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A soul.

Started by RalphViola, Mon 14 Nov 2011

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Quote from: Rev.Albert on Tue 31 Jan 2012The whole idea of the soul goes back to ancient Egypt. they called it the "Ka" and envisaged it as a winged spirit. The jews later stole the idea and passed it on to the arabs and christians.

Yes, and the Celts, Germanics and Greco-Romans also being primitive peoples had much the same concept of a soul. The Greeks however being technologically apt at the time - to the extent of even designing a steam engine and manufacturing mechanical computers of a sort - understood more so than the superstitious Romans ever would, that nature has nothing to do with invisible spirits. As they discarded their gods, they discarded belief in the soul, which allowed existential philosophy to take its place. The Romans, who were heading in the same direction, totally bungled that up when they adopted the Republic/Empire wide Cult of the Divine Julius, which ultimately led to Christinsanity, and a resurgence of the Dark Ages of superstition from which we are only now emerging.

Quote from: Rev.Albert on Tue 31 Jan 2012The fact Neanderthals buried their dead with flowers etc suggests that even they for 400,000 years had had a notion of another world "the land of the dead or spirit world."

No, that's just the superstitious talking again. The Neanderthals could just as well have been honouring the dead for sentimental reasons without any belief in an immortal soul at all. It is the height of hubris for those of the Abrahamic faith to claim that respect for the dead is proof of a belief in an immortal soul, and that if we were true non-believers, we would treat our dead as we would treat butchered cattle.

I may have done it a little differently than you with your daughter and her bunny, but I accept that children see the world differently from adults, and their belief in fairytale lands helps them accept reality. It is only natural that as they mature and begin to understand, that they discard their childish fantasies and embrace reality for what it is. That some adults who "should know better" find comfort in a continuation of belief in fairytale lands is a condemnation of the culture that embraces such beliefs.

... And why our task as Creators, is all that much harder.

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Quote from: Rev.Albert on Mon 30 Jan 2012Creators. We say there is no evidence for a soul, a spirit, life after death or afterlives..and if there is... give us the evidence. where is it? what is it made of? is made of molecules? or energy? why can't our scientific instruments ( that can detect and analyse other worlds going around stars 600 light years away), why can't they detect it?

Maybe thats the point ! :) maybe it must be surprise after dead :) You didnt thinking in the past, its to bad when you die its OVER ? it sad :)) i mean when you die, you dont feel antything , so you will not be sad and break down. But what if there is something :) hehe i know thats guesses   ( ;     o/
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