Got this today from attorney Edgar Steele (www.NickelRant.com). Read and consider before traveling to a so-called White nation like Germany or Great Britain:
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What is both interesting and significant about this case (below) is that it demonstrates that Britain now is willing to prosecute thought crimes merely because it has personal jurisdiction over the perps. Here, the "crime" (not a crime in America) was committed solely in America, on American web sites, therefore Britain lacked subject matter jurisdiction.
Query whether you or I, on vacation in London, could be arrested and prosecuted by Britain for what we say on our American web sites? After all, our presence in Britain confers the necessary personal jurisdiction.
Recently, a British court ordered Australian Fredrick Toben, then in England for something or other, released on a similar charge after another country (Germany, I think) got him arrested there and then sought his extradition for web thought crimes. The only differences: Britain didn't initiate the charge and Toben is not a British citizen. However, Britain did have personal jurisdiction over Toben at the time.
Both Germany and Israel now claim the right to prosecute anybody for crimes committed anywhere violating their "don't say things that hurt Jew feelings" statutes (truth is not a defense), needing only to get their hands on perps (overflying one of those countries on an international flight would be enough, incidentally, if they then forced your plane to land in it, as has been done in many countries for more serious crimes).
What constitutes "inciting racial hatred?" Anything the thought police claim, that's what. This email you are reading would be enough for many of these fascist pricks. And they are trying to implement this in America right now, folks. And further down the rabbit hole we plunge.
So ... what do we do about it? Keep a lower profile? Perhaps. But that is the path to total servility, don't forget.
For those who have seen "V for Vendetta," recall the final scenes in which the entire city's population emerged into the streets illegally wearing identical masks in an overwhelming show of civil disobedience that brought down the government. Similarly, it may well be time for everybody in America to begin committing thought crimes on the Internet. If we do not hang together, we will hang separately.
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British bloggers jailed for "inciting racial hatred"
July 13th, 2009
Pair jailed for web race crimes
The men's bid for asylum was thrown out by a judge
Two men have been jailed after becoming the first in the UK to be convicted of inciting racial hatred via a foreign website. Simon Sheppard, 51, of Selby in North Yorkshire, received four years and 10 months, and Stephen Whittle, 42, of Preston, two years and four months.
The men printed leaflets and controlled US websites featuring racist material. They fled to the US after being convicted at Leeds Crown Court last year, but failed in an asylum bid. Sheppard, of Brook Street, Selby, was found guilty of 11 offences and Whittle, of Avenham Lane, Preston, was found guilty of five offences at a trial in July last year.
Such offences as these have, by their very nature, the potential to cause grave social harm
- Judge Rodney Grant
The neo-Nazi asylum seekers
Sheppard was convicted of a further five charges in January 2009.
However, before the jury in the first trial could return verdicts, both men fled to Los Angeles International airport and attempted to claim political asylum.
Their bid was thrown out by a US immigration judge.
The men were charged with publishing and distributing racially inflammatory material, and possessing racially inflammatory material with a view to distribution.
Leeds Crown Court was told Whittle wrote offensive articles that were then published on the internet by Sheppard.
The published material included images of murdered Jews alongside cartoons and articles ridiculing ethnic groups.
Judge Rodney Grant told the men their material was "abusive and insulting" and had the potential to cause "grave social harm".
He added: "Such offences as these have, by their very nature, the potential to cause grave social harm, particularly in a society such as ours which has, for a number of years now, been multi-racial.
'Groundbreaking case'
"These are serious offences. I can say without any hesitation that I have rarely seen, or had to read or consider, material which is so abusive and insulting... towards racial groups within our own society."
The investigation into Sheppard began when a complaint about a leaflet, called "Tales of the Holohoax", was reported to police in 2004 after it was pushed through the door of a synagogue in Blackpool.
It was traced back to a post office box in Hull registered to Sheppard.
Humberside Police later found a website featuring racially inflammatory material.
The pair thought that they could circumvent English law because their website was hosted in the US.
That, said Adil Khan, head of diversity and community cohesion at Humberside Police, makes their conviction a first.
"This case is groundbreaking," he said.
"The fact is now that we've been able to demonstrate that you've got nowhere to hide; people have been hiding on [sic] the fact that this server was in the US.
"Inciting racial hatred is a crime and one which seems to occur too regularly. This kind of material will not be tolerated as this lengthy investigation shows."
