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[Christ, Nietzsche, and Caesar by Oswald Mosley]

i would be interested in your thoughts on the subject of sir oswald Mosley and his British union of Fascists.
do you think he would have been a good member of the church. and would his party and views on a government system be in keeping with the aims of the church ?

It's hard to say, Conna, since Mosley lived in an era prior to the founding of Creativity. He was a great man, no doubt, and his wife, Lady Diana, was just as great. I found this speech by him where he seems to want to see a synthesis between Christianity and Nietzcheism, which, to me, is odd.  He may have evolved in his views on Christianity, as did William Galey Simpson or Revilo P. Oliver: I do not know.

http://www.oswaldmosley.com/christ-nietzsche-and-caesar.htm   
Christ, Nietzsche, and Caesar by Oswald Mosley

Our opponents allege that Fascism has no historic background or philosophy, and it is my task this afternoon to suggest that Fascism has roots deep in history and has been sustained by some of the finest flights of the speculative mind. I am, of course, aware that not much philosophy attaches to our activities in the columns of the daily press. However, I trust you will believe that those great mirrors of the public mind do not always give a very accurate reflection, and while you only read of the more stirring moments of our progress, yet there are other moments, which have some depth in thought and constructive conception.

I believe that Fascist philosophy can be expressed in intelligible terms, and while it makes an entirely novel contribution to the thought of this age, it can yet be shown to derive both its origin and its historic support from the established thought of the past.

In the first instance, I suggest that most philosophies of action are derived from a synthesis of cultural conflicts in a previous period. Where, in an age of culture, of thought, of abstract speculation, you find two great cultures in sharp antithesis, you usually find, in the following age of action, some synthesis in practice between those two sharp antitheses which leads to a practical creed of action.

I would suggest to you that in the last century, the major intellectual struggle arose from the tremendous impact of Nietszchian thought on the Christian civilisation of two thousand years. That impact was only very slowly realised. Its full implications are only today working themselves out. But turn where you will in modern thought, you find the results of that struggle for mastery of the mind and the spirit of man. I am not myself stating the case against Christianity, because I am going to show you how I believe the Nietszchian and the Christian doctrines are capable of synthesis.

On the one hand you find in Fascism, taken from Christianity, taken directly from the Christian conception, the immense vision of service, of self-abnegation, of self-sacrifice in the cause of others, in the cause of the world, in the cause of your country; not the elimination of the individual, so much as the fusion of the individual in something far greater than himself; and you have that basic doctrine of Fascism, service, self-surrender to what the Fascist must conceive to be the greatest cause and the greatest impulse in the world. On the other hand you find taken from Nietszchian thought the virility, the challenge to all existing things which impede the march of mankind, the absolute abnegation of the doctrine of surrender; the firm ability to grapple with and to overcome all obstructions. You have, in fact, the creation of a doctrine of men of vigour and of self-help which is the other outstanding characteristic of Fascism.

At the moment of a great world crisis, a crisis which in the end will inevitably deepen, a movement emerges from a historic background which makes its emergence inevitable, carrying certain traditional attributes derived from a very glorious past, but facing the facts of today, armed with the instruments which only this age has ever conferred upon mankind. By this new and wonderful coincidence of instrument and of event the problems of the age can be overcome, and the future can be assured in a progressive stability. Possibly this is the last great wave of the immortal, the eternally recurring Caesarian movement; but with the aid of science, and with the inspiration of the modern mind, this wave shall carry humanity to the further shore.

Oswald Mosley
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I feel Mosley was soft on the Jew, at least in this speech: http://www.oswaldmosley.com/antisemitism.htm

Creators are group thinkers. Mosley, though Jew-wise, seems to want to judge the individual, not the group.

Dr. William Luther Pierce, of those I've actually had the pleasure of meeting and working with. He liked Ben Klassen and the no nonsense creed of Creativity that PM Klassen formulated for us. History will recognize both Klassen and Pierce as giants of our race during the troubled period of the second half of the 20th century.

Creators will find much they can relate to in Dr. Pierce's autobiographical essay, The Radicalization of an American:
http://www.amfirstbooks.com/IntroPages/ToolBarTopics/Articles/Featured_Authors/pierce,_william/william_pierce_works/william_pierce_NV.Archive.1970-1980/William_L._Pierce_1978_NV_No._61_The_Radicalizing_of_an_American.html?id=1228

[finding this church was like finding an oasis in the middle of the dessert, and i'll be very grateful if i can join your church.]

...I think, by 2050, spain will no longer be a white european country... it'll be hell on earth.

Thats why finding this church was like finding an oasis in the middle of the dessert, and i'll be very grateful if i can join your church.

Your story is familiar to Creators, wherever we live. You are not alone as a White man looking for a meaningful belief system. Our race is spiritually dead. I just saw this group lamentation taking place on a pro-White discussion board, Thoughts on establishing a White Religion: http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=122403 Perhaps that thread will smoke out some new Creators.

Thanks to those who came before us Creativity has the inside track to become the preeminent religion that's exclusively for Whites. It's up to us to see that Creativity remains the best option for our people to embrace.

i have been looking at the teachings of our founder and agree with his teachings. but outside of America.if we in Europe use words like nigger etc it can mean time in prison. we don't have free speech we must understand this.
so here goes the passable cont reversal bit.
should we not re write the teachings etc.. without these words.
in this age and place we need to get through to people who wish to save there family and race.
but after so many years of being brain washed it is hard to use terms like this.
plus it only helps our enemy's keep us out of the main stream where we need to be.
we can keep our beliefs and live the right way and fight for our people. without the terms most people weather we like it or not cant or don't like to say.
i am interested in the reason for keeping these terms in place. so please feel free to let me know what you think. good or bad.

Creators are not compelled to use the word nigger. Use what you are comfortable with around those you are addressing. I use the word nigger freely, but not exclusively. I use Negro sometimes, or Black. When speaking to a Black nationalist, why would I use such a term that's going to shut down the conversation?
We shouldn't use words just for shock value when we want to get our get our points across.

Construct your own term, like African-Bulgarian, to show how ridiculously absurd is the Politically Correct term African-American that American sheep are instructed to use by the word police.

I grew up hearing my mother say "nigruh." I like using that sometimes, especially around niggers.

Creativity Alliance won't be tampering with the Holy books, changing words to satisfy tender sensibilities.

Ah! A true European Hispanic joins the fray. Welcome Jacques!

Our "hispanics" here in the U.S. are mostly unassimilable little brown mestizo invaders who style themselves "reconquistadors."