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#61
Quote from: Rev.Masten on Tue 10 Aug 2010
A large and growing group of the so-called "racist" Christinsane are very quickly showing themselves to be a rabid enemy of Creators, who would do anything under the Sun, even to the detriment of the White race to get rid of our racial religion. Anybody that puts a god before their race has their priorities severely mixed up.

Yes, Apollonian is tied in with Lindstadt, who is tied in with Covington, who is not Xian but who has used them, particularly the Identity Xians, to attack and undermine Creativity.

I'm going to start another thread here after making this comment. The subject of that thread will be the necessity to debunk Mr. Covington's phony "history" of PM Klassen and the religion he founded and that we embrace as ours: Creativity.

I won't address that here. Since this discussion is about the scummy Pastor Mad Dog Lindstadt, you might enjoy this old post by him in 2004 that a friend just sent to me. Was Mad Dog a lying hypocrite then, or is he a lying hypocrite now? Read some of the other posts in that thread and in the links at bottom and see that this problem we rational race-thinkers have with these otherworldly Xian fanatics like Mad Dog is nothing new.


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March 3rd, 2004          #29
MartinLindstedt
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Will Williams on Tubby Covington's clones/clowns
Originally Posted by White Will

It's interesting to me to see people who have known each other fairly well for years meet in an interactive forum like this and have to wonder if the person they see posting under his given name is the *REAL* person they know by that name.

The internet is the perfect medium for liars. That's why a professional * disturber and smear artist like Covington, with all his personas -- some, as he is posting here and now under, names recognizable to those he is trying to influence -- THAT's why he loves the 'Net so much. He has never had it so good. He can ply his trade with seeming impunity as the suckers lap his stuff up.

Covingtonistas can't queer this forum and drive sincere people away in confusion and frustration as long as there are responsible watchdogs on here like you, Hadding, who are familiar with his 'm.o.,' who recognize his posts as they appear and who alert others early on so we can add his latest ID to our Ignore lists. I've added all those you mentioned a couple of days ago. Thanks for the tips!

Before the 'Net, the only people "Weird Harold," as he was known by serious racial activists, could possibly influence were the tiny group of Hollywood Nazi losers, maybe 200 at most, who he could reach through his ever-growing list of failed, snail-mailed "newsletters" that cost real money to produce and deliver. Once he discovered the 'Net, however, he saw that, just like with the legitimate, sincere activists that he attacked, he could now effectively reach thousands, tens of thousands, even hundreds of thousands of people -- for FREE!

People who read self-crowned "movement watchdog," Tub o' Lard's malicious accusations of others didn't know what to believe or who to believe as he repeated the same smears over and over with increasing volume (shades of the big lie). The one thing readers of his black propaganda should have noticed is that on Tubbo's e-lists -- unlike here on the VNN free-for-all -- was that none of his contributors, real or imagined, EVER had contact addresses, electronic or otherwise, so that they could be contacted privately. Everything was ALWAYS filtered through or made up by Covington alone. It didn't occur to the most suggestible newbies, or even to some of us with a more discriminating eye, who should have known better, that Covington could be lying about EVERYTHING because they thought he was such an excellent wordsmith. They may have thoroughly enjoyed this failed novelist's ground-breaking article about how feminists control the fiction book industry, or some such non-essential pap. "Overlook his malicious smears," they say. "Get a life, Will -- you're obsessed with Covington."

Everybody needs a hobby, something they enjoy doing. I don't get into raising orchids or building model airplanes. Tub-thumping is how I relax. It's something I do well, something nobody else has the will to do. I'm the best there has ever been at it. And, besides, in the long run it advances our cause to fight and defeat and make an example of such an identifiable and vulnerable enemy. People like winners, you know.
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Presently I am having to deal with Tubby's clones/clowns having their satanic fun at my expense. Here is what someone who has had to deal with Tubby for decades, as opposed to my mere six years says:

Here are a few links to hear what Will Williams, who successfully sued Tubby Covington for libel/slander in the Wake County, North Carolina, District Court, says about Hac on VNN Forum:

http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=954
http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.p...2600#post12600
http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=9509#post9509
http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=9393#post9393
http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=9381#post9381
http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=9216#post9216
http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=8524#post8524
http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=8394#post8394
http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=8354#post8354
http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=8257#post8257
http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=8232#post8232
http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=8057#post8057
http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=7159#post7159
http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=7124#post7124

and this by:


Tom88 the VNN Moderator on Dec. 27, 2003 said:

Billy Bob's not HAC... He's a little out there at times, but he's not HAC. We Banned 10 of HACs usernames. We think we got them all, but I'm sure he'll make new ones. User names such as, JD Grier, John David Grier, Steve Riddle, Katie Hollis, SAMan1932, John E. Reb, Roger Hughes, Lewis Hall, Northwest Republic, and HAC... The one thing that they all had in common besides IP Address is that they were all defending HAC! Go figure...
By the way, he's in Seattle, Washington. He was using a Dial Up connection, so he doesn't have a static IP otherwise I'd post it.

