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[I promote the Creativity Alliance these days. At least there we're all starting back at square one — less Matt Hale & Co. — from the same honest premise of Dr. Pierce's that Gliebe squandered so stupidly, with such facility: Whites need their own religion, one that's not Abrahamic, that doesn't worship the Jew's tribal god YHWH. Gliebe couldn't even spell Cosmotheism, much less explain it.]

I've made four or five posts to the OccidentalDissent discussion board with this CA site linked from my name. These folks consider themselves intellectuals and agree with Creators on race and the JQ, but are all over the board on the religion issue, as is usual among so many in that intellectually dishonest crowd. We'll see if anyone from OD visits here as a result.

http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2010/01/07/white-power-usa/#comment-31695 -- White Power USA (the need for WLP's vanguard approach)

#8 Will Williams

Hunter Wallace [OD Administrator]:
"I'm starting to dislike the term "vanguardists." I think "cultists" is a more accurate description of these people. They like to form small cults and wait for a millenarian collapse of American society. At this point, the "vanguard" (or the divine elect) will mysteriously rise to power."

WW:
I've seen a lot of talk about self-styled "vanguardists" and the sorry lot they are. Dr. Pierce seems to be tarred with this vanguard "cult" tag, for one, among all kinds of other off-the-wall smears of him by those who didn't grasp what he was building, or did and saw him as "competition."

Dr. Pierce, unlike all those "vanguardists" who have claimed to be successor groups to his National Alliance, actually understood the vanguard approach and had been operating under it with careful deliberation for at least 25 years when he described it thusly at the first National Alliance Convention in September, 1978:

"Our task is not to persuade a numerical majority of the American population that we are right but rather to build the numerical minority of those whose values coincide with ours into a majority of will and determination."

Simple, huh? From those attracted to the National Alliance's values, its goals and program, many joined as members. From those with the right stuff were chosen the few considered to be the vanguard, that core of trusted, dedicated cadre, staff and other contributors. It was around those trusted members mainly that Pierce was building that mass movement of will and determination.

We didn't worry so much about infiltrators; they come with the territory. The more they come at us, the more they repress us and smear us, the better. Our attitude, operating from a righteous position of strength at all times as men of our race, was "convert 'em or expose 'em."

Of course one of the first things Gliebe & Co. did after hijacking the Alliance, running off Dr. Pierce's Board of Directors and staff of 15 people at the National Office, was to go "big tent" with his "new" NA. He and Shawn Walker removed pages 46-50 from the NA Membership Handbook — the part establishing that Xianity is an ideology opposed to that of the National Alliance. There went Dr. Pierce's vanguard approach with just that one ill-advised expedient blunder. Gliebe's new, Xian-friendly, "broader outreach" backfired on him. He purposefully drove away many of us who were attracted to Dr. Pierce's honest, hard line that made clear that it's not only important what an aspiring comrade's position is on race and the JQ, but, let us say, he should agree on the "spiritual aspect" of our struggle as well. Dr. Pierce's telling his members the unvarnished truth that Xianity is a large part of the problem, not of the solution, was what had set the Alliance apart from all the also-ran orgs that refused to address the negative impact Xianity has had and continues to have on our race for fear of offending Xian sensibilities.

That's why I promote the Creativity Alliance these days. At least there we're all starting back at square one — less Matt Hale & Co. — from the same honest premise of Dr. Pierce's that Gliebe squandered so stupidly, with such facility: Whites need their own religion, one that's not Abrahamic, that doesn't worship the Jew's tribal god YHWH. Gliebe couldn't even spell Cosmotheism, much less explain it.

White Americans' majority to end by mid-century

WASHINGTON – The estimated time when whites will no longer make up the majority of Americans has been pushed back eight years — to 2050 — because the recession and stricter immigration policies have slowed the flow of foreigners into the U.S.

This is nothing new. Race replacement has been ongoing incrementally since WWII. I remember featuring an article in Racial Loyalty back in '88 or '89 when Time magazine first glibly proclaimed this grand fait accomplis that Whites were going to become a minority in the U.S. by 2042, or something, "and there is nothing Whites can do about it." I'll never forget that. "Over my dead body, Jewboys!" I fumed. The Time cover for that issue was a computer-generated mongrel female featuring all the races of 2042 America all mixed together into one muddy phiz. Ugh!

[Bill White found guilty on four counts]

Just posted five minutes ago to VNN forum by "Towardwewelsburg":

Bill White found guilty on four counts
A federal jury has found William A. White guilty on four counts and not guilty on three counts.

The jury found White guilty of: threatening Jennifer Petsche, a Citibank employee in Kansas City, Mo.; intimidating several residents of a Virginia Beach apartment complex with the intent to prevent their testimony in a housing discrimination case; threatening Kathleen Kerr, an administrator at the University of Delaware; and threatening Richard Warman, a human rights lawyer from Canada.

The three counts that resulted in acquittals were: threatening Petsche, the bank employee, with the intent to extort; threatening Leonard Pitts, a nationally syndicated columnist in Bowie, Md.; and threatening Charles Tyson, the former mayor of South Harrison Township, N.J.

White faces a maximum of 40 years in prison on the four convictions. The lawyers involved are given 10 days to file post-verdict motions and to note appeals. After that, White will be sentenced.
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Couldn't have happened to a more deserving "satirist." 

