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#181
rrahowa, sshafer!

wwelcome!
#182

I'm interested in secessionist movements, and will henceforth push hard for one in Southern Appalachia for Whites ONLY!  Times have ripened for Whites to summarily withdraw their consent to be governed by racial aliens and secede en masse to our own living space. WV is in this region that's made up primarily of parts of eight southern states, but reaches up into western PA and a few others, like southern Ohio, etc. We Southern Appalachians know who we are by looking in one anothers' faces. There are many issues that will unite Whites in Southern Appalachia, including the double standard used in determining so-called "environmental racism" against our people.

This White man's letter caught my eye today:

http://thesmallaxe.wordpress.com/2009/02/21/facing-down-terrorism-in-appalachia/

    Dear Mr. President,

    As I write this letter, I brace myself for another round of nerve-wracking explosives being detonated above my home in the mountains of West Virginia. Outside my door, pulverized rock dust, laden with diesel fuel and ammonium nitrate explosives hovers in the air, along with the residual of heavy metals that once lay dormant underground.

    The mountain above me, once a thriving forest, has been blasted into a pile of rock and mud rubble. Two years ago, it was covered with rich black topsoil and abounded with hardwood trees, rhododendrons, ferns and flowers. The understory thrived with herbs such as ginseng, black cohosh, yellow root and many other medicinal plants. Black bears, deer, wild turkey, hawks, owls and thousands of [other] birds lived here. The mountain contained sparkling streams teeming with aquatic life and fish.

    Now it is all gone. It is all dead. I live at the bottom of a mountain-top-removal coal-mining operation in the Peachtree community.

    Mr. President Obama, I am writing you because we have simply run out of options. Last week, the 4th U.S. Circuit Court in Richmond, Va., overturned a federal court ruling for greater environmental restrictions on mountaintop-removal permits. Dozens of permits now stand to be rushed through. As you know, in December, the EPA under George W. Bush allowed an 11th-hour change to the stream buffer zone rule, further unleashing the coal companies to do as they please.

    During your presidential campaign, you declared: "We have to find more environmentally sound ways of mining coal than simply blowing the tops off mountains."

    That time is now. Or never.

    Every day, more than 3 million pounds of explosives are detonated in our state to remove our mountains and expose the thin seams of coal. Over 470 mountains in Appalachia have been destroyed in this process, the coal scooped up and hauled away to be burned at coal-fired power plants across our country and abroad. This includes the Potomac River Plant, which generates the electricity for the White House.

    Mountaintop removal is the dirty secret in our nation's energy supply. If coal can't be mined clean, it can't be called clean. Here, at the point of extraction, coal passes through a preparation plant that manages to remove some, but not all, of the metals and toxins. Those separated impurities are stored in mammoth toxic sludge dams above our communities throughout Appalachia.

    There are three sludge dams within 10 miles of my home. Coal companies are now blasting directly above and next to a dam above my home that contains over 2 billion gallons of toxic waste. That is the same seeping dam that hovers just 400 yards above the Marsh Fork Elementary School. As you know, coal sludge dams have failed before, and lives have been lost.

    My family and I, like many American citizens in Appalachia, are living in a state of terror. Like sitting ducks waiting to be buried in an avalanche of mountain waste, or crushed by a falling boulder, we are trapped in a war zone within our own country.

    In 1968, I served my country in Vietnam as part of the 1st Battalion 12th Marines, 3rd Marine Division. As you know, Appalachians have never failed to serve our country; our mountain riflemen stood with George Washington at the surrender of the British in Yorktown. West Virginia provided more per capita soldiers for the Union during the Civil War than any other state; we have given our blood for every war since.

    We have also given our blood for the burden of coal in these mountains. My uncle died in the underground mines at the age of 17; another uncle was paralyzed from an accident. My dad worked in an underground mine. Many in my family have suffered from black-lung disease.

    These mountains are our home. My family roots are deep in these mountains. We homesteaded this area in the 1820s. This is where I was born. This is where I will die.

    On Jan. 15, 1972, U.S. Sen. John D. Rockefeller made a speech at Morris Harvey College. He declared: "The government has turned its back on the many West Virginians who have borne out of their property and out of their pocketbook the destructive impact of strip-mining. We hear that the governor once claimed to have wept as he flew over the strip mine devastation of our state. Now it's the people who weep."

