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Why Were the Jews, Africans & Amerindians Left Behind the Industrial Revolution?

Started by N567, Tue 09 Feb 2021

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Br.IanVonTurpie

It's not clear if American Indians had machines or not to
Me. It's not clear who or what engineered Puma Punku . It's not "Child's play" . Their Pyramids are pretty advanced for the times they were built.
It's not clear if Egyptians had machines either (Africa).

It's not clear that the Pacific Islanders of Easter Island had machines. Nobody has found any or tools but  how else did they carve the statues.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter_Island



The Olmec heads wouldn't be simple to sculpt.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olmec_colossal_heads



The discovery of the first colossal head at Tres Zapotes in 1862 by José María Melgar y Serrano was not well documented nor reported outside of Mexico.[2] The excavation of the same colossal head by Matthew Stirling in 1938 spurred the first archaeological investigations of Olmec culture. Seventeen confirmed examples are known from four sites within the Olmec heartland on the Gulf Coast of Mexico. Most colossal heads were sculpted from spherical boulders but two from San Lorenzo Tenochtitlán were re-carved from massive stone thrones. An additional monument, at Takalik Abaj in Guatemala, is a throne that may have been carved from a colossal head. This is the only known example from outside the Olmec heartland.

Dating the monuments remains difficult because of the movement of many from their original contexts prior to archaeological investigation. Most have been dated to the Early Preclassic period (1500–1000 BC) with some to the Middle Preclassic (1000–400 BC) period. The smallest weigh 6 tons, while the largest is variously estimated to weigh 40 to 50 tons, although it was abandoned and left uncompleted close to the source of its stone.

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Quote from: Br.IanVonTurpie on Tue 23 Feb 2021
It's not clear if American Indians had machines or not to
Me. It's not clear who or what engineered Puma Punku . It's not "Child's play" . Their Pyramids are pretty advanced for the times they were built.
It's not clear if Egyptians had machines either (Africa).
It's not clear that the Pacific Islanders of Easter Island had machines. Nobody has found any or tools but  how else did they carve the statues.

Well like I said, they only built pyramids and stone statues while the Eurasians built more complex structures that actually had practical use such as the Stonehenge astronomical calendars, farms, ranches, agricultural terraces, aquaculture centers, cisterns, apartment blocks, animal mill, watermill, and windmill factories, blast furnaces, oil refineries, roads, highways, cantilever bridges, drawbridges, suspension bridges, causeways, mass transit in the form of chariots, rickshaws, hand carts, carts, carriages, wagons, sleds, sleighs, ferry rafts, ferry boats, and ocean going ships, telecommunications in the form of signal horns, signal trumpets, smoke signals, zoetropes, bells, and semaphore flags, computers such as the suanpan, also known as the abacus, aircraft such as the kite, sky lantern, and kite glider, artificial islands that were used as commercial and naval relay stations for ships, armor, armor piercing weapons, armored cavalry, armored siege engines such as the battering ram, mobile siege ladder, mobile moat crossing bridge, armored carriage, armored siege tower, ballista, springald, and catapult, incendiary weapons such as flaming arrows, flaming spears, flamethrowers, fire jars, fire pots, and fire stones, gunpowder weapons such as the fire gourd, fire arrow, fire spear, fire ball, guns, cannons, grenades, smoke bombs, artillery shells, mines, and rockets, armored battleships armed with catapults, and weapons of mass destruction such as fire ships, fire oxen, explosive fire oxen, fragmentary fire oxen, toxic vapor bombs, catapulted rotting biomass, and hellburners and all of this is proof of our racial superiority.

Br.IanVonTurpie

Of course what you said is true about Europeans and our inventions and achievements. You see the cold brings necessity. You have to :- build castles not just to protect you from the elements but neighbours with advanced weapons. You have to :- mine , farm, plan, build, reason, co- ordinate and have responsibility.

This is something people in hot climates never had to do . When ever there is a challenge there is no talking just "Hulk smaaaash!" They are not evolved with problem solving abilities.


The stuff the American Indians and Egyptians made that was advanced wasn't always practical stuff . It was ornamental and religeous artefacts In many cases  that are impossible none the less and shouldn't really exist technically.

