A Christian Solution - Bishop Williamson.

[StephenMasten]

Just finished reading Bishop Williamson's 'Eleison Comments' piece, 'Issue CDV (405)' from April 18th 2015. In it he poses the question, can a Pope be deposed for his heresy? As Williamson is a 'traditionalist catholic' he views 'Vatican II' as heretical and therefore any Pope that supports it is a heretic also. So in the Comments we wade through a lot of convoluted twaddle by some theologian from the 17th century who explains how a Pope can be deposed and declared a heretic. We get to the penultimate paragraph and the conclusion is that only Christ has authority over the Pope and that he alone has the 'authoritative' power to depose him. In the final paragraph the Bishop declares with an 'alas' that all the Cardinals and Bishops that are running the show today are so infected with the same wickedness as the Popes that there isn't a snowball in hells chance that they would ever declare a pro-Vatican II Pope a heretic. So what is the 'wonderful' solution that the Bishop has to offer his flock? 'We can only pray and wait for the divine solution, which will come in God's good time.' Yep, that's just what we need! Thanks, Bishop! :-/

See also  Vatican II: Love Jews & Muslims, But Hate Heretical Creators
https://creativityalliance.com/forum/index.php/topic,6904.0.html

[Maritz]

I`ve found that the Christian has a answer to every problem, only problem is that it is based on their own religious reality - if you point it out to them you get the "my-way-or-the-highway" scenario.

Mudslums are invading Europe - "We can only pray and wait for the divine solution, which will come in God's good time"

Farmers are being murdered in the most brutal way in South Africa - "We can only pray and wait for the divine solution, which will come in God's good time"

We can see why the White Race is in serious trouble ...

[Br.IanVonTurpie]

No. it is usually "God said this, I didn't, do you compare yourself to God"?

Or.. "Just take the information you have now and work with it. I am just a man. God is God. Follow what he wants and fear him as those that are lukewarm will be spat out and cast into a lake of fire. Some seeds the Sewer threw got choked by the weeds, some hit rocky ground and didn't germinate but a few of the sewer's seeds hit the fertile ground and they were the only crops to prosper in the end."

[Maritz]

The easiest way to crush these "I believe what mommy and daddy taught me" is the following : What is your source for the Bible ? At least the Sumerians had a source for the deluge-story, the Sumerian tablets, found in the British museum. What is the source of the Christian deluge ? What is the source for the Tower of Babel story or the Generations of Adam, or Adam himself ?


The source of most of their book was copied from the Babylonians which in turn copied from the Sumerians. So the Monotheists copied their God-inspired book from the Polytheists, but they`ll argue to death that this is false and an idea from the devil - which they also copied from the heathens they so despise, the devil being Pagan Pan. What a bunch of clowns ...


I have stopped debating with most Christians, as I said, it`s their way or the highway ... doing so is a waste of energy and will eventually drive you insane

[Br.IanVonTurpie]

How about these ones to throw at them?

*Do you really believe people of all races were spawned from Adam and Eve?

*Do you really believe Jesus was sent to save our sins because God had believed a fallen Angel (who took the form of a serpent) corrupted Adam and Eve?


*What is "Sin"?

Is that a "chip on God's shoulder" because all men are Sinners unless they are reborn? ROMANS 3:23 All men are Spadeers and have come short of God's glory.


*If there is a person who is a crook, a thief, a murderer and really breaks all God's laws and then 5 mins before he dies decides he wants to believe in Christ and be "reborn in Christ". Would he go to heaven  over somebody who :- was kind, helpful, gentle, industrious, truthful and Bold if that said person didn't believe that Jesus died for your sins?

* What were "Nephlim" in Genesis 6?

The Nephilim /ˈnɛfɨˌlɪm/ (Hebrew: נפילים‎) were offspring of the "sons of God" and the "daughters of men" before the Deluge according to Genesis 6:4; the name is also used in reference to giants who inhabited Canaan at the time of the Israelite conquest of Canaan according to Numbers 13:33.

Are there any proof of giants? How could giants breed with Humans?What were these beings? Aliens? Beings with supernatural abilities that interbread with God's creating giving them God like powers?

*What about this passage? Ecclesiastes 3 It says there is a Time to kill and a time for war Isn't this contradictory to the 10 Commandments? And Jesus' 11th commandment "love your neighbour as you love yourself".

Ecclesiastes 3 King James Version (KJV)

3 To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:

2 A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;

3 A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;

4 A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;

5 A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;

6 A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away;

7 A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;

8 A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.

9 What profit hath he that worketh in that wherein he laboureth?

10 I have seen the travail, which God hath given to the sons of men to be exercised in it.

11 He hath made every thing beautiful in his time: also he hath set the world in their heart, so that no man can find out the work that God maketh from the beginning to the end.

12 I know that there is no good in them, but for a man to rejoice, and to do good in his life.

13 And also that every man should eat and drink, and enjoy the good of all his labour, it is the gift of God.

14 I know that, whatsoever God doeth, it shall be for ever: nothing can be put to it, nor any thing taken from it: and God doeth it, that men should fear before him.

15 That which hath been is now; and that which is to be hath already been; and God requireth that which is past.

16 And moreover I saw under the sun the place of judgment, that wickedness was there; and the place of righteousness, that iniquity was there.

17 I said in mine heart, God shall judge the righteous and the wicked: for there is a time there for every purpose and for every work.

18 I said in mine heart concerning the estate of the sons of men, that God might manifest them, and that they might see that they themselves are beasts.

19 For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all is vanity.

20 All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again.

21 Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth?

22 Wherefore I perceive that there is nothing better, than that a man should rejoice in his own works; for that is his portion: for who shall bring him to see what shall be after him?


If this passage is from the old Testament and the commandment of "thou shall not kill" is in the old testament too isn't Leviticus' laws a contradiction?

Leviticus 20:13New International Version (NIV)

13 "'If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.


also if this is what it says, should Homosexuals be allowed to worship in church?