-Tom
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There you have it -- all of Hac's defenders, both clones & clowns, have the same two things in common:

1. They all have the same IP address, hence are Hac clones.
2. They all defend Hac, i.e., theys/its/selfs if clones, or feebs, if clowns.

Now myself and Mr. Williams disagree about Christianity -- Mr. Williams wants no part of it, including Christian Identity. But at least Williams is honest about his dislike and his reasons for that dislike. And, in reading the above list of quotes, Mr. Williams has had fun at my expense in his honest criticism. So be it.

I agree/disagree with Mr. Williams concerning umbrella groups, like Billy Roper's WhiteRevolution. I have no use myself for a non-existant '[j]unity.' However, I do think that the Resistance is a network in which the key players know of each other. This is why I agree with Will Williams that we need to expel the long-time vermin like Harold 'Tubby' Covington and make Hac stay on its own ghetto, if for no other reason to keep wastage of the newbies who are searching for answers to a minimum. Those newbies who hate all Christianity would best be referred to Mr. Williams and Alex Linder. Conversely, those who wish to keep Christianity and want Christianity to be for Whites only, should get in touch with Dual-Seedline Christian Identity pastors like James Wickstrom or Richard Butler.

--Martin Lindstedt
martin@martinlindstedt.org
www.martinlindstedt.org
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/thecovingtoncommission/





#62
"Apollonian" was no friend of Creators like he pretended to be.

Catch our subversive Xian friend Apollonian here, schmoozing with enemies of Creativity, Pastor Mad Dog Lindstadt and Harold Covington:
http://whitenationalist.org/forum/showthread.php?t=512

Apollonian: "For my position has always been Christianity is most perfect, sublime complement to that basic human REASON which God originally gave us by which to contend within this difficult world of ours, suffused as it is with Jew lies and conspiracy, Christianity actually an aesthetic, an artistic dramatization, esp. by way of literature, in exact same style of Homer's Illiad."

Sound familiar?
#63
Xianity is not grounded in reality. David Lane called it an "escape hatch" because to a Xian any Jew can convert to universalist Xianity and be "saved" from persecution.

Creativity is no escape hatch for the Jew. Creativity is an exclusivist creed for Whites as Judaism is exclusivist for Jewry. Xians worship the imaginary Jewish tribal god Yahweh, or Jehovah -- however you want to pronounce it.

Ben Klassen wisely advised Creators to never get bogged down in debating Xians over the relative merits of the Jewish Book of Fables, as he called the Bible. "Dueling Scriptures," he called it. Creators minds are made up; we don't argue using Jewish Scriptures to make our points. Creativity is grounded in reality; in the eternal laws of Nature, using lessons of history, our common sense and logic, not "faith" in Jewish spooks and the promise of a happy, eternal life up in the clouds.

This "debate" is dominating the CA board and should be closed or taken up privately. Creators don't equivocate and move  toward Xian spook worship; they come our way.

Whites who push Xianity do not belong in SPG. Sorry, Apollonian.
#64
Interesting Internet radio with Jimmy Giles of Radio Free Mississippi, linked here:
http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=114472 (First 20-25 minutes.)



Qualified Creators feel free to bump that thread @ VNNF with a civil comment. Metzger needs to be a friend of CA, not tcm.

BTW, Glenn Miller, who started the VNN thread for me, just sent a check for $667 to Matt Hale's mother. Don't believe the smears of Mr. Miller.



Here's an old thread from six and 1/2 years ago where Jimmy Journalist challenged me to a fist fight over the exact same argument we had in his interview with me on 8/2/10: http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=114472 (About 2 minutes long.)

#65
I posted the entire blog comment from above (made 1/8) to a forum run by the same young fellow, "Hunter Wallace" here: http://www.occidentaldissent.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3476&posted=1#post3476

It includes this portion again, and, I believe, anyone reading it who clicks on my name is directed here to https://creativityalliance.com:

That's why I promote the Creativity Alliance these days. At least there we're all starting back at square one — less Matt Hale & Co. — from the same honest premise of Dr. Pierce's that Gliebe squandered so stupidly, with such facility: Whites need their own religion, one that's not Abrahamic, that doesn't worship the Jew's tribal god YHWH. Gliebe couldn't even spell Cosmotheism, much less explain it.
 
 
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