They went to tremendous efforts to build statues and structures for these reasons .... but why didn't they put their efforts into more practical inventions?

You could say Stone Henge in Aincient Britain is ornamental and religeous monument ? It was an aincient calendar. How did they put the rocks on top of each other? Why would you bring them from Wales to Salisbury plain?
On that specific site?
It was made by Bronze Age Celts. Without known machines or tools. Just log rollers. Why bother rolling. Stones up hills? Through creek beds etc?

Perhaps the aincient Celts , Indians, Egyptians and Easter Islanders were tuned into supernatural realms? Or had assistance from Aliens?
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Quote from: Br.IanVonTurpie on Wed 24 Feb 2021Perhaps the aincient Celts , Indians, Egyptians and Easter Islanders were tuned into supernatural realms? Or had assistance from Aliens?

It is not just the climate that determined the level of scientific and technological progress of Eurasia because even the Spanish, Portuguese, Arabs, Indians and Chinese who lived in long stretches of desert in many parts of their empires also had industrial level technology that was far in advance of what the Jews, Africans, and Native Americans had, which was nothing, but also the lack or forced prohibition of superstitious practices.

This had 2 effects, the 1st is that the prohibition of superstitions like witchcraft, even in pagan times, prevented the spread of irrational ideas that may brainwash people into being illogical and cult like in their way of thinking.

The 2nd effect is that the witches who were executed could not pass their inferior genes onto the next generation of people which rendered the gene pool free of gene pollution that could lead to the breeding of unintelligent people.

The beliefs of the polytheistic pagans and the monotheistic religions of Europe and Asia were not as irrational as the superstitions of the Jews, Africans, and Native Americans.

The only irrational ideas in the Eurasian religions were the belief in an afterlife, divine punishment, heaven and hell, reincarnation, miracles, prophecies determined by oracles, prophets, and holy scriptures, and the concept of an apocalypse or end of the world.

While the Jews, Africans, and Native Americans have very bizarre superstitions, like cannibalism, human sacrifice, the practice of scalping by the Native Americans, and even today extremely superstitious practices like beheading bald men and trying to extract gold from their heads along with drying live babies to death in a magic ritual, that would supposedly grant wealth, are still practiced by Africans while Jewish Rabbis still suck the penises of circumcised newborn boys.

Like I said in this other thread:

https://creativityalliance.com/forum/general-jabber/the-agrarian-eurasians-and-the-primitive-jews-africans-and-native-americans/msg35993/#msg35993

The ancient Eurasians already had machines like the quern stone as early as 8000 BCE, which they used to grind grains and other materials, so it is very possible for them to have other sophisticated tools and machines which they used to make structures like the Stonehenge.

For example, aside from using roller logs, curved cradles, sleds, and rafts to transport the stones, they could have lifted the stones using levers to pry the stones off the ground and ropes connected to teams of draft animals to pull the stones into an upright position.

The stones on top of the posts could have been positioned into place by sliding them up ramps using the roller logs, curved cradles, or sleds which would be pulled by teams of draft animals.

Because of the absence of manufacturing tools, machines, and draft animals, the Native Americans and Easter Islanders had to build their structures entirely by hand which is not impossible but very time consuming, especially since they did not even possess metal tools.

They would have had to use hard stones like obsidian to carve the stones into specific shapes, which is harder than using dolerite or metal and will take longer.

The pyramids of the Mesoamericans had to use smaller stone blocks than the Egyptian ones because they did not possess roller logs, curved cradles, sleds, and draft animals to pull massive stones while the Easter Islanders would have had to carve stones that are already in an upright position because they did not possess the levers, ropes, and draft animals to raise up a lying stone.

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Quote from: N567 on Wed 24 Feb 2021The only irrational ideas in the Eurasian religions were the belief in an afterlife, divine punishment, heaven and hell, reincarnation, miracles, prophecies determined by oracles, prophets, and holy scriptures, and the concept of an apocalypse or end of the world.

This is a personal thing to believe. I have had experience with supernatural things and personally believe there are realms outside our own that cross over and these entities co- exist with our realm. I think these things are out there if you look hard enough, then you'll find it.

The thing that gets me though is "how can something come out of nothing"? There are things you can't see like:- radio waves, magnetic powers, microwaves. Just because you can't see it though it doesn't mean it isn't there.

The Hermit stands on a mountain . His staff represents wisdom / knowledge and his light is calling you up to his mountain top to take it. Will you climb that Mountain to take it off him though?







As far as Easter Island  statues go they think they walked them into position using ropes. No trees to make rollers really.

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Quote from: Br.IanVonTurpie on Wed 24 Feb 2021As far as Easter Island  statues go they think they walked them into position using ropes. No trees to make rollers really.


The Easter Islanders are Polynesians and they, like the Micronesians and Melanesians are Mongols from Asia so their civilizations are advanced enough that they know how to make ropes and employed the technique in the video for moving the stone statues.

Many of the Southeast Asian Islanders and Eastern Pacific Islanders also possessed advanced technologies like the ability to build buildings that are up to 2 stories high, animal mill factories, ocean going sailing ships, and artificial islands.

Quote from: Br.IanVonTurpie on Wed 24 Feb 2021The thing that gets me though is "how can something come out of nothing"? There are things you can't see like:- radio waves, magnetic powers, microwaves. Just because you can't see it though it doesn't mean it isn't there.

Electromagnetic radiation is caused by the vibration of photons.

Photons are the particles that make up the electromagnetic fields of charged particles like electrons.

When the charged particles are concentrated into a space to create an imbalance of charge like depositing electrons from one conductive plate to another in the case of a capacitor, the fields of each individual electron become concentrated and what is generated is called an electric field.

When the spins and orbits of electrons are focused into a single direction, the photons would move in circular patterns and the forces and momentum of the photons would add up to generate what is called a magnetic field. The spins and orbits of electrons can be aligned in a single direction by exposing metals with loose electrons at the outer orbits of their atoms such as iron to magnetic fields from another source: this is called magnetization, and the spins and orbits of the electrons can also be aligned by running the electrons through an inductor with or without a metal core and this is referred to as an electromagnet.

When the charged particles are made to vibrate such as when a material is heated by fire or electricity, the photons surrounding the charged particles will also vibrate and this is what is called radiation.

The energy of a particle can be calculated using the formula below:

E = hf

Where:


E - is the energy of the particle
h - is Planck's constant
f - is the frequency of the particle 

The source of a particle's mass is its interaction with the Higgs Boson and particles only interact with the Higgs Bosons when they vibrate.

This is why the vibrating photons from a source of radiation can be bent by the gravity of massive objects or be absorbed by a black hole, while the photons of an electric and magnetic field cannot be attracted to gravity because those photons are not vibrating which means that they are not generating mass by interacting with the surrounding Higgs Bosons.

Massive particles like the electrons, protons, and neutrons in an atom never become massless because they are always vibrating and the frequency of the particle's vibration can only be lowered up to a certain point: this is the reason why particles with mass cannot have their temperature reduced to 0 Kelvin. The minimum energy that massive particles possess because they have a minimum vibrating frequency that cannot be reduced to 0 is called the 0 point energy of the particle.

The frequency of massive particles and thus its 0 point energy and mass can only be reduced to 0 in the case of particle decay and matter-antimatter annihilation.

When the particle decays into another particle its 0 point energy or mass is reduced to 0 because it completely transfers its energy to another particle to make it vibrate so that that particle gains the mass-energy.

When a particle is annihilated with its antimatter counterpart such as the case with electron-positron annihilation, the energy of both particles is transferred completely to 2 photons that would start vibrating at the gamma ray frequency, and when those gamma ray photons decay, they will transfer their energy back to an electron-positron pair.

The mass of a particle can be calculated using the formula below (hint: Einstein the fraud stole it from Oliver Heaviside and Olinto de Pretto):

E = mc^2

To calculate the mass, the mass variable m must be isolated, so the following formula is derived:

m = E/c^2

Where:


m - is the mass
E - is the energy
c - is the speed of light in a vacuum which is equivalent to 299,274 km/s

 
 
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