    Our state government has turned its back on us in 2009.

    Peachtree is but one of hundreds of Appalachian communities that are being bombed. Our property has been devalued to worthlessness. Our neighbors put their kids to bed at night with the fear of being crushed or swept away in toxic sludge. And the outside coal industries continue their criminal activity through misleading and false ads.

    Mr. President, when I heard you talk during your campaign stops, it made me feel like there was hope for Peachtree and the Coal River Valley of West Virginia. Hope for me and my family.

    Abraham Lincoln wrote that we cannot escape history: "The fiery trial through which we pass, will light us down, in honor or dishonor, to the latest generation."

    I beg you to re-light our flame of hope and honor and immediately stop the coal companies from blasting so near our homes and endangering our lives. As you have said, we must find another way than blowing off the tops of our mountains. We must end mountaintop removal.

    I also ask you to please put an end to these dangerous toxic-sludge dams.

    With utmost respect, yours truly,

    Bo Webb
    Naoma, W.V.
    ---

There is a "comments" section at this linked article. I posted the following remark there, along with a link to www.creatorforum.net

Doesn't this story qualify Bo Webb by all rights as a victim of environmental racism? Or does Bo's being White disqualify him? We're told that Whites will be an ethnic minority in the U.S. in 2042. Will Bo's grandchildren and great-grandchildren be eligible for victim status then?

Wikipedia: Environmental racism refers to intentional or unintentional racial discrimination in the enforcement of environmental rules and regulations, the intentional or unintentional targeting of minority communities for the siting of polluting industries... The term was coined and defined by the former Reverend Dr. [and arson terrorist] Benjamin F. Chavis, Jr.
#183
What's with this blog I just stumbled onto: http://whiteminority.wordpress.com/author/stopbadscience/page/2/

There's a good collection of articles on changing racial demographics, with relevance for Creators, but it appears to be run by an Indian (dothead, not Pahoo).  :-\

The non-White world seems to think it's a fait accomplis that the White race is not going to be around much longer, and that there is nothing that Whites can do to reverse this trend toward extinction of Nature's Finest creation: White people. These non-White speculators must not be aware of Creativity nor the resolve of its adherents to pee on their non-White parade

I got hold of a copy of the January/February 2009 issue of Atlantic monthly while waiting my turn in the dentist's office the other day. It's the one with Obongo's mug on the cover. The feature article: The End of White America? by some Chinaman. This should be required reading for Creators in order to see just how far this perception has taken hold.

Enjoy...

The Election of Barack Obama is just the most startling manifestation of a larger trend: the gradual erosion of "whiteness" as the touchstone of what it means to be American. If the end of white America is a cultural and demographic inevitability, what will the new mainstream look like—and how will white Americans fit into it? What will it mean to be white when whiteness is no longer the norm? And will a post-white America be less racially divided—or more so?

by Hua Hsu
The End of White America?


"Civilization's going to pieces," he remarks. He is in polite company, gathered with friends around a bottle of wine in the late-afternoon sun, chatting and gossiping. "I've gotten to be a terrible pessimist about things. Have you read The Rise of the Colored Empires by this man Goddard?" They hadn't. "Well, it's a fine book, and everybody ought to read it. The idea is if we don't look out the white race will be—will be utterly submerged. It's all scientific stuff; it's been proved."

He is Tom Buchanan, a character in F. Scott Fitzgerald's The Great Gatsby, a book that nearly everyone who passes through the American education system is compelled to read at least once. Although Gatsby doesn't gloss as a book on racial anxiety—it's too busy exploring a different set of anxieties entirely—Buchanan was hardly alone in feeling besieged. The book by "this man Goddard" had a real-world analogue: Lothrop Stoddard's The Rising Tide of Color Against White World-Supremacy, published in 1920, five years before Gatsby. Nine decades later, Stoddard's polemic remains oddly engrossing. He refers to World War I as the "White Civil War" and laments the "cycle of ruin" that may result if the "white world" continues its infighting. The book features a series of foldout maps depicting the distribution of "color" throughout the world and warns, "Colored migration is a universal peril, menacing every part of the white world."

As briefs for racial supremacy go, The Rising Tide of Color is eerily serene. Its tone is scholarly and gentlemanly, its hatred rationalized and, in Buchanan's term, "scientific." And the book was hardly a fringe phenomenon. It was published by Scribner, also Fitzgerald's publisher, and Stoddard, who received a doctorate in history from Harvard, was a member of many professional academic associations. It was precisely the kind of book that a 1920s man of Buchanan's profile—wealthy, Ivy League–educated, at once pretentious and intellectually insecure—might have been expected to bring up in casual conversation.

As white men of comfort and privilege living in an age of limited social mobility, of course, Stoddard and the Buchanans in his audience had nothing literal to fear. Their sense of dread hovered somewhere above the concerns of everyday life. It was linked less to any immediate danger to their class's political and cultural power than to the perceived fraying of the fixed, monolithic identity of whiteness that sewed together the fortunes of the fair-skinned.

From the hysteria over Eastern European immigration to the vibrant cultural miscegenation of the Harlem Renaissance, it is easy to see how this imagined worldwide white kinship might have seemed imperiled in the 1920s. There's no better example of the era's insecurities than the 1923 Supreme Court case United States v. Bhagat Singh Thind, in which an Indian American veteran of World War I sought to become a naturalized citizen by proving that he was Caucasian. The Court considered new anthropological studies that expanded the definition of the Caucasian race to include Indians, and the justices even agreed that traces of "Aryan blood" coursed through Thind's body. But these technicalities availed him little. The Court determined that Thind was not white "in accordance with the understanding of the common man" and therefore could be excluded from the "statutory category" of whiteness. Put another way: Thind was white, in that he was Caucasian and even Aryan. But he was not white in the way Stoddard or Buchanan were white.

The '20s debate over the definition of whiteness—a legal category? a commonsense understanding? a worldwide civilization?—took place in a society gripped by an acute sense of racial paranoia, and it is easy to regard these episodes as evidence of how far we have come. But consider that these anxieties surfaced when whiteness was synonymous with the American mainstream, when threats to its status were largely imaginary. What happens once this is no longer the case—when the fears of Lothrop Stoddard and Tom Buchanan are realized, and white people actually become an American minority?

Whether you describe it as the dawning of a post-racial age or just the end of white America, we're approaching a profound demographic tipping point. According to an August 2008 report by the U.S. Census Bureau, those groups currently categorized as racial minorities—blacks and Hispanics, East Asians and South Asians—will account for a majority of the U.S. population by the year 2042. Among Americans under the age of 18, this shift is projected to take place in 2023, which means that every child born in the United States from here on out will belong to the first post-white generation.

Obviously, steadily ascending rates of interracial marriage complicate this picture, pointing toward what Michael Lind has described as the "beiging" of America. And it's possible that "beige Americans" will self-identify as "white" in sufficient numbers to push the tipping point further into the future than the Census Bureau projects. But even if they do, whiteness will be a label adopted out of convenience and even indifference, rather than aspiration and necessity. For an earlier generation of minorities and immigrants, to be recognized as a "white American," whether you were an Italian or a Pole or a Hungarian, was to enter the mainstream of American life; to be recognized as something else, as the Thind case suggests, was to be permanently excluded. As Bill Imada, head of the IW Group, a prominent Asian American communications and marketing company, puts it: "I think in the 1920s, 1930s, and 1940s, [for] anyone who immigrated, the aspiration was to blend in and be as American as possible so that white America wouldn't be intimidated by them. They wanted to imitate white America as much as possible: learn English, go to church, go to the same schools."

Today, the picture is far more complex. To take the most obvious example, whiteness is no longer a precondition for entry into the highest levels of public office. The son of Indian immigrants doesn't have to become "white" in order to be elected governor of Louisiana. A half-Kenyan, half-Kansan politician can self-identify as black and be elected president of the United States.

As a purely demographic matter, then, the "white America" that Lothrop Stoddard believed in so fervently may cease to exist in 2040, 2050, or 2060, or later still. But where the culture is concerned, it's already all but finished. Instead of the long-standing model of assimilation toward a common center, the culture is being remade in the image of white America's multiethnic, multicolored heirs.