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What is both interesting and significant about this case (below) is that it demonstrates that Britain now is willing to prosecute thought crimes merely because it has personal jurisdiction over the perps. Here, the "crime" (not a crime in America) was committed solely in America, on American web sites, therefore Britain lacked subject matter jurisdiction.
Query whether you or I, on vacation in London, could be arrested and prosecuted by Britain for what we say on our American web sites? After all, our presence in Britain confers the necessary personal jurisdiction.
Recently, a British court ordered Australian Fredrick Toben, then in England for something or other, released on a similar charge after another country (Germany, I think) got him arrested there and then sought his extradition for web thought crimes. The only differences: Britain didn't initiate the charge and Toben is not a British citizen. However, Britain did have personal jurisdiction over Toben at the time.
Both Germany and Israel now claim the right to prosecute anybody for crimes committed anywhere violating their "don't say things that hurt Jew feelings" statutes (truth is not a defense), needing only to get their hands on perps (overflying one of those countries on an international flight would be enough, incidentally, if they then forced your plane to land in it, as has been done in many countries for more serious crimes).
What constitutes "inciting racial hatred?" Anything the thought police claim, that's what. This email you are reading would be enough for many of these fascist pricks. And they are trying to implement this in America right now, folks. And further down the rabbit hole we plunge.
So ... what do we do about it? Keep a lower profile? Perhaps. But that is the path to total servility, don't forget.
For those who have seen "V for Vendetta," recall the final scenes in which the entire city's population emerged into the streets illegally wearing identical masks in an overwhelming show of civil disobedience that brought down the government. Similarly, it may well be time for everybody in America to begin committing thought crimes on the Internet. If we do not hang together, we will hang separately.
-ed
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British bloggers jailed for "inciting racial hatred"
July 13th, 2009
Pair jailed for web race crimes
The men's bid for asylum was thrown out by a judge
Two men have been jailed after becoming the first in the UK to be convicted of inciting racial hatred via a foreign website. Simon Sheppard, 51, of Selby in North Yorkshire, received four years and 10 months, and Stephen Whittle, 42, of Preston, two years and four months.
The men printed leaflets and controlled US websites featuring racist material. They fled to the US after being convicted at Leeds Crown Court last year, but failed in an asylum bid. Sheppard, of Brook Street, Selby, was found guilty of 11 offences and Whittle, of Avenham Lane, Preston, was found guilty of five offences at a trial in July last year.
Such offences as these have, by their very nature, the potential to cause grave social harm
- Judge Rodney Grant
The neo-Nazi asylum seekers
Sheppard was convicted of a further five charges in January 2009.
However, before the jury in the first trial could return verdicts, both men fled to Los Angeles International airport and attempted to claim political asylum.
Their bid was thrown out by a US immigration judge.
The men were charged with publishing and distributing racially inflammatory material, and possessing racially inflammatory material with a view to distribution.
Leeds Crown Court was told Whittle wrote offensive articles that were then published on the internet by Sheppard.
The published material included images of murdered Jews alongside cartoons and articles ridiculing ethnic groups.
Judge Rodney Grant told the men their material was "abusive and insulting" and had the potential to cause "grave social harm".
He added: "Such offences as these have, by their very nature, the potential to cause grave social harm, particularly in a society such as ours which has, for a number of years now, been multi-racial.
'Groundbreaking case'
"These are serious offences. I can say without any hesitation that I have rarely seen, or had to read or consider, material which is so abusive and insulting... towards racial groups within our own society."
The investigation into Sheppard began when a complaint about a leaflet, called "Tales of the Holohoax", was reported to police in 2004 after it was pushed through the door of a synagogue in Blackpool.
It was traced back to a post office box in Hull registered to Sheppard.
Humberside Police later found a website featuring racially inflammatory material.
The pair thought that they could circumvent English law because their website was hosted in the US.
That, said Adil Khan, head of diversity and community cohesion at Humberside Police, makes their conviction a first.
"This case is groundbreaking," he said.
"The fact is now that we've been able to demonstrate that you've got nowhere to hide; people have been hiding on [sic] the fact that this server was in the US.
"Inciting racial hatred is a crime and one which seems to occur too regularly. This kind of material will not be tolerated as this lengthy investigation shows."
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