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Churchill Preferred Summary Executions Over Nuremburg Travesty of Justice

Started by Rev.Cambeul, Thu 08 Nov 2012

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Churchill 'opposed Nuremberg and wanted Nazi leaders executed or jailed without trial', extraordinary MI5 wartime diaries reveal

PM was swayed against idea at 'Big Three' in 1945 by Roosevelt and Stalin
Roosevelt argued at the conference that US public would want proper trials
'Wallflowers' diary was by former MI5 head of counter-espionage Guy Liddell
DPP wanted selected Nazi leaders to be 'bumped off' rather than put on trial


By Mark Duell | Daily Mail, UK | 26 October 2012

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2223383/Churchill-opposed-Nuremberg-wanted-Nazi-leaders-executed-jailed-trial.html

Winston Churchill wanted Nazi leaders to be executed and others imprisoned without trial - instead of going through the Nuremberg war crimes tribunals, according to wartime diaries declassified today.

But Britain's wartime prime minister was said to have been swayed against the idea at the famous 'Big Three' conference in 1945 by US president Franklin D Roosevelt and Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin.

Roosevelt argued the US public would want proper trials and Stalin thought they would provide good propaganda. The British agreed to the hearings, despite fears they could set a dangerous example.

The 1940s and 1950s diary was by ex-MI5 head of counter-espionage Guy Liddell, who backed a plan from Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP) Sir Theobald Mathew to 'bump off' certain Nazis.

He dictated an entry in June 1945 about talks with a member of the British War Crimes Executive, an MI6 official and a Special Operations Executive representative over a war crimes prosecution.

Mr Liddell said the DPP wanted a committee to 'come to the conclusion that certain people should be bumped off and that others should receive varying terms of imprisonment', reported the Guardian.

This would have been put to the Commons - and 'any military body finding these individuals in their area' would have had authority to 'arrest them and inflict whatever punishment had been decided on'.

'This was a much clearer proposition and would not bring the law into disrepute,' Mr Liddell said.


According to The Times, he added in the diary which was codenamed Wallflowers: 'Winston had put this forward at Yalta but Roosevelt felt that the Americans would want a trial.

'Joe supported Roosevelt on the perfectly frank ground that the Russians liked public trials for propaganda purposes.

'It seems to me that we are just being dragged down to the level of the travesties of justice that have been taking place in the USSR for the past 20 years.'


A year later Mr Liddell flew to Nuremberg with MI5 deputy head Oswald Harker to witness 21 senior Nazis prosecuted - and felt his concerns about a show trial had been confirmed, reported the Guardian.

'One cannot escape the feeling that most of the things the 21 are accused of having done over a period of 14 years, the Russians have done over a period of 28 years,' he wrote in the diary.

Mr Liddell said this contributed to the 'somewhat phoney atmosphere of the whole proceedings'.


He added that the experience led to one of the biggest worries for him, that the court was 'one of the victors who have framed their own charter, their own procedure and their own rules of evidence in order to deal with the vanquished'.

The Nuremberg trials were a defining moment in war crimes justice that saw the 21 defendants accused of acts such as crimes against peace and humanity, and murder of prisoners.

It was described by the British president of the tribunal, Justice Geoffrey Lawrence, as 'unique in the history of the jurisprudence of the world and of supreme importance to millions of people'.

The accused included Hermann Goring, Commander of the Luftwaffe; Admiral Karl Donitz, who became president of German after Adolf Hitler's death; and Hitler's close friend Albert Speer.

Churchill became prime minister during World War Two in May 1940 and helped inspire the nation to victory, before losing power in 1945. He was prime minister for a second time from 1951 to 1955.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/news/policy-files-oct-2012.htm
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 Churchill was a war criminal, a traitor to the White Race, an idiot, a madman who thought he was a redskin!, the man who destroyed the British Empire (because of his stupid war on Germany). The inventor of the concentration camp and murderer of tens of thousands of Boer women and children.
No wonder the Jews just unveiled a statue of him recently.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/nov/04/winston-churchill-sculpture-unveiled-jerusalem
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Rev.Cambeul

Churchill only cared about three things, his ego, his money and his Israel.

Thanks for the link Reverend Albert:

Winston Churchill sculpture unveiled in Jerusalem

Harriet Sherwood in Jerusalem | guardian.co.uk | November 2012

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/nov/04/winston-churchill-sculpture-unveiled-jerusalem

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The commissioning of the bust by the Jerusalem Foundation followed the publication five years ago of Churchill and the Jews by the statesman's official biographer, Martin Gilbert. "The book laid out in crystal clear form that Churchill throughout his life was a passionate believer in the cause of Zionism," said Antony Rosenfelder, a British trustee of the foundation.

He said that it was "astounding" how little recognition there had been in Israel "for a man who, over half a century, did so much not just to ensure Israel's survival but actually to help the development of the state. This is just a small way of thanking someone for something I think is fairly central to Israel today."

The ceremony was attended by the former prime minister's great grandson, Randolph Churchill. "It means a huge amount to our family," he said.


The bust is situated close to the ... King David hotel, which was bombed in 1946 by Jewish militants when it was the headquarters of the British Mandate authorities. Ninety-one people were killed. [more ...]
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