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you have to feel sorry for them ( ha ha ) they have to get the figures up so they can carry on getting there money.
poor little Jews. bet if you told the Arabs they would get lots of flowers and sympathy cards. that might make it all better.  :'(   

thanks for the reply. and the answer to your question is yes i have read all the books. but to be fully honest the last time i read  Salubrious Living was in the early 90 s when i was first in contact with the church.
i only asked the initial question because of the post lucky find. and could not understand the church teachings as i understand them and that post.
but that's why i ask. i don't say i am right or wrong on any point. i ask to find out. and then hopefully i learn from more experienced members of the church like yourself.
and thanks to your reply s i feel i am learning every time.
as i have said in other posts i believe the best way to learn is to ask and that is all am trying to do.

thanks for your comments. and yes it is always just my opinion. as for suggesting people live my way i was not. i was as normal just trying to put the questions from what i see and think about posts on the site. but like i say thanks for your comments   

here i go again.
Salubrious Living ? how many people in the church lives by the founders teachings on Salubrious Living.
how many smokes ? how many drinks ? how many only eats the way put down in the teachings ?
going off the post about lucky find . i don't think many.
i don't.
i grow my own food, i have my own animals for milk and meat. i even grow my own tobacco. and make my own wine and spirits. plus i make my own punch bags etc. to keep fit.
this is my idea of healthy living. plus it helps keep me out of the system.
so here it goes !
should the church drop the teachings on this subject ?
if as i think not many, if any, people in the church lives by it. then is it not a subject that will help the church. i will go further it makes us look like a bunch of nuts.
humans even from the cavemen drank and cooked meat ect ect

I can understand how the brother feels I have been there myself in the past, but as is stated, this is not the way of the Church.

We need to keep to the teachings and leave that sort of thing to the people who are happy to waste their life behind bars sitting in a cell.