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#3169
Comedy/Humor / Death to the Juice
Mon 27 Apr 2009
#3170
Announcements / Minimum Standards - Guidelines for Becoming a Creator
Wed 22 Apr 2009Quote from: Ben Klassen"I have said it time and time again: CREATIVITY defies classification into any present categories of racial, political, or religious movements. It is not similar to, or a copy of any other movement, past or present. It is not a re-tread of Hitler's Nazi movement, nor are we "Neo-Nazis." It is not similar to, or affiliated with, any of the Klans. It is not a White Supremacy group." Ben Klassen, September 1983.
What few fail to realise is that Creativity did not begin as a Hitler worshipping skinhead religion, accepting the one that has tattooed the most swastikas onto his body and a (backwards) !AWOHAR on his forehead as the latest leader in the Cult of Personality - but to many, this is what Creativity has become.
And this is where it stops.
I have spoken on this subject many times in the past with Rev. Billy on this subject, and I'm glad to see that Reverends Williams and others are on board with us for this. Many will not agree with us, and indeed, we are not going to agree one-hundred percent with eachother on this matter, however, for the main part, we ARE in agreement.
Creativity is not a skinhead religion. It was not created by skinheads or for any one particular fad, class or nation - Creativity is for ALL White People, no matter where they happen to be, or their choice of hair and clothing. If you are here under the misconception that Creativity bends to the will of the skinhead fad, then you are in the wrong place and may aswell stop reading and leave now.
Now, let's get a few things straight. People will argue forever on what it is to be a skinhead, but we have absolutely no interest in that. All we are interested in are public (mis)conceptions. I.e. Hollywood enforced beliefs of what it means to be a skinhead. Drunk, violent, of limited intelligence and criminally oriented. That is the public perception of a skinhead and to many, that is how they perceive Creativity.
How do we stop this? The answer is simple: First we remove from Creativity those that glorify in that manner of behaviour. Note that I said behaviour. The second and more difficult answer is to change people's perceptions by changing how we appear to them. I.e. Dropping the skinhead fetish many seem to have and convince people to leave their swastikas at home.
Skinheads: Hollywood's response to a dwindling use of the Ku Klux Klan as an effective tool to keep the masses enthralled at the pure evil that Whitey can do, was to turn the skinhead into the bald neo-Nazi hiding under your bed. It might sound laughable, but it was effective. Whether skinheads ever were of any use as White activists is highly speculative. However, if skinheads were of any use, that time has long since passed. Today's skinheads are more often desciples of fashion, music and hard partying than they are dedicated White activists. Where skinheads go, infighting occurs as they attempt to follow the doctrines set out for them by Hollywood script writers and prove that each is harder than the other.
Are you a Skinhead?: The style of your hair means nothing these days. Let's face it, a shaved head is probably more popular with the average person in the street than it is with those who like to call themselves "Skins." Jeans with a collared shirt and heavy boots are traits of the White working class which skinheads co-opted for themselves. Again it is simply a style of clothing that is worn by your average White male of middle to low income around the world. Denim/jean jackets and bomber jackets are also something that has been co-opted by the skinhead fad - and just like shaving your head, if that's what you want to do, we are not going to tell you to hide your scalp under a cap or to remove your bomber jacket. However, if you have gone to the extreme and have carefully decked yourself out in an early 1970's style skinhead outfit, then I'm here to tell you that you will never be permitted to form a Primary Group attached to the Creativity Alliance. Even though you may very well be the opposite of Hollywood's portrayl of skinheads, you will still NOT be permitted to fill any role in the Creativity Alliance because your chosen style of dress does nothing but reaffirm public misconceptions about Creativity.
Those who fit the behaviour of the Hollywood skinheads - no matter how they dress - will be thrown out. Those who are model skinheads who fit the look but not the behaviour, we ask that you do what is good for the White Race and modify your clothing style - roll your jeans down and hide your braces - and then join with us.
Tattoos: Many of us have tattoos, but we don't go poncing about the place trying to show off. If you aren't swimming or doing something that requires removing your shirt, then leave it on. If you feel that you must take your shirt off everytime you are with your brothers, then I suggest you find the local gay bar, buy some ecstacy and dance until you drop dead of dehydration.
Costumes: There is no better way to sum up the myriad styles of getup that people like to get around in. American Civil War toy soldier's hats, stitching arms on a bedsheet pretending they are with the Klan, imitation National Socialist SA and SS uniforms, or all dolled up in camouflage imitating GI Joe; whatever your fancy, leave it at home. What you probably didn't know is that many groups such as the Klan that still wear such uniforms now do so only at private functions. It is as much a matter of public perception for them as it is for us.
Flags: Leave your Confederate and swastika flags nailed to the wall at home. The only flag a Creator needs is the flag of Creativity. If you feel that it is essential to show the public that you are proud of your home region, then bring along your state, national or other regional flag.
Recommended Clothing: This will depend on your financial status and the situation you find yourself in. If you can afford a suit, then get one - get three if possible. Failing that, plain white collared shirts, black pants (or skirts if the ladies so desire) and black shoes. This is not meant to be a uniform, it is just a minimum standard that Creators should aim for. Jeans, joggers/boots, t-shirt/collared shirt are all that is required for many situations. Just make sure that there are no offensive patches or logos on your jacket or shirt.
Overall, dress for effect. Have some pride in your appearance. If you have a beard and/or moustache, keep them trimmed - if you don't, then shave before you go out. Same with your hair, keep it tidy or shave it off. If you have dredlocks, you're a disgusting piece of excrement whom we do not wish to associate with.
Behaviour: There's nothing wrong with a few cold beers, just try not to allow yourself to get blind drunk. Don't start fights with people just because they disagree with you. Don't knowingly commit crimes and never attempt to convince others to commit criminal offences on your behalf. If you are known to be inclined to bullying, intimidation of others and/or criminal behaviour, you will not be permitted to fill any role in the Creativity Alliance whatsoever. If you were once given a ministerial title - whether it was in Ben Klassen's, Matt Hale's or any other Church or group dedicated to Creativity, that title will be removed from you by a majority vote of the Guardians of the Faith Committee, and you will be declared unfit to call yourself a Creator.
I hope that this sets things straight with people. I know that some who read this will complain that I've insulted this person or alienated that type of supposedly hardcore activist. The reality is that we just don't care. If you feel insulted, then go elsewhere. Creativity has been brought to an almighty low in recent years thanks to those who fit the negative descriptions above claiming they represent Creativity.
I do believe that if we all follow the guidelines set out above and do what is good for the White Race, then we can take Creativity from the lowest it has ever been to heights never before seen - and then together, we CAN win this racial holy war.
Reverend Cailen Cambeul.
#3171
General Jabber / Pauline Hanson: Nationalist, Not Racialist - But Jews & Marxists Still Hate Her
Fri 03 Apr 2009
Some describe Pauline Hanson as a White Nationalist. White she is, but racial her views are not. In truth, Pauline doesn't have a problem with a multi-racial Australia. Her problem is with a multi-cultural Australia. As far as she's concerned, it doesn't matter what race they are, providing they accept Australian values, tradition and language as their own. In her speeches, she does all but mention the words "melting pot" in her description of what she sees as the future of Australia.
To Australians who are new to this forum, take heed. You don't need to be "racist" to be against multi-culturalism, but you do need to be racist to see through to the taboo subjects of purpose built multi-racialism and the global genocide of White people.
@Cailen.
http://cc.msnscache.com/cache.aspx?q=racist&d=75667298670786&mkt=en-AU&setlang=en-AU&w=7a97e408,4f29480d
Pauline Hanson and the Media
ROSS COULTHART, REPORTER: When an elderly gentleman was bashed by protestors for merely attending a Pauline Hanson rally last year, many Australians who find her policies contemptible nonetheless realised an awful line had been crossed.
Dreadful as it was, the event gave many in the media cause to consider how they had covered these often frightening anti-racism demonstrations. How did our unquestioning coverage of exhortations to kill Pauline Hanson sit with the fact that this was meant to be the voice of anti-racist tolerance?
PAUL SHEEHAN, SYDNEY MORNING HERALD: Last year we saw a frontal assault on freedom of assembly and freedom of speech in Australia. A lot of people were going to One Nation out of curiosity. They'd heard about it in the media and they were curious and what a fearful experience that turned out to be and how did the news media treat this? They treated it with kid gloves. It came and went. They weren't particularly fussed because it was only One Nation that was being physically assaulted and intimidated. That was a disgrace.
REPORTER: As confronting as the admission may be, it is undeniable that many in the mainstream media have unashamedly set out to damage Pauline Hanson's One Nation Party because of its implicitly racist and divisive agenda. But, in seeking to expose what many suspect is the dark side of Hansonism have we crossed an ethical line?I our zeal to do the hatchet job, have we subverted the last few remaining threads of credibility we have with much of the Australian public. And worst of all we are in part responsible for the rise and rise of Pauline Hanson's?
DAVID BARNETT, AUSTRALIAN FINANCIAL REVIEW: The media has created Pauline Hanson. Pauline Hanson can't possibly complain about media, about her coverage in the media. It's been relentlessly hostile. She's never been given a fair go.
MARGO KINGSTON, SYDNEY MORNING HERALD: She gets a huge cheer when she says the media is very trying. She gets lots of questions from the floor about why does the media hate you? Why are they against you? Now that'' very cleaver politics of her because when the media attacks her or questions her then the popularity rises.
GRAEME CAMPBELL, AUSTRALIA FIRST PARTY INDEPENDENT FOR KALGOORLIE: When Pauline Hanson came to this Parliament, there was a concerted effort by the media, the political parties, the churches, pressure to destroy her. All they did was generate public sympathy for Pauline.
REPORTER: A year on from last year's violence, if anything, the media pack's hostility to Pauline Hanson and what it believes she represents has hardened. So much so, that at this press conference to launch her immigration policy earlier last week, the hatred in the room borne towards the Independent member for Oxley from many here was palpable.
Hanson had to expect she'd be asked some tough questions about her confronting policies – not least because her new Immigration spokeswoman is Robin Spencer, brought in from the cold extremes of the Australians Against Further Immigration group.
{FILE TAPE ROBIN SPENCER AT PRESS CONF.}: "Excuse me, the ethnic group leaders are one of the problems of this country". {END FILE TAPE}
REPORTER: Media frustrations boiled over when, time and time again, both women asserted that the official immigration figures were a giant Government lie – designed to keep the 'truth' about real immigration levels from the public.
{FILE TAPE ROBIN SPENCER AT PC}: "The current Government doesn't include many people that come into Australia to settle here permanent, legally or illegally in their figures." {END FILE TAPE}
REPORTER: Equally frustrating was One Nation's assertion that the Immigration policy would be non-discriminatory. For Spencer particularly made no secret of her desire to protect against what she sees as an undesirable level of ethnic Asian migration.
{FILE TAPE – SPENCER AT PC}: "Now when Dr Charles Price from here in Canberra did his study he showed that Australia really would be 27 per cent Asians in 23 years. {END FILE TAPE}
REPORTER: The demographer quoted, a Dr Price, later said One Nation had distorted and misrepresented his research. But the image going out that night to the national audience was that of Pauline Hanson being yelled at yet again by a baying media pack.
DAVID OLDFIELD, ADVISOR ONE NATION: The whole thing was attack, attack, attack. There was nothing genuine about it. It was a whole bunch of people with an agenda. Not a group of professional journalists asking questions.
REPORTER: When you were standing to one side looking on you almost had a smile on your face was the thought going through your mind that all this is doing is playing to Pauline Hanson's natural constituency?
OLDFIELD: Oh to a degree. But mostly what I was thinking was that I thought the public would enjoy seeing journalists the way they think journalists are. And journalists were not letting the public down.
REPORTER: Later that evening One Nation was allowed to win yet another propaganda coup when Immigration Minister Philip Ruddock backed down on an earlier promise to debate Hanson's immigration policy on A Current Affair, objecting to Spencer's presence.
{FILE TAPE RAY MARTIN, ACA}: "Seems a strange decision considering John Howard's recent statement that One Nation's policies should be subjected to close scrutiny and challenge." {END FILE TAPE}
REPORTER: Once again the distorted references to Charles Price were employed.
{FILE TAPE SPENCER EX ACA: "Charles Price, a respected demographer said...{END FILE TAPE}
REPORTER: And appeals to official fact, this time from two immigration experts were swept away by the frustrating One Nation semantic blend of conspiracies, emotion and selective statistics. The more the experts looked smug in the knowledge that they were right, the more David Oldfield looking on knew his leader had won the point.
Robin Spencer clearly upset, but Pauline Hanson knew her message had hit the mark with her A Current Affair audience.
John Pasquarelli was Pauline Hanson's advisor until a falling out last year. He accuses the media of trying to destroy Hanson not just because of what she says but because we and the political establishment are elitist snobs who hate the sort of person that she is.
JOHN PASQUARELLI, FORMER ADVISOR PAULINE HANSON: I think a lot of these people just are up themselves. A lot of them are, I think they're snobs in a lot of ways. They think they're intellectual snobs. They're elite. And how dare a person like Pauline Hanson come along who drops the odd 'R', and god help us work in a fish and chip shop. I mean the greatest example of new age snobbery was that exhibited by Janet Holmes A 'Court when she made a sneering reference to that fish and chip shop woman from Queensland. I mean that again just sent Hanson's appeal up again.
REPORTER: Of course, it's precisely Pauline Hanson's common touch that helped her win 11 seats in last month's Qld State Election. Who could imagine Bronwyn Bishop, Cheryl Kernot or Carmen Lawrence agreeing to do this?
Do you think that it's a class thing with Pauline Hanson?
OLDFIELD: I believe that it is. Yes. I think that the media definitely see themselves as elitist. They definitely see themselves as some sort of social conscience that must make sure that the Australian people see it the way the media see it.
REPORTER: Margo Kingston is one of the Sydney Morning Herald's senior political reporters. She admits that initially she and many of her colleagues made a mistake by deliberately not reporting on Hanson in the hope Hanson and her supporters would go away.
KINGSTON: When the news poll hit two weeks into the Qld election we knew we had to work out what was going on here, that we'd made a mistake. And I think the mistake we made, certainly the mistake I made is I think we all believed Australia had settled a few things about our identity, about our tolerance and about our place in Asia and in the World. And personally I just got the shock of my life and went out to Qld to follow her around and realised you try and have a conversation with the country person about race and there is simply not the language to communicate. Is so different, it is just down the line.
REPORTER: In the weeks prior to the Qld poll it was soon clear that Hanson was not a flash in the pan but looking at a major victory for One Nation. But when Kingston started writing about just what an effective politician Hanson was, many of her colleagues accused her of going soft on the One Nation leader.
KINGSTON: What I was actually doing, shock horror, was observational reportage. That's all.
REPORTER: As distinct from?
KINGSTON: As distinct from finding the chink and making that the story. For example the Courier Mail followed her once in the last week of the campaign. They tried to ignore her. They followed her up to North Qld where every single small town came out to meet her. It was mob scenes. It was interesting. Weird, mind blowing phenomenon. The Courier Mail ran four paras about how she nearly got killed on the road when a driver tried to overtake her that was it.
REPORTER: One obvious example of the media's calculated bias against Hanson was the photos of her used during the campaign.
KINGSTON: If you look at all the mainstream media's pictures of Pauline Hanson before the Qld election and they're all thin lips, sour glowering. Every single one of them. After the Election, all of a sudden, the smiles the attractive face of Pauline Hanson. Now it's easiest to find it in the image but in the stories of course it's happening as well.
REPORTER: So why were the media elite doing that. Why do we do that?
KINGSTON: Well I think it's because there's a social which is evil, destructive and ultimately dangerous for our economy as well. The race stuff is intolerable. Now what the mainstream media wanted, I think what all the mainstream Australia wanted was for the race stuff to be knocked off early. It wasn't John Howard refused to do it. In fact he opened the door to it. He said he understood. Now in may view and I think the view many people – I don't know, I don't think I am elite! – many people who think about Australia for a living: race is not something that you allow to flower.
REPORTER: When John Howard raised his own concerns about the rate of Asian immigration in 1988, many in the media shouted him down as a 'racist'. Noted Australian historian Geoffrey Blainey also copped the same epithet for his views. Whether the media's efforts to knock that race debate on the head was right or wrong, there are those who argue its suppression spawned the seeds of Hansonism a decade on.
PASQUARELLI: Pauline Hanson I think thinks that she is the message but she's only just another messenger. There's a lot of people that have gone before her: John Stone, Blainey, Ruxton, Peter Walsh and of course Graeme Campbell and Pauline never created this response to her. It has been there all the time. I say it's been there festering away since Whitlam and it's been bubbling and seething away right up until her maiden speech. And then it all started coming out. Now that's the response. She let the genie out of the bottle.
REPORTER: As you'll see in Part Two of our story, there's good reason to suspect that the media's efforts to stifle the flames of racism has unwittingly boosted the Hanson bandwagon's ascent to Canberra.
PART TWO:
{FILE TAPE} HANSON MAIDEN SPEECH: My view on issues is based on commonsense and my experience as a mother of 4 children, as a sole parent and a businesswoman running a fish and chip shop. {END FILE TAPE}
REPORTER: The media should have studied recent history more closely for early on in Hanson's political career when she rose to make her maiden speech to parliament we also tried to ignore her without success.
{FILE TAPE-MAIDEN SPEECH}: I am fed up to the back teeth with the inequalities that are being promoted by the Government and paid for by the taxpayer under the assumption that aboriginals are the most disadvantaged people in Australia. {END FILE TAPE}
REPORTER: While her speech received very limited coverage on mainstream radio and the next day's papers, one grab in particular seized the imagination of thousands of callers to tabloid talkback radio that evening and the next day.
{FILE TAPE SPEECH: I believe we are in danger of being swamped by Asians. {END FILE TAPE}
PASQUARELLI: The fax machine went burr and just melted down when the Parliamentary switchboard here they were getting back up forces, back up help, to come in when the switchboard here at Parliament House went into melt-down.
REPORTER: Fired by the shockjocks, so began the media transformation of the Qld country girl into a major new political force – Hanson receiving credibility in a growing avalanche of press coverage. While there was no doubting the implicitly racist overtones in her speech, we in the media unwittingly played right into One Nation's hands by giving her often wildly inaccurate assertions national prominence.
The biggest shock to media and hardened political operators from the major parties was the enthusiasm with which the Midday audience applauded her taboo claims: that aborigines get unfair benefits; her call for the abolition of multiculturalism; and her fears about the level of Asian immigration.
{FILE TAPE HANSON ON MIDDAY 11 SEPTEMBER 1996}: If they leave their country, come out here then they are Australians. Everyone equal, everyone treated the same and no one's better than anyone else. Audience Applause. {END FILE TAPE}
OLDFIELD: What Pauline has done is broken through that veil of political correctness that has suppressed people. I mean there are millions of decent Australians out there who have not a racist bone in their body but they're sick to death of being told what they're allowed to say and what they're not allowed to say.
REPORTER: Sydney Morning Herald senior journalist Paul Sheehan has written what is this week a number 1 best selling book called 'Among the Barbarians', arguing that there are taboo concerns, including those about aborigines and Asian immigration, that we in the media have colluded to suppress.
PAUL SHEEHAN, SYDNEY MORNING HERALD: The news media gave her an enormous amount of publicity. They gave her the oxygen and then they sneered and jeered and ridiculed her and ordinary people were saying, wait a minute, wait a minute, she's raising issues that we would like raised and she's getting bucketed and they felt that by being bucketed that they themselves were being bucketed by this cappuccino ghetto, these little cappuccino quaffing journalists who were sneering at the working class Australians.
REPORTER: Sheehan actually argues the media chose to hear what it wanted to hear in Hanson's speech because it was convinced she was really a racist.
SHEEHAN: The speech contained the ultimate sound bite, 'we're going to be swamped by Asian's', but later in the speech she said she described Asian immigrants as hard-working, and that they should be treated like any other Australian. You could argue that her speech was a speech against racial politics. Now this was never reported in the media and I don't want my remarks to be seen as sympathetic to Pauline Hanson, I'm not. But I am not sympathetic to the way in which the whole issue was distorted. All the comments that she made that would have evened out her remarks have been ignored systematically and cynically.
RICHARD MCGREGOR, THE AUSTRALIAN: One point I agree with Paul Sheehan and other people is that the accusation, the shrill accusation of racist is far too overused and used to intimidate people and that's quite correct.
REPORTER: Richard McGregor is the Chief Political Reporter for the Australian newspaper. While he agrees that the use of the 'racist' pejorative in Australia has often demeaned the real meaning of the word, he echoes the view of most of his press gallery colleagues that Hanson's speeches are racist and should be treated as such by the media.
MCGREGOR: But if you, say for example, raise the issue of slowing down Asian immigration, what does that mean? Does that mean we then discriminate on the grounds of race and letting people into the country? Do we give points for Hong Kong and more points for Britain and less for Lebanon. I mean, how does it work. How do you do it?
REPORTER: If Hanson's maiden speech was racist, her appearance on the Midday program a week later with Aboriginal leader Charlie Perkins tellingly revealed most in the audience didn't care. Hanson was telling them what they'd wanted to hear for years.
{FILE TAPE HANSON ON MIDDAY 16 SEPTEMBER 1996}:
Hanson: I feel that his has been just suppressed for too long in this country. It's about time we brought it out in the open. It's like a festering sore. People need to talk about it. APPLAUSE.
Charles Perkins: You're an ignorant person in terms of race relations in this country. You don't know what your talking about (noise from audience). Just a minute. The blue rinse set is piping in.
Kennerley: Excuse me Mr Perkins I wouldn't like you to insult our audience who have been gracious enough to give you your time this afternoon.
Perkins: You've been wonderful to do that.
Kennerley: So if you wouldn't mind not being rude to our audience...
Perkins: I'm not being rude, don't be rude to me if you could just let me finish then, I know it's your program.
Kennerley: do not be rude to our audience.
{END FILE TAPE}
PASQUARELLI: She did him like a dinner. I mean Charles Perkins, the Aboriginal industry should never ever let him be their spokesman.
{FILE TAPE HANSON ON MIDDAY 16 SEPT 1996}: You have the position. You're on the ATSIC board. Well what have you done for your people. [Audience applause] Where has the money gone? I am concerned about your people and you know what, I want to see what's happening to the money. Why isn't it going to where it's supposed to be going? [Applause] {END FILE TAPE}
REPORTER: On live national television Hanson clumsily articulated the frustrations of many people – including aborigines - with the wastage and failures in Aboriginal funding. And when she presented Perkins with what she claimed was her report on these problems he angrily threw it back.
{FILE TAPE PERKINS AND HANSON ON MIDDAY}: She's telling a lot of bullshit. She doesn't' know what she's talking about. She's using Parliament to slam Asians, Aboriginal people and all good Australians. You're giving Australians a bad name lady, a bad name. { END FILE TAPE }
PETER BOWERS: I am at once fascinated and absolutely repulsed by this woman.
REPORTER: Peter Bowers is one of Canberra's most respected and experienced political journalists. He agrees that a mainstream media reluctance to acknowledge the failures and weaknesses in some aboriginal programs has handed Hansonism the most effective form of propaganda:
BOWERS: All the buttons she touches, there are elements of truth there. There are elements of truth in the Question she asked the PM yesterday about aborigines getting loans for one and a half percent. Why can't you give it to hard pressed country folk for one and a half per cent when I set up a people's bank I get ridiculed... So there is an element of truth, that's true.
REPORTER: And is it true that the country feels that that aspect of the debate has been suppressed by people like you and I.
BOWERS: I think unwittingly there's a lot of us in the media may have been shied off these things because of political correctness but we didn't want to see if we questioned some programs as to why it is that aboriginal health is such an appalling disgraceful national scandal despite a great deal of public money that's been thrown at the problem.
REPORTER: Have we done a disservice by not reporting the corruption. We've all seen it?
KINGSTON: I don't think there's any doubt about that. The apex of this movement in the early 90s was Robert Tickner, the Aboriginal Affairs Minister, walking into a room saying I have just done a report on the $250m aboriginal health strategy, we can't find out where the money's gone, it's made no difference. And someone, I think it was me, said 'Excuse me this isn't good enough' and I got accused of 'I know you're not a racist Margo but some people would think you were.' There is no doubt that at that stage the issues were so sensitive that we went too far one way.
REPORTER: We suppressed that debate?
KINGSTON: It was suppressed.
REPORTER: The real danger posed in the rise in Pauline Hanson and her One Nation supporters is that the more the media and our politicians attempt to suppress the grievances of her audience - however ignorant and racist they are - the more ready that audience will to wear the racist tag.
PASQUARELLI: As soon as you ever try to have a debate, you're called a racist. Seriously, you are called a racist. Read through the articles written in the Age or the Fairfax press. Your called a racist or a bigot. Thank God those words have been so misused by your mates in the media. They've lost their currency. Just like homosexuals stole gay. Now we're going to see principle and morality. The way these politicians are flogging those words another couple of years they'll have no currency either.
REPORTER: There's another word that people now associate with Pauline Hanson and it's spawned the phrase that has become her rallying cry.
{FILE TAPE EX: 60 MINUTES 13 OCTOBER 1996}: Tracey Curro: Are you Xenophobic?
Hanson: Please explain? {END FILE TAPE}
PASQUARELLI: Immediately she said it I prayed. The first time in my life I've prayed I think. Ad I said please don't let them edit that out, and they didn't.
REPORTER: But they presumably.....
PASQUARELLI: But they thought it was going to do Pauline a lot of damage I think. And it backfired.
REPORTER: It's a measure of just how much of a gulf there is between the sneering media and it's understanding of Hanson's appeal that what we all thought was an embarrassing blunder became Pauline Hanson's credo cur.
Another confronting thing for all of us in the media is that a lot of support for Hanson's implicitly racist calls to reduce Asian immigration and abolish multiculturalism actually comes from ethnic Australia.
Everywhere she goes, Hanson's audience responds sympathetically to her claims that she is not getting a fair go from the media.
OLDFIELD: People hate, absolutely hate the media with a vengeance.
REPORTER: Pauline Hanson's advisor David Oldfield admits One Nation has no difficulties in convincing the public that media coverage of the Party and its leader has been hysterically biased.
Why he says is the media so eager to dig up sexual dirt on him and Hanson and not to raise the stories we all know about other politicians?
OLDFIELD: There are no taboos. Anything can be asked, any line can be crossed, as soon as it's Pauline Hanson the media think they've got a free kick to hurt, to impale, to attack, to murder to do anything they like. Any scurrilous allegation regardless of how lacking in substance, regardless of how lacking in credibility the person who might be making it may be, gets a run. If your willing to put up your hand and say I've got something really nasty to say about Pauline Hanson you'll find yourself on national television.
{FILE TAPE: SUNDAY 13 JUNE 1998}:"BRIAN ANNEAR WALKER"
Ransley: Do you know how many school teachers there are?
Walker: No I'll be honest about that.
Ransley: What about the annual budget of the Queensland education department.? Walker: No I don't know. {END FILE TAPE}
REPORTER: Prior to the June 13th Queensland state elections with polls showing One Nation almost certain to hold the balance of power. Sunday's Paul Ransley quizzed some of the parties candidates about the portfolios they would be expected to oversee.
{FILE TAPE ROSITTA PETCH HEALTH SPOKESWOMAN}:
Ransley: Do you know what the Queensland share of the Medicare agreement is.?
Petch: No I'm not going to start quoting numbers because I could quote the wrong number.
Ransley: Do you know how many Aborigines and Torres Strait islanders make up the prison population in Queensland?
no.
Petch: I should know these things but I'm just telling you I'm not going to quote numbers. I may quote the wrong number and that will leave me with egg on my face and I don't intend to do that. {END FILE TAPE}
OLDFIELD: There's no doubt they were caught out and they looked very silly. And in fact I use the tape from your show now to train other people as to how not to get themselves caught. But I mean what you get of course is, your people would have known these people were very inexperienced, you can lead them up the garden path. I mean the bottom line is, and I think the public are aware of this, an experienced journalist can get a person to say things that they just don't mean.
REPORTER: This week Pauline Hanson ejected the Queensland Times newspaper from her electorate office. Claiming it was biased. The offending story run about a One Nation candidate prior to the qld poll seemed reasonable enough. But it was a perfect opportunity for Hanson to give the media a serve. As hard as it may be for us in the media to admit it Pauline Hanson does have a point. Like the way the press covered allegations by liberal MP Tony Abbot a week ago.
{FILE TAPE ABBOTT IN PARLIAMENT}: So One Nation has registered in Queensland it doesn't have 500 members, it is not a validly registered political party and it cannot receive any public funding. {END FILE TAPE}
REPORTER: neither Tony Abbot nor most of the national media that carried his allegations last weekend bothered to check them first with the qld electoral commission. Readers of this Sun Herald headline could be forgiven for thinking that Hanson would pocket half a million dollars in funding for her own personal use. Yet this week a frustrated Queensland electoral commissioner Mr Des O'Shea told Sunday that Tony Abbots' allegations about the parties registration were completely baseless. Also this week the Australia Israel review magazine allowed one nation to once again take the moral high ground by publishing the names of 2000 party members and donors from a leaked confidential list.
OLDFILED: Considering the history of the Jewish people for one of their magazines to open to persecution 1000 or so of our members by printing their names I think is just the peak of hypocrisy. I mean they are Nazi style tactics to be quite frank.
REPORTER: Indeed other Jewish groups and civil liberty organisations backed away from the ill conceived attack. Horrified at the breach of privacy of people who after all were merely exercising their right to belong to a political party. While the publishers tried to defend their actions they had in fact unwittingly delivered one nation another propaganda victory. In the wake of One Nation's Queensland victory, the media and the mainstream parties have often sought to either ignore, ridicule or sully Pauline Hanson. An unconvinced constituency has pushed her support even higher in the polls.
PASQUARRELLI: She and the media know are locked together. You know it's locked in an embrassive you know, both parties don't want to be in but they're there.
REPORTER: The frustrating dilemma for the media is how to analyse the policies of a party that when it's confronted with an objective truth claims its all part of a big Government lie. Perhaps we should be looking at why so many people want to believe that. To borrow from Friedrich Nietzsche "the more the media tries to destroy Pauline Hanson the more it will make her strong".
ENDS.
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Pauline Hanson and the Media
ROSS COULTHART, REPORTER: When an elderly gentleman was bashed by protestors for merely attending a Pauline Hanson rally last year, many Australians who find her policies contemptible nonetheless realised an awful line had been crossed.
Dreadful as it was, the event gave many in the media cause to consider how they had covered these often frightening anti-racism demonstrations. How did our unquestioning coverage of exhortations to kill Pauline Hanson sit with the fact that this was meant to be the voice of anti-racist tolerance?
PAUL SHEEHAN, SYDNEY MORNING HERALD: Last year we saw a frontal assault on freedom of assembly and freedom of speech in Australia. A lot of people were going to One Nation out of curiosity. They'd heard about it in the media and they were curious and what a fearful experience that turned out to be and how did the news media treat this? They treated it with kid gloves. It came and went. They weren't particularly fussed because it was only One Nation that was being physically assaulted and intimidated. That was a disgrace.
REPORTER: As confronting as the admission may be, it is undeniable that many in the mainstream media have unashamedly set out to damage Pauline Hanson's One Nation Party because of its implicitly racist and divisive agenda. But, in seeking to expose what many suspect is the dark side of Hansonism have we crossed an ethical line?I our zeal to do the hatchet job, have we subverted the last few remaining threads of credibility we have with much of the Australian public. And worst of all we are in part responsible for the rise and rise of Pauline Hanson's?
DAVID BARNETT, AUSTRALIAN FINANCIAL REVIEW: The media has created Pauline Hanson. Pauline Hanson can't possibly complain about media, about her coverage in the media. It's been relentlessly hostile. She's never been given a fair go.
MARGO KINGSTON, SYDNEY MORNING HERALD: She gets a huge cheer when she says the media is very trying. She gets lots of questions from the floor about why does the media hate you? Why are they against you? Now that'' very cleaver politics of her because when the media attacks her or questions her then the popularity rises.
GRAEME CAMPBELL, AUSTRALIA FIRST PARTY INDEPENDENT FOR KALGOORLIE: When Pauline Hanson came to this Parliament, there was a concerted effort by the media, the political parties, the churches, pressure to destroy her. All they did was generate public sympathy for Pauline.
REPORTER: A year on from last year's violence, if anything, the media pack's hostility to Pauline Hanson and what it believes she represents has hardened. So much so, that at this press conference to launch her immigration policy earlier last week, the hatred in the room borne towards the Independent member for Oxley from many here was palpable.
Hanson had to expect she'd be asked some tough questions about her confronting policies – not least because her new Immigration spokeswoman is Robin Spencer, brought in from the cold extremes of the Australians Against Further Immigration group.
{FILE TAPE ROBIN SPENCER AT PRESS CONF.}: "Excuse me, the ethnic group leaders are one of the problems of this country". {END FILE TAPE}
REPORTER: Media frustrations boiled over when, time and time again, both women asserted that the official immigration figures were a giant Government lie – designed to keep the 'truth' about real immigration levels from the public.
{FILE TAPE ROBIN SPENCER AT PC}: "The current Government doesn't include many people that come into Australia to settle here permanent, legally or illegally in their figures." {END FILE TAPE}
REPORTER: Equally frustrating was One Nation's assertion that the Immigration policy would be non-discriminatory. For Spencer particularly made no secret of her desire to protect against what she sees as an undesirable level of ethnic Asian migration.
{FILE TAPE – SPENCER AT PC}: "Now when Dr Charles Price from here in Canberra did his study he showed that Australia really would be 27 per cent Asians in 23 years. {END FILE TAPE}
REPORTER: The demographer quoted, a Dr Price, later said One Nation had distorted and misrepresented his research. But the image going out that night to the national audience was that of Pauline Hanson being yelled at yet again by a baying media pack.
DAVID OLDFIELD, ADVISOR ONE NATION: The whole thing was attack, attack, attack. There was nothing genuine about it. It was a whole bunch of people with an agenda. Not a group of professional journalists asking questions.
REPORTER: When you were standing to one side looking on you almost had a smile on your face was the thought going through your mind that all this is doing is playing to Pauline Hanson's natural constituency?
OLDFIELD: Oh to a degree. But mostly what I was thinking was that I thought the public would enjoy seeing journalists the way they think journalists are. And journalists were not letting the public down.
REPORTER: Later that evening One Nation was allowed to win yet another propaganda coup when Immigration Minister Philip Ruddock backed down on an earlier promise to debate Hanson's immigration policy on A Current Affair, objecting to Spencer's presence.
{FILE TAPE RAY MARTIN, ACA}: "Seems a strange decision considering John Howard's recent statement that One Nation's policies should be subjected to close scrutiny and challenge." {END FILE TAPE}
REPORTER: Once again the distorted references to Charles Price were employed.
{FILE TAPE SPENCER EX ACA: "Charles Price, a respected demographer said...{END FILE TAPE}
REPORTER: And appeals to official fact, this time from two immigration experts were swept away by the frustrating One Nation semantic blend of conspiracies, emotion and selective statistics. The more the experts looked smug in the knowledge that they were right, the more David Oldfield looking on knew his leader had won the point.
Robin Spencer clearly upset, but Pauline Hanson knew her message had hit the mark with her A Current Affair audience.
John Pasquarelli was Pauline Hanson's advisor until a falling out last year. He accuses the media of trying to destroy Hanson not just because of what she says but because we and the political establishment are elitist snobs who hate the sort of person that she is.
JOHN PASQUARELLI, FORMER ADVISOR PAULINE HANSON: I think a lot of these people just are up themselves. A lot of them are, I think they're snobs in a lot of ways. They think they're intellectual snobs. They're elite. And how dare a person like Pauline Hanson come along who drops the odd 'R', and god help us work in a fish and chip shop. I mean the greatest example of new age snobbery was that exhibited by Janet Holmes A 'Court when she made a sneering reference to that fish and chip shop woman from Queensland. I mean that again just sent Hanson's appeal up again.
REPORTER: Of course, it's precisely Pauline Hanson's common touch that helped her win 11 seats in last month's Qld State Election. Who could imagine Bronwyn Bishop, Cheryl Kernot or Carmen Lawrence agreeing to do this?
Do you think that it's a class thing with Pauline Hanson?
OLDFIELD: I believe that it is. Yes. I think that the media definitely see themselves as elitist. They definitely see themselves as some sort of social conscience that must make sure that the Australian people see it the way the media see it.
REPORTER: Margo Kingston is one of the Sydney Morning Herald's senior political reporters. She admits that initially she and many of her colleagues made a mistake by deliberately not reporting on Hanson in the hope Hanson and her supporters would go away.
KINGSTON: When the news poll hit two weeks into the Qld election we knew we had to work out what was going on here, that we'd made a mistake. And I think the mistake we made, certainly the mistake I made is I think we all believed Australia had settled a few things about our identity, about our tolerance and about our place in Asia and in the World. And personally I just got the shock of my life and went out to Qld to follow her around and realised you try and have a conversation with the country person about race and there is simply not the language to communicate. Is so different, it is just down the line.
REPORTER: In the weeks prior to the Qld poll it was soon clear that Hanson was not a flash in the pan but looking at a major victory for One Nation. But when Kingston started writing about just what an effective politician Hanson was, many of her colleagues accused her of going soft on the One Nation leader.
KINGSTON: What I was actually doing, shock horror, was observational reportage. That's all.
REPORTER: As distinct from?
KINGSTON: As distinct from finding the chink and making that the story. For example the Courier Mail followed her once in the last week of the campaign. They tried to ignore her. They followed her up to North Qld where every single small town came out to meet her. It was mob scenes. It was interesting. Weird, mind blowing phenomenon. The Courier Mail ran four paras about how she nearly got killed on the road when a driver tried to overtake her that was it.
REPORTER: One obvious example of the media's calculated bias against Hanson was the photos of her used during the campaign.
KINGSTON: If you look at all the mainstream media's pictures of Pauline Hanson before the Qld election and they're all thin lips, sour glowering. Every single one of them. After the Election, all of a sudden, the smiles the attractive face of Pauline Hanson. Now it's easiest to find it in the image but in the stories of course it's happening as well.
REPORTER: So why were the media elite doing that. Why do we do that?
KINGSTON: Well I think it's because there's a social which is evil, destructive and ultimately dangerous for our economy as well. The race stuff is intolerable. Now what the mainstream media wanted, I think what all the mainstream Australia wanted was for the race stuff to be knocked off early. It wasn't John Howard refused to do it. In fact he opened the door to it. He said he understood. Now in may view and I think the view many people – I don't know, I don't think I am elite! – many people who think about Australia for a living: race is not something that you allow to flower.
REPORTER: When John Howard raised his own concerns about the rate of Asian immigration in 1988, many in the media shouted him down as a 'racist'. Noted Australian historian Geoffrey Blainey also copped the same epithet for his views. Whether the media's efforts to knock that race debate on the head was right or wrong, there are those who argue its suppression spawned the seeds of Hansonism a decade on.
PASQUARELLI: Pauline Hanson I think thinks that she is the message but she's only just another messenger. There's a lot of people that have gone before her: John Stone, Blainey, Ruxton, Peter Walsh and of course Graeme Campbell and Pauline never created this response to her. It has been there all the time. I say it's been there festering away since Whitlam and it's been bubbling and seething away right up until her maiden speech. And then it all started coming out. Now that's the response. She let the genie out of the bottle.
REPORTER: As you'll see in Part Two of our story, there's good reason to suspect that the media's efforts to stifle the flames of racism has unwittingly boosted the Hanson bandwagon's ascent to Canberra.
PART TWO:
{FILE TAPE} HANSON MAIDEN SPEECH: My view on issues is based on commonsense and my experience as a mother of 4 children, as a sole parent and a businesswoman running a fish and chip shop. {END FILE TAPE}
REPORTER: The media should have studied recent history more closely for early on in Hanson's political career when she rose to make her maiden speech to parliament we also tried to ignore her without success.
{FILE TAPE-MAIDEN SPEECH}: I am fed up to the back teeth with the inequalities that are being promoted by the Government and paid for by the taxpayer under the assumption that aboriginals are the most disadvantaged people in Australia. {END FILE TAPE}
REPORTER: While her speech received very limited coverage on mainstream radio and the next day's papers, one grab in particular seized the imagination of thousands of callers to tabloid talkback radio that evening and the next day.
{FILE TAPE SPEECH: I believe we are in danger of being swamped by Asians. {END FILE TAPE}
PASQUARELLI: The fax machine went burr and just melted down when the Parliamentary switchboard here they were getting back up forces, back up help, to come in when the switchboard here at Parliament House went into melt-down.
REPORTER: Fired by the shockjocks, so began the media transformation of the Qld country girl into a major new political force – Hanson receiving credibility in a growing avalanche of press coverage. While there was no doubting the implicitly racist overtones in her speech, we in the media unwittingly played right into One Nation's hands by giving her often wildly inaccurate assertions national prominence.
The biggest shock to media and hardened political operators from the major parties was the enthusiasm with which the Midday audience applauded her taboo claims: that aborigines get unfair benefits; her call for the abolition of multiculturalism; and her fears about the level of Asian immigration.
{FILE TAPE HANSON ON MIDDAY 11 SEPTEMBER 1996}: If they leave their country, come out here then they are Australians. Everyone equal, everyone treated the same and no one's better than anyone else. Audience Applause. {END FILE TAPE}
OLDFIELD: What Pauline has done is broken through that veil of political correctness that has suppressed people. I mean there are millions of decent Australians out there who have not a racist bone in their body but they're sick to death of being told what they're allowed to say and what they're not allowed to say.
REPORTER: Sydney Morning Herald senior journalist Paul Sheehan has written what is this week a number 1 best selling book called 'Among the Barbarians', arguing that there are taboo concerns, including those about aborigines and Asian immigration, that we in the media have colluded to suppress.
PAUL SHEEHAN, SYDNEY MORNING HERALD: The news media gave her an enormous amount of publicity. They gave her the oxygen and then they sneered and jeered and ridiculed her and ordinary people were saying, wait a minute, wait a minute, she's raising issues that we would like raised and she's getting bucketed and they felt that by being bucketed that they themselves were being bucketed by this cappuccino ghetto, these little cappuccino quaffing journalists who were sneering at the working class Australians.
REPORTER: Sheehan actually argues the media chose to hear what it wanted to hear in Hanson's speech because it was convinced she was really a racist.
SHEEHAN: The speech contained the ultimate sound bite, 'we're going to be swamped by Asian's', but later in the speech she said she described Asian immigrants as hard-working, and that they should be treated like any other Australian. You could argue that her speech was a speech against racial politics. Now this was never reported in the media and I don't want my remarks to be seen as sympathetic to Pauline Hanson, I'm not. But I am not sympathetic to the way in which the whole issue was distorted. All the comments that she made that would have evened out her remarks have been ignored systematically and cynically.
RICHARD MCGREGOR, THE AUSTRALIAN: One point I agree with Paul Sheehan and other people is that the accusation, the shrill accusation of racist is far too overused and used to intimidate people and that's quite correct.
REPORTER: Richard McGregor is the Chief Political Reporter for the Australian newspaper. While he agrees that the use of the 'racist' pejorative in Australia has often demeaned the real meaning of the word, he echoes the view of most of his press gallery colleagues that Hanson's speeches are racist and should be treated as such by the media.
MCGREGOR: But if you, say for example, raise the issue of slowing down Asian immigration, what does that mean? Does that mean we then discriminate on the grounds of race and letting people into the country? Do we give points for Hong Kong and more points for Britain and less for Lebanon. I mean, how does it work. How do you do it?
REPORTER: If Hanson's maiden speech was racist, her appearance on the Midday program a week later with Aboriginal leader Charlie Perkins tellingly revealed most in the audience didn't care. Hanson was telling them what they'd wanted to hear for years.
{FILE TAPE HANSON ON MIDDAY 16 SEPTEMBER 1996}:
Hanson: I feel that his has been just suppressed for too long in this country. It's about time we brought it out in the open. It's like a festering sore. People need to talk about it. APPLAUSE.
Charles Perkins: You're an ignorant person in terms of race relations in this country. You don't know what your talking about (noise from audience). Just a minute. The blue rinse set is piping in.
Kennerley: Excuse me Mr Perkins I wouldn't like you to insult our audience who have been gracious enough to give you your time this afternoon.
Perkins: You've been wonderful to do that.
Kennerley: So if you wouldn't mind not being rude to our audience...
Perkins: I'm not being rude, don't be rude to me if you could just let me finish then, I know it's your program.
Kennerley: do not be rude to our audience.
{END FILE TAPE}
PASQUARELLI: She did him like a dinner. I mean Charles Perkins, the Aboriginal industry should never ever let him be their spokesman.
{FILE TAPE HANSON ON MIDDAY 16 SEPT 1996}: You have the position. You're on the ATSIC board. Well what have you done for your people. [Audience applause] Where has the money gone? I am concerned about your people and you know what, I want to see what's happening to the money. Why isn't it going to where it's supposed to be going? [Applause] {END FILE TAPE}
REPORTER: On live national television Hanson clumsily articulated the frustrations of many people – including aborigines - with the wastage and failures in Aboriginal funding. And when she presented Perkins with what she claimed was her report on these problems he angrily threw it back.
{FILE TAPE PERKINS AND HANSON ON MIDDAY}: She's telling a lot of bullshit. She doesn't' know what she's talking about. She's using Parliament to slam Asians, Aboriginal people and all good Australians. You're giving Australians a bad name lady, a bad name. { END FILE TAPE }
PETER BOWERS: I am at once fascinated and absolutely repulsed by this woman.
REPORTER: Peter Bowers is one of Canberra's most respected and experienced political journalists. He agrees that a mainstream media reluctance to acknowledge the failures and weaknesses in some aboriginal programs has handed Hansonism the most effective form of propaganda:
BOWERS: All the buttons she touches, there are elements of truth there. There are elements of truth in the Question she asked the PM yesterday about aborigines getting loans for one and a half percent. Why can't you give it to hard pressed country folk for one and a half per cent when I set up a people's bank I get ridiculed... So there is an element of truth, that's true.
REPORTER: And is it true that the country feels that that aspect of the debate has been suppressed by people like you and I.
BOWERS: I think unwittingly there's a lot of us in the media may have been shied off these things because of political correctness but we didn't want to see if we questioned some programs as to why it is that aboriginal health is such an appalling disgraceful national scandal despite a great deal of public money that's been thrown at the problem.
REPORTER: Have we done a disservice by not reporting the corruption. We've all seen it?
KINGSTON: I don't think there's any doubt about that. The apex of this movement in the early 90s was Robert Tickner, the Aboriginal Affairs Minister, walking into a room saying I have just done a report on the $250m aboriginal health strategy, we can't find out where the money's gone, it's made no difference. And someone, I think it was me, said 'Excuse me this isn't good enough' and I got accused of 'I know you're not a racist Margo but some people would think you were.' There is no doubt that at that stage the issues were so sensitive that we went too far one way.
REPORTER: We suppressed that debate?
KINGSTON: It was suppressed.
REPORTER: The real danger posed in the rise in Pauline Hanson and her One Nation supporters is that the more the media and our politicians attempt to suppress the grievances of her audience - however ignorant and racist they are - the more ready that audience will to wear the racist tag.
PASQUARELLI: As soon as you ever try to have a debate, you're called a racist. Seriously, you are called a racist. Read through the articles written in the Age or the Fairfax press. Your called a racist or a bigot. Thank God those words have been so misused by your mates in the media. They've lost their currency. Just like homosexuals stole gay. Now we're going to see principle and morality. The way these politicians are flogging those words another couple of years they'll have no currency either.
REPORTER: There's another word that people now associate with Pauline Hanson and it's spawned the phrase that has become her rallying cry.
{FILE TAPE EX: 60 MINUTES 13 OCTOBER 1996}: Tracey Curro: Are you Xenophobic?
Hanson: Please explain? {END FILE TAPE}
PASQUARELLI: Immediately she said it I prayed. The first time in my life I've prayed I think. Ad I said please don't let them edit that out, and they didn't.
REPORTER: But they presumably.....
PASQUARELLI: But they thought it was going to do Pauline a lot of damage I think. And it backfired.
REPORTER: It's a measure of just how much of a gulf there is between the sneering media and it's understanding of Hanson's appeal that what we all thought was an embarrassing blunder became Pauline Hanson's credo cur.
Another confronting thing for all of us in the media is that a lot of support for Hanson's implicitly racist calls to reduce Asian immigration and abolish multiculturalism actually comes from ethnic Australia.
Everywhere she goes, Hanson's audience responds sympathetically to her claims that she is not getting a fair go from the media.
OLDFIELD: People hate, absolutely hate the media with a vengeance.
REPORTER: Pauline Hanson's advisor David Oldfield admits One Nation has no difficulties in convincing the public that media coverage of the Party and its leader has been hysterically biased.
Why he says is the media so eager to dig up sexual dirt on him and Hanson and not to raise the stories we all know about other politicians?
OLDFIELD: There are no taboos. Anything can be asked, any line can be crossed, as soon as it's Pauline Hanson the media think they've got a free kick to hurt, to impale, to attack, to murder to do anything they like. Any scurrilous allegation regardless of how lacking in substance, regardless of how lacking in credibility the person who might be making it may be, gets a run. If your willing to put up your hand and say I've got something really nasty to say about Pauline Hanson you'll find yourself on national television.
{FILE TAPE: SUNDAY 13 JUNE 1998}:"BRIAN ANNEAR WALKER"
Ransley: Do you know how many school teachers there are?
Walker: No I'll be honest about that.
Ransley: What about the annual budget of the Queensland education department.? Walker: No I don't know. {END FILE TAPE}
REPORTER: Prior to the June 13th Queensland state elections with polls showing One Nation almost certain to hold the balance of power. Sunday's Paul Ransley quizzed some of the parties candidates about the portfolios they would be expected to oversee.
{FILE TAPE ROSITTA PETCH HEALTH SPOKESWOMAN}:
Ransley: Do you know what the Queensland share of the Medicare agreement is.?
Petch: No I'm not going to start quoting numbers because I could quote the wrong number.
Ransley: Do you know how many Aborigines and Torres Strait islanders make up the prison population in Queensland?
no.
Petch: I should know these things but I'm just telling you I'm not going to quote numbers. I may quote the wrong number and that will leave me with egg on my face and I don't intend to do that. {END FILE TAPE}
OLDFIELD: There's no doubt they were caught out and they looked very silly. And in fact I use the tape from your show now to train other people as to how not to get themselves caught. But I mean what you get of course is, your people would have known these people were very inexperienced, you can lead them up the garden path. I mean the bottom line is, and I think the public are aware of this, an experienced journalist can get a person to say things that they just don't mean.
REPORTER: This week Pauline Hanson ejected the Queensland Times newspaper from her electorate office. Claiming it was biased. The offending story run about a One Nation candidate prior to the qld poll seemed reasonable enough. But it was a perfect opportunity for Hanson to give the media a serve. As hard as it may be for us in the media to admit it Pauline Hanson does have a point. Like the way the press covered allegations by liberal MP Tony Abbot a week ago.
{FILE TAPE ABBOTT IN PARLIAMENT}: So One Nation has registered in Queensland it doesn't have 500 members, it is not a validly registered political party and it cannot receive any public funding. {END FILE TAPE}
REPORTER: neither Tony Abbot nor most of the national media that carried his allegations last weekend bothered to check them first with the qld electoral commission. Readers of this Sun Herald headline could be forgiven for thinking that Hanson would pocket half a million dollars in funding for her own personal use. Yet this week a frustrated Queensland electoral commissioner Mr Des O'Shea told Sunday that Tony Abbots' allegations about the parties registration were completely baseless. Also this week the Australia Israel review magazine allowed one nation to once again take the moral high ground by publishing the names of 2000 party members and donors from a leaked confidential list.
OLDFILED: Considering the history of the Jewish people for one of their magazines to open to persecution 1000 or so of our members by printing their names I think is just the peak of hypocrisy. I mean they are Nazi style tactics to be quite frank.
REPORTER: Indeed other Jewish groups and civil liberty organisations backed away from the ill conceived attack. Horrified at the breach of privacy of people who after all were merely exercising their right to belong to a political party. While the publishers tried to defend their actions they had in fact unwittingly delivered one nation another propaganda victory. In the wake of One Nation's Queensland victory, the media and the mainstream parties have often sought to either ignore, ridicule or sully Pauline Hanson. An unconvinced constituency has pushed her support even higher in the polls.
PASQUARRELLI: She and the media know are locked together. You know it's locked in an embrassive you know, both parties don't want to be in but they're there.
REPORTER: The frustrating dilemma for the media is how to analyse the policies of a party that when it's confronted with an objective truth claims its all part of a big Government lie. Perhaps we should be looking at why so many people want to believe that. To borrow from Friedrich Nietzsche "the more the media tries to destroy Pauline Hanson the more it will make her strong".
ENDS.
#3172
General Jabber / Marxist Dictatorship Downunder Leads to Censorship - Internet Filters
Thu 19 Mar 2009
http://www.techradar.com/news/internet/australia-issues-wikileaks-linking-fine-warning-585894
Internet News
Australian Government adds Wikileaks to banned website list
Linking to flagged sites will cost you
Can anyone else see http://wikileaks.org ? I'm in Australia and I can't.
Either the site is down because of too much traffic, or I'm blocked by the Oz JOG.
@Cailen.
Internet News
Australian Government adds Wikileaks to banned website list
Linking to flagged sites will cost you
QuoteThe Australian communications regulator has issued a stark warning that websites who link out to 'banned' hyperlinks are liable to fines of up to Aus $11,000 a day.
The news comes after web forum Whirlpool was threatened with the fine for posting a hyperlink to a blacklisted anti-abortion website.
Wikileaks blacklisted
One of the newest additions to Australia's 'blacklisted hyperlinks' list is Wikileaks; the website that publishes anonymous submissions of sensitive info on everything from corporations, religion and governments.
The blacklisting of certain pages of the site has come about after Wikileaks posted a list of websites at the tail end of 2008 that comprised the 'secret internet censorship' list for Denmark. On this list were over 3,500 sites that were censored or banned in the country.
Disturbing picture
While Australia's list of blacklisted sites currently stands at 1,370, the Sydney Morning Herald is reporting that that list could increase to around 10,000 sites – most of which are of illegal pornographic content, but could also includes sites that house incendiary political discussions.
"The Government is embarking on a deeply unpopular and troubling experiment to fine-tune its ability to censor the internet," said communications spokesman Senator Scott Ludlam of Australian opposition party Greens.
"If you consider this kind of net censorship in the context of Australia's anti-terror laws, it paints a disturbing picture indeed."
On its website, Wikileaks, which leaked the news that the government had banned it for leaking information, simply said: "The first rule of censorship is that you cannot talk about censorship."
Currently, it is not illegal for internet users in Australia to click on the sites found on the web blacklist. The people targeted by the Australian Communications and Media Authority (ACMA) are webmasters linking out to the sites that the government have flagged up as inappropriate.
This could all change, however, if a mandatory internet filtering censorship scheme is implemented – something that is being debated at the moment.
Via Sydney Morning Herald
By Marc Chacksfield
Can anyone else see http://wikileaks.org ? I'm in Australia and I can't.
Either the site is down because of too much traffic, or I'm blocked by the Oz JOG.
@Cailen.
#3173
General Jabber / Movie Review: Documentary - The Truth About 9/11 - The Missing Links Movie
Thu 05 Mar 2009
From: http://www.911missinglinks.com
As mastermind/creator of this site and the film "Missing Links", I, Mike Delaney of http://prothink.org, want everyone to STEAL this movie and call it your own and get it out to everyone you know. This video was the sacrifice of people like myself who wanted the REAL truth about 9/11 to get out.
Thank you
Mike Delaney
From the Source: Now you will discover the definitive truth about 9/11 and learn why even the most popular movies on the subject have failed to address the evidence exhaustively presented in this video. The facts will make it abundantly clear that the so-called 9/11 "Truth" movement has been infiltrated and is ultimately controlled by the same criminal group who masterminded the attacks. As they say, 'if you want to control the dissent you lead the dissent.' Utilizing evidence from the FBI, CIA, NSA, US Armed Forces Intelligence sectors, Foreign Intelligence organizations, local law enforcement agencies and independent investigators, Missing Links goes where no other 9/11 video has dared to.
As mastermind/creator of this site and the film "Missing Links", I, Mike Delaney of http://prothink.org, want everyone to STEAL this movie and call it your own and get it out to everyone you know. This video was the sacrifice of people like myself who wanted the REAL truth about 9/11 to get out.
Thank you
Mike Delaney
From the Source: Now you will discover the definitive truth about 9/11 and learn why even the most popular movies on the subject have failed to address the evidence exhaustively presented in this video. The facts will make it abundantly clear that the so-called 9/11 "Truth" movement has been infiltrated and is ultimately controlled by the same criminal group who masterminded the attacks. As they say, 'if you want to control the dissent you lead the dissent.' Utilizing evidence from the FBI, CIA, NSA, US Armed Forces Intelligence sectors, Foreign Intelligence organizations, local law enforcement agencies and independent investigators, Missing Links goes where no other 9/11 video has dared to.
#3174
Books / White Separatist, ... Supremacist, ... Power, Neo-Nazi
Thu 05 Mar 2009
Encyclopedia of white power By Jeffrey Kaplan
http://books.google.com/books?id=nNWbbhUYv8oC&printsec=frontcover&dq=Encyclopedia+of+white+power
The white separatist movement in the United States By Betty A. Dobratz, Stephanie L. Shanks-Meile
http://books.google.com/books?id=r59bGyH4lOAC&printsec=frontcover&dq=white-separatist-movement-in-the-united-states
Inside Organized Racism - Women in the Hate Movement By Kathleen M. Blee
http://books.google.com/books?id=O8rj6BaBIecC&printsec=frontcover&dq=white-separatist-movement-in-the-united-states&vq=%22%22White+power,+white+pride!%22%22&source=gbs_book_citations_r&cad=1_1
Google Search ...
http://books.google.com/books?q=church-of-the-creator&btnG=Search+Books
http://books.google.com/books?id=nNWbbhUYv8oC&printsec=frontcover&dq=Encyclopedia+of+white+power
The white separatist movement in the United States By Betty A. Dobratz, Stephanie L. Shanks-Meile
http://books.google.com/books?id=r59bGyH4lOAC&printsec=frontcover&dq=white-separatist-movement-in-the-united-states
Inside Organized Racism - Women in the Hate Movement By Kathleen M. Blee
http://books.google.com/books?id=O8rj6BaBIecC&printsec=frontcover&dq=white-separatist-movement-in-the-united-states&vq=%22%22White+power,+white+pride!%22%22&source=gbs_book_citations_r&cad=1_1
Google Search ...
http://books.google.com/books?q=church-of-the-creator&btnG=Search+Books
#3175
Downunder News / Film: Sudanese Kicking Whitey at a Train Station in Melbourne-Australia
Wed 25 Feb 2009
Your video to share:
You'll see a White bloke getting kicked repeatedly in the head by a group of Sudanese and a couple of Asians going past which are left untouched, who of course don't bother to help.
I've had similar happen to me, but from behind and in Brisbane. When I woke up, the police threatened me with charges of Racial Vilification IF I reported it.
Welcome to multicultural Australia.
@Cailen.
You'll see a White bloke getting kicked repeatedly in the head by a group of Sudanese and a couple of Asians going past which are left untouched, who of course don't bother to help.
Quote from: http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,25105388-5005961,00.htmlGRAPHIC footage of a youth's brutal bashing at a train station shows three attackers taking turns to kick him in the head.
Detectives investigating the vicious assault say they are appalled by the level of violence, which left the 23-year-old man from Sunshine in Melbourne's west with serious head injuries.
The man was beaten even after he handed over the backpack that appeared to be the motive behind the gang-attack.
Transit detective Mark Sontag said he believed even the trio's mates and family would not hesitate to turn them in, given the nature of the assault, the Herald Sun reports.
The disturbing footage shows the slightly-built youth's head bouncing on the concrete walls of the underpass as he is kicked time and time again by three men of African appearance, even after slumping to the ground unconscious.
Afterwards, one of the attackers appears to clap his hands in what appears to be a celebration of the sickening assault.
"Even the perpetrators families' would be disgusted by this," he said.
Police said there was nothing of real value in the victim's bag.
According to the police the unemployed Sunshine man was kicked unconscious and left for dead in the Sunshine Railway Station underpass at 12.10am on Tuesday morning.
The victim initially tried to ignore the three attackers as they tried to engage him in conversation on the train and the platform, before surrounding him and knocking him to the ground.
"This is a pretty appalling attack on a vulnerable young man who was by himself at the Sunshine railway station," Sen-Constable Sontag said.
I've had similar happen to me, but from behind and in Brisbane. When I woke up, the police threatened me with charges of Racial Vilification IF I reported it.
Welcome to multicultural Australia.
@Cailen.
#3176
Downunder News / Australian Holocaust (Not to be Confused with the Holohoax)
Sun 08 Feb 2009
There's been another bushfire in Australia with more than 88 deaths.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,25025493-661,00.html
AUSTRALIA has been singled out as a target for "forest jihad" by a group of Islamic extremists urging Muslims to deliberately light bushfires as a weapon of terror.
Image stored locally
Image from the Herald Sun thatis likely to have had Jewish groups frothing at the mouth and led to the removal of articles relating Australia's very real and deadliest bushfire to the Jews' fabled Holocaust.
Video interview:http://player.video.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/#DXQAr4peZS_0GDC7kUtWznRfElRP_gkf
QuoteUPDATE 1:01am: THE death toll in Australia's worst ever bushfires has hit 93.
At least 650 homes have been destroyed and 3733 people have registered with the Red Cross after evacuating their properties.
The number left homeless is expected to be far higher, the Red Cross says.
Victoria Police Chief Commissioner Christine Nixon said the death toll included at least four children.
"The sad part for me is to say to the community that there will be more deaths, we believe," Ms Nixon said at a 6pm press conference at Moe Police Station.
"We will find more bodies as we gain access to different parts of the fire areas, where at the moment we just havn't been able to get in.
"So far we have found people in cars, it looks like they have decided late to leave their premises.
"We have found people who have been in properties, in their paddocks.
"We've found others in their houses.
"It covers the whole range. And the sad part is that we found children. That is devastating for us."
Ms Nixon said she was sickened by the fact some of the fires may have been deliberately lit.[more ...]
AUSTRALIA has been singled out as a target for "forest jihad" by a group of Islamic extremists urging Muslims to deliberately light bushfires as a weapon of terror.
Image stored locally
Image from the Herald Sun that
Video interview:
#3177
Comedy/Humor / South African Humour
Thu 29 Jan 2009
They have a joke in South Africa that goes like this,
Q: What is the difference between a tourist and a racist?
A: About 3 months!!
@Cailen.
Q: What is the difference between a tourist and a racist?
A: About 3 months!!
@Cailen.
#3178
General News / Lesbian Anti-Racist Activist Mugged By Nigger
Thu 29 Jan 2009
Anti-Racist Activist Mugged By Black Man
http://www.therightperspective.org/?p=1226
A white professor and anti-racist activist has been savagely beaten by an African-American man on the streets of Washington, DC just days before the inauguration of Barack Obama.
62-year old JoAnne Silver Jones was mugged on Jan. 16 while on her way to see her adopted daughter. Jones was beat on her head, arms and hands with a brick by her African-American male assailant during the attack, according to long-time friend Patricia Romney. "He beat her face so badly that she was unable to open her eyes, and one eye socket was torn by the blows," she said.
Jones is an associate professor in the School of Human Services at Springfield College and director of the social work program. She has co-authored a paper titled, "Feminist Strategies for Teaching About Oppression" and was involved with "cross-cultural issues" including a 1999 incident at Amherst Regional High School where Puerto Rican students protested the school's production of "West Side Story".
Jones is still recovering at George Washington University Hospital after undergoing surgery on her skull and eye, but may be released this weekend, Romney said. "She can walk a little but is nauseous and headachy," she said. "She's a tough cookie, but this is totally traumatizing. It's going to be a long way back." Jones will need additional surgery on both hands, which are still bandaged from her elbows to her fingertips.
Romney said she is struck by what she termed the "paradox of it all"
- a white anti-racism activist, the first African-American president and a mugger identified as African-American. To test Jones' brain, doctors asked her the name of the new president, and she answered correctly. "This won't shake any of her political activism," Romney said of Jones. "She's clear about what the issues are. This won't sway her desire to keep fighting for social justice."
Jones' spouse Deborah King will be nursing her back to health. Jones' assailant remains at large.
http://www.therightperspective.org/?p=1226
A white professor and anti-racist activist has been savagely beaten by an African-American man on the streets of Washington, DC just days before the inauguration of Barack Obama.
62-year old JoAnne Silver Jones was mugged on Jan. 16 while on her way to see her adopted daughter. Jones was beat on her head, arms and hands with a brick by her African-American male assailant during the attack, according to long-time friend Patricia Romney. "He beat her face so badly that she was unable to open her eyes, and one eye socket was torn by the blows," she said.
Jones is an associate professor in the School of Human Services at Springfield College and director of the social work program. She has co-authored a paper titled, "Feminist Strategies for Teaching About Oppression" and was involved with "cross-cultural issues" including a 1999 incident at Amherst Regional High School where Puerto Rican students protested the school's production of "West Side Story".
Jones is still recovering at George Washington University Hospital after undergoing surgery on her skull and eye, but may be released this weekend, Romney said. "She can walk a little but is nauseous and headachy," she said. "She's a tough cookie, but this is totally traumatizing. It's going to be a long way back." Jones will need additional surgery on both hands, which are still bandaged from her elbows to her fingertips.
Romney said she is struck by what she termed the "paradox of it all"
- a white anti-racism activist, the first African-American president and a mugger identified as African-American. To test Jones' brain, doctors asked her the name of the new president, and she answered correctly. "This won't shake any of her political activism," Romney said of Jones. "She's clear about what the issues are. This won't sway her desire to keep fighting for social justice."Jones' spouse Deborah King will be nursing her back to health. Jones' assailant remains at large.
#3179
Creativity in the MSM News / 2009-01-28 Idaho: Forgotten Terror Threats—American Racists and Neo-Nazis
Thu 29 Jan 2009
Forgotten terror threats—American racists and neo-Nazis
Idaho Mountain Express
http://www.mtexpress.com/index2.php?ID=2005124570
America's "war on terror" has understandably fixed attention overseas on Muslim militant organizations such as al-Qaeda. But not to be underestimated are the hatred for and potential violence to Americans by homegrown terrorists.
This violent breed of all-white racists reserves their hatred for blacks, Jews and immigrants, usually Hispanics.
Hundreds of small cells of would-be terrorists exist throughout the United States. They travel under various names—Ku Klux Klan, National Socialist Movement, Vinlander Social Club, American National Socialist Workers Party, World Wide Church of the Creator, National Alliance, White Aryan Resistance, National Vanguard.
To the dismay of civil rights groups, on the margins are a few politicians and rural law enforcement officers who express their disdain and distrust of black Americans and Hispanics, plus radio talk show hosts who tend to give stature to racist propaganda.
Several plots to kill Barack Obama were broken up when federal agents arrested the conspirators. A white supremacist neo-Nazi, William White, was arrested after threatening a bank employee, a university professor, a black mayor and African American plaintiffs in a housing bias lawsuit. All the suspects remain in jail.
A number of arrests have also been made in hate crime attacks on Hispanics, including several murders.
The most effective tactic in defusing these groups has been mounted by the Southern Poverty Law Center, of Montgomery, Ala., whose longtime leader, Morris Dees, has been the target of assassination threats. The SPLC has filed 25 successful lawsuits that have crippled or brought down hate groups with civil damage verdicts on behalf of victims or their families. The suits wiped out finances and property assets of the organizations.
Unfortunately, tough economic times seem to be the natural ally of hate groups. Memberships swell with new recruits who blame their troubles on minority groups. For example, the SPLC reports that known anti-immigrant hate groups have increased from 602 in 2000 to 888 in 2008—a 48 percent increase. This prompted Jeff Schoep, leader of the neo-Nazi National Socialist Movement, to crow, "This immigrant thing ... has been the greatest boon to us."
Fueling more hate group activities are the election of the first black U.S. president and a new U.S. Census report predicting America's whites will lose their majority status by 2040.
SPLC spokesman Mark Potok fears the worst—possibly "a dangerous, racially motivated backlash of hate" by American terrorists aimed at other Americans.
Sadly, America's new era of racial diversity could be threatened by a few Americans who live in the dark cultural past.
Idaho Mountain Express
http://www.mtexpress.com/index2.php?ID=2005124570
America's "war on terror" has understandably fixed attention overseas on Muslim militant organizations such as al-Qaeda. But not to be underestimated are the hatred for and potential violence to Americans by homegrown terrorists.
This violent breed of all-white racists reserves their hatred for blacks, Jews and immigrants, usually Hispanics.
Hundreds of small cells of would-be terrorists exist throughout the United States. They travel under various names—Ku Klux Klan, National Socialist Movement, Vinlander Social Club, American National Socialist Workers Party, World Wide Church of the Creator, National Alliance, White Aryan Resistance, National Vanguard.
To the dismay of civil rights groups, on the margins are a few politicians and rural law enforcement officers who express their disdain and distrust of black Americans and Hispanics, plus radio talk show hosts who tend to give stature to racist propaganda.
Several plots to kill Barack Obama were broken up when federal agents arrested the conspirators. A white supremacist neo-Nazi, William White, was arrested after threatening a bank employee, a university professor, a black mayor and African American plaintiffs in a housing bias lawsuit. All the suspects remain in jail.
A number of arrests have also been made in hate crime attacks on Hispanics, including several murders.
The most effective tactic in defusing these groups has been mounted by the Southern Poverty Law Center, of Montgomery, Ala., whose longtime leader, Morris Dees, has been the target of assassination threats. The SPLC has filed 25 successful lawsuits that have crippled or brought down hate groups with civil damage verdicts on behalf of victims or their families. The suits wiped out finances and property assets of the organizations.
Unfortunately, tough economic times seem to be the natural ally of hate groups. Memberships swell with new recruits who blame their troubles on minority groups. For example, the SPLC reports that known anti-immigrant hate groups have increased from 602 in 2000 to 888 in 2008—a 48 percent increase. This prompted Jeff Schoep, leader of the neo-Nazi National Socialist Movement, to crow, "This immigrant thing ... has been the greatest boon to us."
Fueling more hate group activities are the election of the first black U.S. president and a new U.S. Census report predicting America's whites will lose their majority status by 2040.
SPLC spokesman Mark Potok fears the worst—possibly "a dangerous, racially motivated backlash of hate" by American terrorists aimed at other Americans.
Sadly, America's new era of racial diversity could be threatened by a few Americans who live in the dark cultural past.
#3180
General News / Rabbis Halt Vatican Talks over Holocaust-Truther Priest
Thu 29 Jan 2009
Rabbis may halt Vatican talks over Holocaust-denying priest
Riazat Butt, religious affairs correspondent
The Guardian, Thursday 29 January 2009
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/29/rabbis-vatican-pope-holocaust
The Chief Rabbinate of Israel has threatened to break off normal dialogue with the Vatican over its decision to lift the excommunication of a Catholic priest who claimed that no Jews died in gas chambers during the second world war.
In a letter to Cardinal Walter Kasper, president of the Holy See's Commission for Religious Relations with Jewry, officials from Israel's supreme religious governing body warned that without a public apology from the priest it would be "very difficult to continue dialogue with the Vatican as before". The letter called on the priest, British-born Richard Williamson, to recant his "deplorable" statement.
The letter said: "You will appreciate that under such circumstances it would be wiser for us to postpone our next meeting in Rome at the beginning of March until this matter is clarified."
It is the fiercest criticism yet of the papal decree, issued last weekend, aimed at rehabilitating members of a traditionalist Catholic order - the Society of St Pius X - one of whose clerics is a Holocaust denier.
Williamson, who now lives in Argentina, had claimed in a television interview that historical evidence was "hugely against six million having been deliberately gassed in gas chambers as a deliberate policy of Adolf Hitler ... I believe there were no gas chambers."
Alongside three bishops, Williamson was excommunicated 20 years ago after being consecrated by French archbishop Marcel Lefebvre without papal consent.
The letter, signed by Oded Weiner, the director of the Chief Rabbinate, said: "Even if the move in itself was not intended in any way to relate to the church's relationship with the Jewish people, when it involves the embrace of someone who publicly expresses such odious and outrageous opinions, then it definitely does affect our relationship."
Yesterday Weiner told the Guardian the Rabbinate was demanding an explanation from the Vatican. "This relationship is very important for us and the Holy See. We have not cut ties with them. We are saying the matter has to be clarified. They are aware of the pain and sensitivity and they will consider it and send it up to the highest authorities."
His comments came as the pope made his first public remarks on interfaith relations. Referring to his recent commemoration of the Holocaust, he highlighted how at Auschwitz "millions of Jews were cruelly massacred, innocent victims of blind racial and religious hatred". At his weekly audience, yesterday Benedict XVI told thousands: "I once again affectionately express my full and indisputable solidarity with our brothers and sisters who received the first covenant. I trust that the memory of the Shoah will induce humankind to reflect upon the unpredictable power of evil when it conquers the heart of man."
The row, however, shows no immediate sign of abating. The Nobel peace prize winner and death camp survivor, Elie Wiesel, said that the pope, by lifting the excommunications, had given credence to "the most vulgar aspect of antisemitism".
In an interview with Reuters, Wiesel said: "What does the pope think we feel when he did that?"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/judaism
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/race
Riazat Butt, religious affairs correspondent
The Guardian, Thursday 29 January 2009
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/29/rabbis-vatican-pope-holocaust
The Chief Rabbinate of Israel has threatened to break off normal dialogue with the Vatican over its decision to lift the excommunication of a Catholic priest who claimed that no Jews died in gas chambers during the second world war.
In a letter to Cardinal Walter Kasper, president of the Holy See's Commission for Religious Relations with Jewry, officials from Israel's supreme religious governing body warned that without a public apology from the priest it would be "very difficult to continue dialogue with the Vatican as before". The letter called on the priest, British-born Richard Williamson, to recant his "deplorable" statement.
The letter said: "You will appreciate that under such circumstances it would be wiser for us to postpone our next meeting in Rome at the beginning of March until this matter is clarified."
It is the fiercest criticism yet of the papal decree, issued last weekend, aimed at rehabilitating members of a traditionalist Catholic order - the Society of St Pius X - one of whose clerics is a Holocaust denier.
Williamson, who now lives in Argentina, had claimed in a television interview that historical evidence was "hugely against six million having been deliberately gassed in gas chambers as a deliberate policy of Adolf Hitler ... I believe there were no gas chambers."
Alongside three bishops, Williamson was excommunicated 20 years ago after being consecrated by French archbishop Marcel Lefebvre without papal consent.
The letter, signed by Oded Weiner, the director of the Chief Rabbinate, said: "Even if the move in itself was not intended in any way to relate to the church's relationship with the Jewish people, when it involves the embrace of someone who publicly expresses such odious and outrageous opinions, then it definitely does affect our relationship."
Yesterday Weiner told the Guardian the Rabbinate was demanding an explanation from the Vatican. "This relationship is very important for us and the Holy See. We have not cut ties with them. We are saying the matter has to be clarified. They are aware of the pain and sensitivity and they will consider it and send it up to the highest authorities."
His comments came as the pope made his first public remarks on interfaith relations. Referring to his recent commemoration of the Holocaust, he highlighted how at Auschwitz "millions of Jews were cruelly massacred, innocent victims of blind racial and religious hatred". At his weekly audience, yesterday Benedict XVI told thousands: "I once again affectionately express my full and indisputable solidarity with our brothers and sisters who received the first covenant. I trust that the memory of the Shoah will induce humankind to reflect upon the unpredictable power of evil when it conquers the heart of man."
The row, however, shows no immediate sign of abating. The Nobel peace prize winner and death camp survivor, Elie Wiesel, said that the pope, by lifting the excommunications, had given credence to "the most vulgar aspect of antisemitism".
In an interview with Reuters, Wiesel said: "What does the pope think we feel when he did that?"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/judaism
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/race
#3181
General News / Flag Day = Australia Day
Mon 26 Jan 2009
Just doing my job and bringing it to the fore.
Australia Day is a White only celebration as the Abos consider it Invasion Day.
Australia Day is a White only celebration as the Abos consider it Invasion Day.
#3183
General Jabber / Nigger site to disgust all
Fri 16 Jan 2009
There's not much else I can say. The title says all there is to it. This is a nigger site to disgust all decent White folk.
http://underprivilegedjournalism.blogspot.com
Pontifex Cambeul.
Quote from: Some Vile Nigger"That these filthy creatures who call themselves humans that are white could and do think they are above the universal laws of nature, God and karma bespeaks the psychological sickness that is now inherent in them because of their unwillingness to change,"
http://underprivilegedjournalism.blogspot.com
Pontifex Cambeul.
#3184
General Jabber / Creativity Calendar
Sun 11 Jan 2009
I have decided to do a new calendar for January 36 AC to December 36 AC (2009) and need your help with the pictures. If you have any images you would like put in this year's Creativity calendar, send them to Admin@creativityalliance.com.
When completed, calendars will be available for purchase online at 0% profit - but that doesn't stop you buying a hundred to distribute and/or sell and make a profit for your own Primary Group.
@Cailen.
When completed, calendars will be available for purchase online at 0% profit - but that doesn't stop you buying a hundred to distribute and/or sell and make a profit for your own Primary Group.
@Cailen.
#3185
Comedy/Humor / Obama: In Truth We Jest
Sun 11 Jan 2009
First Lady of the United States, Mrs Michelle Obama, likes to keep busy, so she gets a job as a teacher.
Mrs Obama notices a little Black boy in the field standing alone, while all the White kids are running around having fun. She takes pity on him and decides to speak to him.
'You ok?' she says.
'Yes,' he says.
'You don't have to be scared of racism. You can go and play with the other kids you know,' she says.
'It's best I stay here.'he says. '
'Why?' says Mrs Obama.
'Because, I'm the goalie,' replies the boy.
Mrs Obama notices a little Black boy in the field standing alone, while all the White kids are running around having fun. She takes pity on him and decides to speak to him.
'You ok?' she says.
'Yes,' he says.
'You don't have to be scared of racism. You can go and play with the other kids you know,' she says.
'It's best I stay here.'he says. '
'Why?' says Mrs Obama.
'Because, I'm the goalie,' replies the boy.
#3186
General Jabber / Vistaprint - DO NOT USE!
Mon 05 Jan 2009
Being in Australia I use http://www.vistaprint.com.au but the company has sites all over the world in a number of languages. Just click the link, sign up and get them to start sending you daily offers in your email. Don't buy anything unless it is on sale and you will soon have your own professional business cards and stationary.
@Cailen.
@Cailen.
#3187
General Jabber / Movie Review: Valkyrie with Tom Cruise (2008)
Sun 28 Dec 2008QuoteCruise's Valkyrie blasted as "Nazi apologia"
An influential US critic on Friday blasted Tom Cruise's latest movie Valkyrie as ``Nazi apologia'' in the sharpest criticism yet of the WWII thriller.
The movie features the US superstar as Colonel Claus von Stauffenberg, an aristocratic German who headed a group of top officers who hatched a plot to kill Hitler late in the war.
Roger Friedman, film critic for Fox News, said the movie appeared to intentionally minimise the impact of Nazism.
"I'm concerned that Valkyrie could represent a new trend in filmmaking: Nazi apologia. Not once in Valkyrie do any of the 'heroes' mention what's happening around them. Hitler has systemically killed millions,'' said Friedman.
"Valkyrie opens the door to a dangerous new thought: that the Holocaust and all the other atrocities could be of secondary importance to the cause of German patriotism.''
Friedman criticised the set designers for minimising or hiding the swastikas that have become symbols of the evils of Nazism, and blasted the portrayal of Hitler as a ``doddering fool with a British accent and a nice suit''.
Friedman's political criticism of the movie may have been the sharpest of US reviews, but it was far from the only negative assessment.
Writing in the Washington Post, Phillip Kennicott blasted the film's puzzling failure to portray von Stauffenberg's life before his unsuccessful assassination attempt - when he was untroubled by Nazism and served as Hitler's loyal soldier.
Kennicott also criticised the movie for failing to point out that the plot was hatched not out of moral objections to Nazism but only when Germany was facing imminent collapse.
Stauffenberg ``was not a committed anti-Nazi until very late in the game'', wrote Kennicott. ``Many anti-Hitler conspirators weren't so much against Nazism, with its vile racial and militarist policies, as they were against Hitler's disastrous leadership of the war''.
Cruise himself came close to distorting the extent of German support for Hitler and his policies.
``It's important to know that it wasn't everybody - not everybody felt the way (Hitler did) or fell into the Nazi ideology,'' Cruise said during the film's US press tour.
``The thing that stood out to me was Stauffenburg himself and the amount of desperation and pain for him,'' Cruise said. ``He wanted a moral country that participated in the world, not one of annihilation and Holocausts and world domination.
``He was a man who was able to see through all the propaganda and see how utterly insane Hitler was, and ultimately he was the one to say, 'Somebody's got to shoot that bastard.'''
Now I'm confused. Originally I wasn't going to bother watching that movie because it would no doubt be another dose of anti-Nazi propaganda from the Mayer-Goldwyns of Hollyweird, but if watching it offends the Holohoaxers and might possibly promote a future trend towards movies promoting German nationalism while minimizing or even ditching altogether the mythical stories we've heard far too much about, then I think I should go see it.
Now to deal with the fact that I can't stand Tom Cruise and still don't want to see the film. I'd rather watch a good documentary.
@Cailen.
#3188
General News / SA moves to ban gang
Tue 16 Dec 2008
SA moves to ban gang
http://www.independentweekly.com.au/news/local/news/general/sa-moves-to-ban-finks-bikie-gang/1387792.aspx
This is a local state law, but it has many similarities to other laws around the world.
Some here may think, "What the hell? Who gives a **** about bikers." If you do have that attitude, then you are wrong to think that way. If the JOG were just interested in removing the real criminals from society, they would have used already established laws to target the criminal elements within the motorcycle clubs. This would in effect cause the clubs to clean up their own and become more stringent on the character of prospective members. However, the JOG have used the outlaw motorcycle clubs as the boogey-men of society to pass draconian anti-freedom of association laws through state parliament. Those very same laws which the JOG have nicknamed "anti-bikie laws" can be used against anyone the JOG deems to be offensive to their sense of propriety. That includes us.
Creativity is a religion - Yes. Creativity is recognised under US Federal law and therefore UN treaties as a valid religion - Yes. Will governments such as the JOG of South Australia honour US Federal court decisions or UN treaties when they see an opportunity to legislate Creativity out of existance - No. Therefore it behooves us to make sure Creators refrain from gang related activity.
There is no denying that we have all seen the gangster types within Creativity in the past, and they still exist today. They are the ones that spend their days watching re-runs of Romper Stomper and Ice T nigger movies while trying to hone their skills at being a gangster. They are the ones that tell you that their drunken, aggressive behaviour and (often) their time spent in prison for violence and murder of innocent White people is a badge of honour for them. They are the ones that believe they are the elite soldiers of "The Movement." Yet, they are also the kind that believe only they have the right to hold the title of Creator. They are nothing more than a bunch of niggers in White skin, and if they can't be brought into line, should be dealt with in the harshest possible means by our own people.
If you BELIEVE that the one and only, true and revolutionary White Racial Religion - Creativity - is the only salvation for the White Race, then you will act accordingly. You should already know that what is good for Creativity is good for the White race. Therefore, what is good for the White Race is the highest virtue, and what is bad for the White Race is the ultimate sin.
Stay honest, stay true, and stay loyal. Avoid the gangster mentality and above all, don't give the JOG any opportunities.
@Cailen.
http://www.independentweekly.com.au/news/local/news/general/sa-moves-to-ban-finks-bikie-gang/1387792.aspx
This is a local state law, but it has many similarities to other laws around the world.
QuoteSouth Australian police have moved to effectively ban the Finks motorcycle gang using world-first legislation to crack down on their criminal activities.
Police Commissioner Mal Hyde confirmed today that an application had been forwarded to Attorney-General Michael Atkinson to have the Finks named a "declared organisation" under tough new anti-gang laws.
If successful the declaration will essentially make it illegal for gang members to meet or gather together.
The new laws, which came into effect in September, also allow magistrates to issue control orders against gang members and introduce a new offence of criminal association to stop gang members and their hangers-on from gathering.
The Finks are the first group targeted by the new legislation, but further applications to outlaw other bikie gangs are expected, with police likely to move against street gangs as well.
When the new laws came into effect Assistant Commissioner Tony Harrison said officers had been working for some time to prepare cases against key groups, with bikie gangs the first in their sights....
Police intelligence suggests there are about 250 initiated members of eight bikie gangs operating in South Australia, with a further 150 people closely associated with those groups [more ...]
Some here may think, "What the hell? Who gives a **** about bikers." If you do have that attitude, then you are wrong to think that way. If the JOG were just interested in removing the real criminals from society, they would have used already established laws to target the criminal elements within the motorcycle clubs. This would in effect cause the clubs to clean up their own and become more stringent on the character of prospective members. However, the JOG have used the outlaw motorcycle clubs as the boogey-men of society to pass draconian anti-freedom of association laws through state parliament. Those very same laws which the JOG have nicknamed "anti-bikie laws" can be used against anyone the JOG deems to be offensive to their sense of propriety. That includes us.
Creativity is a religion - Yes. Creativity is recognised under US Federal law and therefore UN treaties as a valid religion - Yes. Will governments such as the JOG of South Australia honour US Federal court decisions or UN treaties when they see an opportunity to legislate Creativity out of existance - No. Therefore it behooves us to make sure Creators refrain from gang related activity.
There is no denying that we have all seen the gangster types within Creativity in the past, and they still exist today. They are the ones that spend their days watching re-runs of Romper Stomper and Ice T nigger movies while trying to hone their skills at being a gangster. They are the ones that tell you that their drunken, aggressive behaviour and (often) their time spent in prison for violence and murder of innocent White people is a badge of honour for them. They are the ones that believe they are the elite soldiers of "The Movement." Yet, they are also the kind that believe only they have the right to hold the title of Creator. They are nothing more than a bunch of niggers in White skin, and if they can't be brought into line, should be dealt with in the harshest possible means by our own people.
If you BELIEVE that the one and only, true and revolutionary White Racial Religion - Creativity - is the only salvation for the White Race, then you will act accordingly. You should already know that what is good for Creativity is good for the White race. Therefore, what is good for the White Race is the highest virtue, and what is bad for the White Race is the ultimate sin.
Stay honest, stay true, and stay loyal. Avoid the gangster mentality and above all, don't give the JOG any opportunities.
@Cailen.
#3189
General News / Students to be taught there's no God
Sun 14 Dec 2008
Students to be taught there's no God
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,24797395-29277,00.html
Australia: VICTORIAN state primary school students will soon be able to take religious education classes which teach there is no evidence God exists.
The Humanist Society of Victoria has developed a curriculum for primary pupils that the state government accreditation body says it intends to approve, The Sunday Age newspaper reported.
Accredited volunteers will be able to teach their philosophy in the class time allotted for religious instruction, the newspaper said.
As with lessons delivered by faith groups, parents will be able to request that their children do not participate.
"Atheistical parents will be pleased to hear that humanistic courses of ethics will soon be available in some state schools," Victorian Humanist Society president Stephen Stuart said.
The society does not consider itself to be a religious organisation and believes ethics have "no necessary connection with religion".
Humanists believe people are responsible for their own destiny and reject the notion of a supernatural force or God.
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,24797395-29277,00.html
Australia: VICTORIAN state primary school students will soon be able to take religious education classes which teach there is no evidence God exists.
The Humanist Society of Victoria has developed a curriculum for primary pupils that the state government accreditation body says it intends to approve, The Sunday Age newspaper reported.
Accredited volunteers will be able to teach their philosophy in the class time allotted for religious instruction, the newspaper said.
As with lessons delivered by faith groups, parents will be able to request that their children do not participate.
"Atheistical parents will be pleased to hear that humanistic courses of ethics will soon be available in some state schools," Victorian Humanist Society president Stephen Stuart said.
The society does not consider itself to be a religious organisation and believes ethics have "no necessary connection with religion".
Humanists believe people are responsible for their own destiny and reject the notion of a supernatural force or God.
#3190
Downunder News / Police Murder White Nationalist Teen
Sat 13 Dec 2008
Police shot and killed a 15 year old boy carrying knives at a Northcoate Skate Park in Melbourne on Thursday night.
Initial reports were sketchy, but according to the MSN (Mainstream Media), police had attempted to subdue 15 year old Tyler Cassidy with capsicum spray, and then pursued him to the Skate Park where four officers cornered the boy and from 10 to 15 metres away fired six shots into his chest, killing him. As could be predicted, there was an immediate outcry in the MSN (Mainstream Media) about trigger happy, heavy handed police brutality.
Two days later, the MSN have "Updated" the original reports, editing out any outcry about trigger happy police and instead replacing it with new information portraying the boy a "neo-Nazi," "white supremacist," "racist," "gang" member of Southern Cross Soldiers. The MSN then proceeded with a virtual trial by media, finding the boy guilty and sentencing him to death – post mortem. [Continued at https://sacreator.com/2008/12/13/police-murder-white-nationalist-teen]
@Cailen.
Initial reports were sketchy, but according to the MSN (Mainstream Media), police had attempted to subdue 15 year old Tyler Cassidy with capsicum spray, and then pursued him to the Skate Park where four officers cornered the boy and from 10 to 15 metres away fired six shots into his chest, killing him. As could be predicted, there was an immediate outcry in the MSN (Mainstream Media) about trigger happy, heavy handed police brutality.
Two days later, the MSN have "Updated" the original reports, editing out any outcry about trigger happy police and instead replacing it with new information portraying the boy a "neo-Nazi," "white supremacist," "racist," "gang" member of Southern Cross Soldiers. The MSN then proceeded with a virtual trial by media, finding the boy guilty and sentencing him to death – post mortem. [Continued at https://sacreator.com/2008/12/13/police-murder-white-nationalist-teen]
@Cailen.
#3191
Downunder News / Aussie Babies Exposed to TB by Imported [Read: Mud] Doctor
Tue 09 Dec 2008
Tuberculosis is an almost unheard of disease in Australia, but thanks to Adelaide's Women's and Children's Hospital's overuse of imported non-White doctors, TB has returned to bite it in the arse.
Due to the incompetence of immigration authorities, an imported doctor has exposed about 300 babies in the Neo-natal Intensive Care Unit and the Special Care Baby Unit to tuberculosis.
When contacted, the Women's and Children's hospital refused to comment on the country of origin or the racial makeup of the TB riddled quack, but assured concerned parents that the imported doctor is now on sick-leave.
A routine examination of the recently imported doctor by SA Health returned a positive result for TB, not only exposing about 300 Aussie new-borns to TB but also exposing the look-the-other-way attitude of Australian immigration authorities in their over-zealous efforts to re-colonise Australia in a dark demographic.
For babies under 3 months of age, tests for TB are ineffective. A spokesman for the Women's and Children's Hospital offered preventative antibiotics with a screening test at 3 months and a further test at six months.
For more information phone 1800 131 231.
Cailen Cambeul.
Due to the incompetence of immigration authorities, an imported doctor has exposed about 300 babies in the Neo-natal Intensive Care Unit and the Special Care Baby Unit to tuberculosis.
When contacted, the Women's and Children's hospital refused to comment on the country of origin or the racial makeup of the TB riddled quack, but assured concerned parents that the imported doctor is now on sick-leave.
A routine examination of the recently imported doctor by SA Health returned a positive result for TB, not only exposing about 300 Aussie new-borns to TB but also exposing the look-the-other-way attitude of Australian immigration authorities in their over-zealous efforts to re-colonise Australia in a dark demographic.
For babies under 3 months of age, tests for TB are ineffective. A spokesman for the Women's and Children's Hospital offered preventative antibiotics with a screening test at 3 months and a further test at six months.
For more information phone 1800 131 231.
Cailen Cambeul.
#3192
General News / Roman Polanski, Child Molestor, Jew and Hero of Hollywood
Wed 03 Dec 2008
From correspodents in Los Angeles
JEWISH OSCAR-winning film director Roman Polanski asked a Los Angeles court today to dismiss a charge of unlawful sex with a minor brought against him more than 30 years ago, his lawyers said.
Polanski, 75, fled the US in 1978 to avoid serving a prison sentence after entering a guilty plea to a charge of having unlawful sex with a 13-year-old girl.
Like most Heebs Polanski has French citizenship and has lived outside the US since then.
Attorneys for the Red Sea Pedestrian said the charges should be dismissed on the grounds of judicial and prosecutorial misconduct.
The Los Angeles District Attorney's Office had no immediate comment.
Polanski won a best director Oscar in 2003 for his movie The Pianist but did not come to Los Angeles to collect it.
JEWISH OSCAR-winning film director Roman Polanski asked a Los Angeles court today to dismiss a charge of unlawful sex with a minor brought against him more than 30 years ago, his lawyers said.
Polanski, 75, fled the US in 1978 to avoid serving a prison sentence after entering a guilty plea to a charge of having unlawful sex with a 13-year-old girl.
Like most Heebs Polanski has French citizenship and has lived outside the US since then.
Attorneys for the Red Sea Pedestrian said the charges should be dismissed on the grounds of judicial and prosecutorial misconduct.
The Los Angeles District Attorney's Office had no immediate comment.
Polanski won a best director Oscar in 2003 for his movie The Pianist but did not come to Los Angeles to collect it.
#3193
General Jabber / Left Brain vs Right Brain
Tue 02 Dec 2008
THE Right Brain vs Left Brain test ... do you see the dancer turning clockwise or anti-clockwise?
https://creativityalliance.com/forum/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=1667
If clockwise, then you use more of the right side of the brain and vice versa
Most of us would see the dancer turning anti-clockwise though you can try to focus and change the direction; see if you can do it.
LEFT BRAIN FUNCTIONS
uses logic
detail oriented
facts rule
words and language
present and past
math and science
can comprehend
knowing
acknowledges
order/pattern perception
knows object name
reality based
forms strategies
practical
safe
RIGHT BRAIN FUNCTIONS
uses feeling
"big picture" oriented
imagination rules
symbols and images
present and future
philosophy & religion
can "get it" (i.e. meaning)
believes
appreciates
spatial perception
knows object function
fantasy based
presents possibilities
impetuous
risk taking
Warning: If the lady isn't spinning, you either have no brain or need to click on the image.
https://creativityalliance.com/forum/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=1667
If clockwise, then you use more of the right side of the brain and vice versa
Most of us would see the dancer turning anti-clockwise though you can try to focus and change the direction; see if you can do it.
LEFT BRAIN FUNCTIONS
uses logic
detail oriented
facts rule
words and language
present and past
math and science
can comprehend
knowing
acknowledges
order/pattern perception
knows object name
reality based
forms strategies
practical
safe
RIGHT BRAIN FUNCTIONS
uses feeling
"big picture" oriented
imagination rules
symbols and images
present and future
philosophy & religion
can "get it" (i.e. meaning)
believes
appreciates
spatial perception
knows object function
fantasy based
presents possibilities
impetuous
risk taking
Warning: If the lady isn't spinning, you either have no brain or need to click on the image.
#3194
Downunder News / Nazi Flag Flyers Turn Gutless
Tue 21 Oct 2008Quote from: http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,24528824-2682,00.htmlNazi flag flyers admit they made mistake
MATT NEAGLE
October 21, 2008
AN Adelaide man who flew a Nazi flag on his South Rd, Croydon, property has spoken to AdelaideNow about how it was originally put up as a party joke.
But the act has been slammed by RSL national president Bill Crews, who described the act as "sickening".
The Croydon man, who only gave his name as "Will", said the Nazi flag went up as a joke at a "drunken" house party a few weeks ago.
"It's the funniest story around... well I found it funny, apparently the community is not finding it too funny," Will said.
"We meant no offence, just a drunken party, bit of fun, never took the bloody thing down, caused a whole heap of offence, we're sorry about that, but you know..."
When asked by AdelaideNow if he knows the symbolism of the flag, Will replied:
"Not really, no."
Earlier this morning, state Attorney-General Michael Atkinson rode his bike, with an Australian flag attached, onto the the man's property to talk to the resident.
Mr Atkinson told media he spoke to the man and explained to him why the flag is offensive to people in Australia, including Polish immigrants.
He also said to the man it would be best to take the flag down - which was attached to a pole in the man's backyard.
Around 10am, the flag was brought down and replaced with an Australian flag.
Will said Mr Atkinson "told us where we stand, where our legal rights are, and we told him what we wanted, which was not to cause all of this offence in the community, and (that) we wanted to remove the flag and put the Australain flag back up."
Will said he hoped the community could "get past" the incident.
"There's no point to persecute someone for a mistake," he said.
"The Australian (flag's) the one that belongs there, that's why I built the flag pole."
Mr Atkinson earlier told ABC Radio that while the flag was in very bad taste, the issue was one of freedom of expression.
"I assume that the tenants are that one per cent type people who just like to shock and disgust, like they've managed to do,'' he said.
"Unless one can argue that it incites racial hatred, then I suspect it's a matter of free speech, free expression.''
Major General Crews, RSL national president, said the Nazi flag was the symbol of a regime that took the world to war in 1939 costing millions of lives, including those of 40,000 Australian servicemen and women.
"It's quite sickening to hear there are people in the community who are so ignorant and objectionable to fly this flag," Major General Crews said today on Nine.
"Australians will be rightly offended by this and most veterans are grossly offended by it."
Please note AdelaideNow cannot publish comments that are racist or incite hatred.
If that hypocrite of an Attorney General comes bicycling onto my property, I'll spit in his face and throw him out with his wheels wrapped around his neck.
@Cailen.
#3195
General Jabber / Archived Creator Websites
Fri 10 Oct 2008
Bear in mind that our old name is legally (although immorally) owned by an ADL sponsored group and it's illegal for us to use it.
Main Site
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://wcotc.com/
Main Site
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.creator.org/index.html
Legal
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.creator.org/legal/
Australia
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.creator.org/australia
South Australia
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.creator.org/southaustralia
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://wcotc.com/southaustralia
Books, Church Fliers, Media, Awakenings, Contacts, The Struggle and The Facts
Can you complete this list?
@Cailen.
Main Site
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://wcotc.com/
- Dec 12, 1998: http://web.archive.org/web/19981212034002/http://www.wcotc.com/
- Jan 25, 1999: http://web.archive.org/web/19990125104417/http://www.wcotc.com/
- Feb 03, 1999: http://web.archive.org/web/19990203230024/http://www.wcotc.com/
- Feb 08, 1999: http://web.archive.org/web/19990208021338/http://www.wcotc.com/
- