state legislator and state chairman of "Jews for Wallace" during Wallace's 1968 presidential campaign, announces the formation of the Church of the Creator (COTC) in Lighthouse Point, Fla.


    Covington, rewriting the SPLC's article, simply replaced "George" with "Jews for Wallace during" and replaced the respectful form of Klassen's name with the insulting diminutive, "Benny."* Since "Jews for Wallace" was not in Covington's source material, it is obvious that he invented it.


    Origin of the Conflict

    Klassen had a few words to say about Covington too while he was alive, although nothing so bizarre as what Covington has been promulgating about him. "The Anatomy of a Hypocrite" from the March 1989 issue of Racial Loyalty can easily be found online.

    From that essay one gets a hint of the basis of this conflict: Covington had tried to discourage Klassen from relocating to North Carolina because that was his own home state and he didn't want competition. This interpretation is confirmed in a letter written by Covington on 5 November 1992 wherein he complained that Will Williams was "trying to deliver the entire racialist movement in North Carolina to Old Benny Buttf-ck on a silver platter."

    Klassen, and Hasta Primus Will Williams, also accused Covington of tailoring his propaganda to attract Christians while being a nonbeliever and private ridiculer of Christianity himself. **

    Following publication of "The Anatomy of a Hypocrite," Covington retaliated by publishing highly imaginative libels against Ben Klassen and his right-hand man of the time, and subsequently against anybody (e.g., William Pierce, Tom Metzger) that seemed to be other than hostile toward them.

    Calling somebody that stands up for the White race a Jew is a traditional method of trying to undermine that person's support. They did it to Adolf Hitler. It wasn't true in Hitler's case (as DNA testing now confirms) and Harold Covington pretty clearly didn't have any evidence that it was true in Klassen's. It was just an unscrupulous way of attacking him, while diverting attention from criticisms of himself.

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    *Covington also does this to his younger brother Benjamin Covington for whom he seems to have considerable disdain, referring to him as Benjie.

    ** Covington's hidden contempt for Christians occasionally becomes manifest, for example in one of his novels, Hill of the Ravens, about which Martin Lindstedt complained on 22 December 2003 as follows: "I ended up asking about Covington back in 1998, when I was suspicious about being 'used' by appearing on Covington's 'Whitespeak' jewhoogruppen. Katya Lane ended up predicting, "Sooner or later you will grow tired of his lies." Well, I must have been stupid because I didn't figure out until reading Covington's latest self-published novel, "Swill of the Jayhawks" that Covington regarded Christian Identity soldiers as nothing but cannonfodder to be given third-rate sh-tizenship, if that, in Covington's 'NorthWest Republic' of covingtonistas."
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[Rev.WillWilliams]

Record of Facebook chat on Sun, Jan 16, 2011:

Harold Covington The White internet needs to start de-legitimizing and lowering the value and credibility level of ANONYMITY. We all need to adopt a personal policy of taking anything posted under a pseudonym, or where the poster is unwilling to provide any independently verifiable information about himself or his track record, with a grain of salt.

There are too many people swaggering across the internet claiming to be big authorities on White Nationalism and Movement events, bad-ass theoreticians, deep thinkers and intellectuals, mighty Skinhead Aryan warriors and God know what-all, who are in reality some weird, geeky little guy with spectacles or somebody like the Comic Book Guy in the The Simpsons

Or else they're Cognitive Dissonance operatives hired by Cass Sunstein or the ADL deliberately top spread confusion, dissension, and madness in White groups like this one. Trolls of all kinds thrive on anonymity, and we have to bring this to a halt if there is to be any hope of progress.

Wayne Pyrzewski Certainly, I think we all know it is good to use real names obviously, such as what I do. But I can understand at times people using aliases because there are groups of antis that search for the person's name and then report their account, thus getting them deleted.

Harold Covington By way of practicing what I preach, I am now looking for a picture of myself which is small enough to load for this site and also not from the "old days," which since I no longer advocate orthodox National Socialism would be misleading.

Mike Jahn Sounds to me like a fed trying to get names. Anonymity is an American right that our forefathers handed down to us. Nobody should be able to take it away.

Johann Georg Heidler Ben Franklin posted his Patriot Writings under the pseudo-name, "Poor Richard" and I believe Thomas Paine used the Names "The Patriot" and "The Farmer". Many Christian Identity Pastors also use pseudo-names to protect themselves from unwarranted attacks and harassment.