For some, the disappearance of this centrifugal core heralds a future rich with promise. In 1998, President Bill Clinton, in a now-famous address to students at Portland State University, remarked:

    Today, largely because of immigration, there is no majority race in Hawaii or Houston or New York City. Within five years, there will be no majority race in our largest state, California. In a little more than 50 years, there will be no majority race in the United States. No other nation in history has gone through demographic change of this magnitude in so short a time ... [These immigrants] are energizing our culture and broadening our vision of the world. They are renewing our most basic values and reminding us all of what it truly means to be American.

Not everyone was so enthused. Clinton's remarks caught the attention of another anxious Buchanan—Pat Buchanan, the conservative thinker. Revisiting the president's speech in his 2001 book, The Death of the West, Buchanan wrote: "Mr. Clinton assured us that it will be a better America when we are all minorities and realize true 'diversity.' Well, those students [at Portland State] are going to find out, for they will spend their golden years in a Third World America."

Read the rest here: http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200901/end-of-whiteness
#184
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/10/chas-freeman-out-intel-ch_n_173645.html

The comment section following this article in the left-wing Huffington Post about the Jewing of Charles Freeman should encourage long-suffering Jew-fighters who are usually labelled "anti-Semites" for legitimate criticism of Jewish perfidy.

Please, every Creator read this article, and see that we have common ground with truth-seeking Leftists.

Here's just one comment by "veracity" that names the Jew like a good Creator would:
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Once Again, Rahm Emanuel, Chuck Schumer, Dianne Feinstein, & Israel Lobby _OWN_ the Obama administration.

THIS IS NOT "CHANGE" !!

Just as MICHAEL CHERTOFF - an open, avowed, & unrepentent AIPAC Likudnik - was the UnitedStates' SECRETARY OF HOMELAND SECURITY.

Not only did Chertoff head DHS, the organization that would (in national crisis) run America's modern CONCENTRATION CAMPS (as Japanese were intered in WWII), but Mr. Chefoff was also co-AUTHOR of the (despicable) un.P.A.T.R.I.O.T. Act - the one that passed ONLY after TWO ANTHRAX LETTERS were mailed to THE TWO SENATORS most able to obstruct that act, then Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle and then (and current) Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy.
(A law passed ONLY when the deadly and still unresolved ANTRHAX TERROR ATTACKS on Senator Leahy's and Daschle's office WIPED OUT their "obstruction" to the unPATRIOT Act).

Worst of all, AS IF _subordinating_ America's ENTIRE FOREIGN POLICY to the ancient hatreds of religious and tribal passions of the Mideast isn't bad enough, President Obama's ENTIRE _ECONOMIC_ TEAM is also defined by... THEIR GOLDMAN-SACHS "investment banking" roots!

While TreasurySecretary Geithner may not have _DIRECTLY_ worked for GoldmanSachs, his "job" at The USfedReserveBankNY was most certainly to keep his mentors - Robert Rubin & Lawrence Summers - happy. Which is to say - "GEITHNER'S JOB at the FedNY WAS TO KEEP GOLDMAN-SACHS & WALL St. HAPPY.

BOTH America's ECONOMIC, and FOREIGN POLICY, AND entire "NATIONAL SECURITY" apparatus are now ENTIRELY OWNED SUBSIDIARIES of the ISRAEL Lobby !
#185
It's great to see a leader on our side address not just the " Two C's" (Communism and Capitalism), brought to us by Jewry, but the Third "C" -- Jew-spawned Christianity. Our Church featured just such a piece entitled The Three Cs, in our monthly tabloid Racial Loyalty 20 years ago.

Commander Koehl's New Order is one group that is compatible with Creativity and worth some bridge-building.

He gives good arguments in the following letter to Chris that every Creator should be armed with.
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Dear Chris,

Thank you for your patience in awaiting this much-delayed response.

There are essentially two issues here.  One is about a constitutional
republic and how this relates to National Socialism. The other is about
the religion of the Jews and those who follow the Judaic tradition.

Concerning the US Constitution, it has become, for all intents and
purposes, nothing more than a meaningless scrap of paper, to which
lip service is paid but which in practice is ignored by those who hold
power, to the extent that it does not serve their criminal purposes.

The biggest flaw in the original document is that it focused on the
Individual, rather than the Race.  It failed to spell out explicitly the
white, European character of the newly formed United States.  That
singular omission has had the most dire and tragic consequences.
It led up to the Civil War and to all subsequent events in this country.

Had that conflict gone another way, perhaps this defect might have
been corrected and the country could have taken a different direction.
But we know that that was not the case.