[Man is, as Aristotle observed, a political animal; i.e. he needs to be part of a community. It is in an organization that each individual's full potential has the best chance to be realized. Realization of a potential for pro-White violence backed by an organization is probably going to have to wait until the government has lost all competence to maintain order. This was one aspect of what Dr. Pierce had in mind for the National Alliance, as I understand: strict legality for the present, with the option of organized violence in that future time when general chaos will reign.]

There's some soap opera as well as Commander ASSWIPE scum in these posts I just found here: http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=104641&page=2 but the insider "movement" commentary by my old, trusted NA comrade "Hadding" is worth sharing here. He mentions Matt Hale.

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Originally Posted by Alex Linder:
The feds are going to attack, attempt to infiltrate and by all means undermine any organization that works for Whites. That doesn't mean the feds can't be thwarted, and the way to do it is what I have advocated - a white activist group oriented toward publicizing hush crimes. A handful of professionals with a a skeleton secretarial staff - and all the rest simply donate money and show up at rallies. Boom - basically nothing to infiltrate.

[Hadding:]
What you are saying is, orient an organization exclusively toward legal and peaceful activities and you won't have to worry greatly about the consequences of infiltration. As a matter of fact, since infiltration relies heavily on people who have been caught committing crimes, an organizational prohibition against that kind of activity will reduce the possibility of infiltration.

Somebody mentioned Shaun Walker. Walker beat up somebody in a bar. As far as I know other members of the NA were never dragged into the prosecution. There is no basis for turning Walker's case into an argument against organizing. It's an argument against getting into bar fights.

I think it can be argued that Bill White was largely the architect of his own misfortune as well. What's the point of publishing a juror's home address? Granted that it's perfectly legal, still there is no point except to be menacing. What's the point of making empty threats? It doesn't do any credit to the cause. But again, White's actions got only him into trouble. So what does it have to do with organizing? White went out of his way to be outrageous even when he wasn't in an organization.

I have some sympathy for Matt Hale. It's outrageous that a private, Jew-ridden organization is the gatekeeper for entry into the legal profession. Hale could have avoided that problem, not so much by avoiding organizations as by avoiding nationwide publicity so early in life. Regarding his incarceration, there is a lesson to be learned, which is, don't tolerate people advocating criminal activity within an ostensibly law-abiding organization.

Tom Metzger's opposition on principle to formal organizations makes sense for him, since he has been trying to encourage illegal activity. My understanding of Metzger's "leaderless resistance" is, Break the law but don't tell me. I doubt that this approach has had any significant success, because people left entirely to themselves tend to become self-indulgent. Man is, as Aristotle observed, a political animal; i.e. he needs to be part of a community. It is in an organization that each individual's full potential has the best chance to be realized. Realization of a potential for pro-White violence backed by an organization is probably going to have to wait until the government has lost all competence to maintain order. This was one aspect of what Dr. Pierce had in mind for the National Alliance, as I understand: strict legality for the present, with the option of organized violence in that future time when general chaos will reign.
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J Roberts
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Wow! I met that Michael Burks character at a Council of Conservitive Citizens meeting in Louisville several years ago. A real dorky looking guy. He looked like a small gust of wind could blow him over. He kept talking to Tom Robb about not being able to find a girlfriend. He also used to post on stormfront under the name Kentucky Kludd and Michael Burks. Personally I took him for a loser with no friends who followed WN orginizations looking for acceptance. I also thought he was borderline insane and my gut feeling told me something just wasnt right about him. I never would of thought he was some kind of informer or agent! It makes me sick to think about it. I think I even gave him my phone number and address at the CCC meeting because we both live in the Louisville area. I guess the feds know all about me now LOL.

The lesson here is if someone doesnt seem quite right they probably arent.

Also, anyone in the Louisville area watch out for two skinheads named Josh Cowles and Matt Roberts. Two ex IKA members turned, or were the entire time, informants. Josh Cowles is a fat ugly fuck covered in tatoos. You cant miss him.

Kemp's not from around here, is he?

http://www.arthurkemp.com/?p=412

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7. The Cancers Part IV: The Do-Nothing Obsession–William Pierce and the National Alliance

In retrospect–and I did not realise this until much later–the malign influence of the "do-nothing" mentality created by William Pierce and the National Alliance type of organization has possibly been the single most damaging influence in pro-white politics in American history.

In fact, if America does go down before the Third World, one of the major contributing causes will have been this mentality which prohibited participation in the political process.

William Pierce taught all of his followers that participation in the ordinary democratic process was pointless.

Instead, he said that all they had to do was "wait for the system to collapse and then seize power."

Of course, not Pierce or anyone else could ever say exactly how they were going to "seize power" or when–because they had no idea.

The reason why they had no idea was because it was all fantasy island stuff.

This blind refusal to become involved in the democratic process became the norm, so that the political process became totally dominated by those seeking the destruction of America.

One can only wonder how many potential Ron Pauls were sucked up into this nihilistic mindset and burned out in the negativity of the "do-nothing" camp. I suspect it is far too many.

The National Alliance and its assorted spin-offs have been going for more than thirty years. What do they have to show for it? What political power do they have? Nothing. Zip. Nada.

In fact, America is now considerably worse off.

The time has come to close down the National Alliance and all its spinoffs.

We should be grateful that Kemp didn't mention Creativity.

I couldn't agree more with him on some of his criticism, especially that the current National Alliance should be shut down. But he is talking out of his ass when he writes of what Dr. Pierce supposedly "taught his followers" about participating in the electoral process. He has no idea what he's writing about.