Tom Connington Every revolution is anonymous. People who want our names = feds.

Hadding Scott Harold, what does swearing off anonymity mean when nobody can find your physical location? For over a decade Will Williams has been trying to find you to serve some papers. (Which is why I maintain that your stories about receiving significant numbers of visitors are BS.) Get real. You have been in hiding for ten years so that nobody can find you, and you are going to preach to others about anonymity?

Hadding Scott By the way, there is a cash reward for anybody that gives Will Williams a tip that leads to Covington's being served. If you can't find out how to get in touch with WW let me know and I will put you in touch.

Mike Jahn What's the story behind this Hadding?

Hadding ScottCovington had been smearing Will Williams exactly the same way he smears Ben Klassen and Matt Koehl, but Will Williams sued him for libel and won. Instead of paying up or even shutting up, however, Covington kept at it, with the result that... he was found in contempt of court. Covington had to leave North Carolina to escape prosecution. (By the way, it was only after this that Covington embraced the "Northwest Imperative." Before that NC was the location of Covington's fantasy republic.) Covington was ordered to Will Williams over $100k, which with interest is over $200k. Williams wants to serve Covington some papers relating to that.

Mike Jahn And Convington has gone into hiding since?

Hadding Scott Yes.

Mike Jahn lol Ironic for a person like that to be talking about anonymity.

Hadding Scott Absolutely. A lot of Covington's preaching would be more properly directed at himself.

Mike Jahn What does the Blue - white and green flag stand for?

Hadding Scott That's Covington's make-believe Northwest Republic flag.

Mike Jahn Convington should have looked at a color wheel, blue and green don't compliment well.

Hadding Scott Yeah he probably wears stripes and plaid together too.

Hadding Scott Lesotho (one of South Africa's bantustans) also has a blue, white, and green flag.
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/1355354/Lesotho-flag-of

Mike Jahn LOL Lesotho flag is pretty similar, same order of colors too

Mike Jahn So what is this Republic? I believe Mr.Roberts told me about this, something to do with vikings?

Hadding Scott Well, Covington has two basic routines these days: 1, preaching about "character," and 2, complaining that nobody has a "plan" and claiming that relocating to the Northwest constitutes a plan. The idea is to secede someday.

Mike Jahn Personally my plan at jettandjahn.com is to reach out to the white youth and radicalize them through entertainment. What do you think?

Hadding Scott I think that engaging with other White people and helping them to get their minds straight makes more sense than moving to another part of the country, yes.

Mike Jahn If you keep running they'll keep following imo.

Hadding Scott Well, the premise for any successful war of secession from the United States is that the USA is basically already defunct anyway. I think this Northwest Republic fantasy is largely a way for Covington to sell novels.

Mike Jahn I spoke to someone about any potential war and we came to the conclusion that any sort of civil war would require a lot of outside support as well as public support. A small "republic" somewhere out in the woods would be a 1 day war for the US army.

Hadding Scott Jahn, yes. The American War for Independence would not have succeeded without French help. The Confederacy hoped for that kind of help and didn't get it.

LATER THE SAME DAY ON ANOTHER THREAD:

Harold Covington Can you say Cognitive Dissonance operatives? Sure you can!

Harold Covington The White internet needs to start de-legitimizing and lowering the value and credibility level of ANONYMITY. We all need to adopt a personal policy of taking anything posted under a pseudonym, or where the poster is unwilling to provide any... independently verifiable information about himself or his track record, with a grain of salt.

There are too many people swaggering across the internet claiming to be big authorities on White Nationalism and Movement events, bad-ass theoreticians, deep thinkers and intellectuals, mighty Skinhead Aryan warriors and God know what-all, who are in reality some weird, geeky little guy with spectacles or somebody like the Comic Book Guy in the The Simpsons

Or else they're Cognitive Dissonance operatives hired by Cass Sunstein or the ADL deliberately top spread confusion, dissension, and madness in White groups like this one. Trolls of all kinds thrive on anonymity, and we have to bring this to a halt if there is to be any hope of progress.

Hadding Scott Your anti-anonymity rhetoric would seem a little more convincing if you weren't in hiding for the past decade, Harold. [Wayne Pyrzewski likes this.]
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