There was, of course, the original Ku Klux Klan after the war and
the turning-back of Reconstruction.  But without a comprehensive,
Race-based worldview like National Socialism, it was unable to sustain
white rule in the South up to the present time.

The sad fact is that, while America was undeniably still a white nation
even up to the Second World War, by 1945 it had crossed the point
of no return.  By going to war against its white brothers in Germany,
it shot itself in the foot.  All of which is particularly tragic, since
Adolf Hitler was fighting for the very same racial values which most
Americans at the time—including, especially, Southerners—believed in.

That's why I find it is rather ironic that so many of the biggest
flagwaving, glory-Hallelujah, Yankee Doodle yahoos are to be found
today in the American South.  Apparently, they've forgotten completely
the meaning of the word "scalawag."  Is it any wonder, then, that this
part of the country is now seeing more and more black mayors and local
officials and experiencing another invasion, this time from south of the
border?

Not only Southerners, but all American whites—and all whites
everywhere in the world—lost when they decided to go to war against
Hitler and his people.  Adolf Hitler was fighting for THEM, and they
didn't even realize it!

But you've got to see all this as part of a bigger picture, Chris.
Adolf Hitler was not just another ordinary man.  He was someone who
comes into the world but once in thousands of years to bring mankind
a special message.  Hitler's message and mission, in particular, was
to remind Aryankind of those Laws of Nature, which are the eternal
Laws of Life.

So what did we do?  We rejected this message and the one who brought
it.  That's why we're in the predicament in which we now find ourselves.
All the man-made ills in our world today can be traced directly back to
that act of rejection.  It's all a simple matter of cause and effect.

Just as things might have been a bit different if the South had won the
American civil war, even more so would things have been different for
white people everywhere had Germany and her allies emerged victorious
from World War II.

A few generations back, America—including the American South—had
the choice of joining with Hitler in fighting for a better world, or waging
war against him.  Unfortunately, we chose to go to war against him—
with all the dire consequences we are experiencing today.

                                        *    *    *

Now then, understand that as National Socialists we believe neither
in Capitalism nor Communism.  Both Communism and Capitalism have
failed.  If you need any proof in the case of the latter, all you have
to do is look and see what is happening with the stock market and
the loss of jobs these days.  As the name suggests, Capitalism is
based on Money and Capital—in other words, on pure Materialism.
Its political expression is called—Liberal Democracy.

Its ideological twin is Communism, based on something called "Dialectical
Materialism."  What it does is simply take the liberal-democratic notion
that "all men are created equal" and carry it to its logical absurdity.

Both Communism and Capitalism represent forms of economic
materialism, and as such they lack a spiritual foundation.  For each,
man is nothing more than an economic cipher.

By contrast, National Socialism of based on the principle of Race,
and more specifically, on that of racial idealism.  We see man as
a racial Person.  And here it is important to forget about all those
labels tossed around loosely by moss-back reactionaries, and not
behave in knee-jerk fashion.

When we use the word "national," we are talking about our racial
nation.  And when we talk about "social," we are referring to a white,
Aryan society, as well as to the social responsibility and social justice
that goes along with it.  The two words go together. You cannot have
one without the other.  As such, these terms join to form one single
concept—NATIONAL SOCIALISM.

As National Socialists we believe in the common good before selfish
interest.  We believe that the Whole is always greater than any of its
individual parts.  We reject Liberal Democracy and its fallacious notion
of the Individual standing apart from his people—his FOLK.

By the same token, we recognize the value of the Person.  By this
we mean the individual integrated within the greater Whole, as part
of his Folk in true racial communion and as someone given every
opportunity to develop his or her highest potential.  Only then does
the individual life achieve real meaning, purpose and value.

Our Leader has taught us that this Person, whatever his or her
station in life, is to be honored and respected as a valued member
of the Community of the Folk—and not regarded as a disposable
political-economic unit—as is the crass, cavalier attitude under both
Communism and Liberal Capitalism.

But none of this can work under an Obama administration—or under
any other regime in a decadent, multiracial society.  It can only work
within the framework of a racial community, where everyone is on
the same wave-length.

This condition was met in Germany where, under Hitler, a successful
Aryan society was created.  It was so successful, in fact, that people
everywhere were beginning to look upon it as a model for their own
countries.

