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Why Were the Jews, Africans & Amerindians Left Behind the Industrial Revolution?

Started by N567, Tue 09 Feb 2021

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Quote from: Br.IanVonTurpie on Sat 20 Feb 2021

Machines eh? Ancient ones?
Seriously there's some stuff that's been built that is damn impossible a long time ago ....

They cut the stones using a technique called dolerite pounding and they moved the stones using roller logs, sleds, and curved cradles wrapped around the stone to make it roll like a wheel.

When mills were invented around 500BCE, they started building stone cutting mills to cut the stone into shape.

With the use of dolerite or mill powered grinders, no saw marks would form on the stones because these devices have no teeth.

The use of these devices allowed stone blocks to be mass produced which made it possible to construct multi-story apartment blocks all over Europe and Asia that were usually up to 5 stories high.

If you look at images of cities in Europe and Asia they are full of apartment blocks that have been there for thousands of years.

Below are images of ancient cities with uniform apartment blocks made of mass produced interchangeable parts:

Poznan, Poland:



Lalitpur, Nepal:


Br.IanVonTurpie

In the case of Puma punku , there were no trees at high altitudes for them to roll the stones, no found tools.
Perfect drilled holes and precision that is just phenomenal ! Do you think it was all diorite pounding?

Then there is stuff like The Japanese Atlantis


Thought to be made in the last ice age?
Then sunken. Look at the angles in the rock, far too precise to be geological features.

No evidence of:-
Machines, electricity Or tools or metals capable of cutting this stone in the way it has.

The European has invented some awesome machines ok!
However Look at what was done in aincient times prior to any known machines that exist!

Egypt is in Africa and the craftsman ship on their stuff is amazing! It's believed the original people there were not Arabs but Greek people / European races. However race mixing destroyed the people that were once there.

Once I read an interesting book "The Giza Power plant" by Christopher Dunn.

https://www.scribd.com/book/351486810/The-Giza-Power-Plant-Technologies-of-Ancient-Egypt

Check it out! This bloke reckons the Pyramids were not tombs but aincient power stations using aincient technologies.
Perhaps worth a read?
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Quote from: Br.IanVonTurpie on Sun 21 Feb 2021In the case of Puma punku , there were no trees at high altitudes for them to roll the stones, no found tools.
Perfect drilled holes and precision that is just phenomenal ! Do you think it was all diorite pounding?

Then there is stuff like The Japanese Atlantis
Thought to be made in the last ice age?
Then sunken. Look at the angles in the rock, far too precise to be geological features.

No evidence of:-
Machines, electricity Or tools or metals capable of cutting this stone in the way it has.

The European has invented some awesome machines ok!
However Look at what was done in aincient times prior to any known machines that exist!

Egypt is in Africa and the craftsman ship on their stuff is amazing! It's believed the original people there were not Arabs but Greek people / European races. However race mixing destroyed the people that were once there.

Once I read an interesting book "The Giza Power plant" by Christopher Dunn.

https://www.scribd.com/book/351486810/The-Giza-Power-Plant-Technologies-of-Ancient-Egypt

Check it out! This bloke reckons the Pyramids were not tombs but aincient power stations using aincient technologies.
Perhaps worth a read?

The animal mills, watermills, and windmills were the power plants of the ancients.

And civilizations never collapsed, all of the countries then and its people are still here today despite having different names.

The Japanese already had their own factories called water scoop mills in ancient times and below is an image of a water scoop mill:



The Water Scoop Mill: a type of water mill, invented by the Japanese, that generates mechanical power by letting water from a downstream river flow into the hollow container at the end of a lever which then empties when the weight of the water drags the lever down, a counterweight then pulls the opposite end of the lever down and the end with the container back up so that it can again be filled with water, generating a reciprocating motion that is used to power hammers in forge mills, saws in sawmills, stamps in stamp mills used for mining, and to make wool textiles in fullers, and pottery in pottery mills, and this allowed them to produce goods on an industrial scale, with the time period from 500BCE-1700 being the 1st Industrial Revolution, a technological revolution that turned the entire Eurasian landmass into a large floating factory and gave the empires of Asia and Europe the power to conquer and subjugate the tribal societies of Eurasia and later the tribes in the Americas, Africa, and Oceania.

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Quote from: Br.IanVonTurpie on Mon 22 Feb 2021
We're the Pryamids aincient power plants?

I am not sure about pyramids being power plants but the use of buoys or rafts to transport large stones on water has been tested.

The only thing that needs to be done is to push the stone into the buoy or raft by prying the stone off the ground and into rollers, sleds or a lubricant so that it will slide into the buoy or raft placed near the edge of the water.

QuoteThe Egyptians put a lot of effort into Quarrying stones from Aswan and brought them to the Giza plateau on boats on the Nile. There is a good 900 km's between the two places.



Keeping on topic here the American Indians did megalithic works with precise cuts in Cusco . No water or rivers near by to achieve this task Of not only getting them on site but putting them on top of each other.
If the Indians had machines to do this , it wasn't from our world.

Personally I believe there is a lot of knowledge that was around by many cultures that has been lost.

Because the Amerindians did not have any machinery, they only built limited numbers of large stone structures such as pyramids unlike the Eurasians who built large structures for occupation by residents because they possessed the aforementioned milling machinery that allowed them to mass produce stone blocks, wooden planks, and ceramic tiles which they used to build inns and apartment blocks that completely filled their cities.

While the Jews, Africans, and Amerindians were only living in small single story structures, sometimes just huts or tents, the Eurasians already had high rise buildings for mass occupancy that filled the skylines of their megalopolises.

And the Eurasians had mass transport in the form of chariots, rickshaws, carts, and carriages which traveled through dirt roads or roads paved with wood or stone panels and oar powered ferry boats that provided intracity and intercity taxi services using a network of stone canals that run throughout their Empires. 

Br.IanVonTurpie

It's not clear if American Indians had machines or not to
Me. It's not clear who or what engineered Puma Punku . It's not "Child's play" . Their Pyramids are pretty advanced for the times they were built.
It's not clear if Egyptians had machines either (Africa).

It's not clear that the Pacific Islanders of Easter Island had machines. Nobody has found any or tools but  how else did they carve the statues.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter_Island



The Olmec heads wouldn't be simple to sculpt.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olmec_colossal_heads



The discovery of the first colossal head at Tres Zapotes in 1862 by José María Melgar y Serrano was not well documented nor reported outside of Mexico.[2] The excavation of the same colossal head by Matthew Stirling in 1938 spurred the first archaeological investigations of Olmec culture. Seventeen confirmed examples are known from four sites within the Olmec heartland on the Gulf Coast of Mexico. Most colossal heads were sculpted from spherical boulders but two from San Lorenzo Tenochtitlán were re-carved from massive stone thrones. An additional monument, at Takalik Abaj in Guatemala, is a throne that may have been carved from a colossal head. This is the only known example from outside the Olmec heartland.

Dating the monuments remains difficult because of the movement of many from their original contexts prior to archaeological investigation. Most have been dated to the Early Preclassic period (1500–1000 BC) with some to the Middle Preclassic (1000–400 BC) period. The smallest weigh 6 tons, while the largest is variously estimated to weigh 40 to 50 tons, although it was abandoned and left uncompleted close to the source of its stone.

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