Is it any wonder, then, that those very Communist and Capitalist
states, which had failed, were worried and that they should decide
to join forces in a world war against National Socialist Germany?
What we see here is that when the chips were really down and real
interests were at stake, both Jewish-sponsored Capitalism and
Jewish-sponsored Communism came together to demonstrate their
true, incestuous affinity.

                                        *    *    *

As to our spiritual outlook, understand that we are Aryans—
not Semites, Hebrews, Israelites, Khazars, or whatever.  Our ancient
ancestors did not come from the Middle East.  They came from their
primordial home in Europe, where they had always lived since the
last Ice Age.

That's why we refuse to worship any alien tribal god created by
the Jews in their image.  And that's why we reject all Jewish holy
books, traditions and history, not to mention a Jewish ethnic identity.

A lot of good Christians say we should read the Jewish bible to
discover our "true" identity.  Well, that's just we have done—every
single word of it.  What we find is something so gross and repulsive
that we, like our Leader, want no part of it—including all those old,
familiar tales about "persecution" and "holocausting," a refrain that
hasn't changed a bit in 4,000 years!

If you want an X-rated manual for lying, deceit, cunning, conniving,
swindling, double-dealing, dishonesty, trickery, treachery, fakery,
anti-goy hate, nastiness, cruelty, sadism, pornography, pimping,
perversion and the performance of certain bodily functions, you
need look no further than these 66 texts (upon which that other
great Jewish "holy book," the Talmud, is merely commentary) for
instruction.

Its leading characters reveal themselves as so dishonorable and
disgusting, that no decent Aryan parent would ever knowingly want
them to serve as role models for their children. Unfortunately, many
of them have not read their Jewish bible closely enough!

Our Aryan sensibility is offended by the depravity and perversity
we find in this moral cesspool.  As National Socialists, we look
elsewhere for spiritual direction and for those moral values—
such as loyalty, honor, courage, truthfulness and love of one's
kinsmen and the greater natural order—which are more compatible
with our racial soul.

I trust, Chris, that this will give you a little better picture of where
we're coming from and what we stand for.

All best wishes.  I remain—

In His service,

M. Koehl


--------------------------------------------------
From:
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 2:25 AM
To: "New Order" <neworder@execpc.com>
Subject: Constitutional Republic

> Dear Mr. Koehl,
>                               I have read and re-read all the  information
> you have sent me and I have thought about everything a lot.  I must
> confess, I am a big fan of what the founding fathers tried to do for us
> by establishing a Constitutional Republic, that was then destroyed
> by Lincoln and his Marxist buddies.
>
> I am a big fan of Jefferson Davis, Robert E Lee and Stonewall Jackson
> for trying to save, defend and preserve the Constitutional Republic that
> was
> established for us by these same founding fathers.
>
> I understand that Hitler had to take some drastic measures to deal with
> the threat from within to save Germany from it's enemy, but I'm concerned
> on how National Socialism relates to a Constitutional Republic.  I don't
> like Socialism, Fascism, Communism, Marxism, Zionism, Talmudic,
> Rabbinic Judaism, any kind of coercion, intimidation, slavery, tyranny in
> any shape or form etc. etc. etc.
>
> I agree 1000% that Talmudic, Rabbinical Judaism is a grave threat
> to the survival of the human race and that it is NOT the ancient Israelite
> religion of Yahweh, but the invention and fantasies of demented &
> diseased minds.  I feel that it is the duty of all mankind to eradicate this
> vile filth from the earth before it eradicates mankind.
>
> Especially those calling themselves Jews would do well to reject such
> nonsense and return to the religion of the Old Testament and stop
> harassing & persecuting the "goyim, or gentiles" as they call us.  So the
> term, National "Socialism"  makes me nervous, if you know what I mean.
>
> I'm a member of the League of the South and a member of the Confederate
> Society of America and Confederate Alliance with the goal of freeing the
> Southland from the tyranny of  the District of Corruption in Washington
> and
> their Zionist masters.  I am also German and I am sick and tired of people
> being harassed and persecuted for questioning the lie of the holocaust,
> or having people wallowing in guilt and shame because they believe the
> lies of the Pharisees and won't get off their butts to find out the truth!
>
> So could you fill me in on this very important matter?
>
> Thank You!!!
>                          Chris
 
 
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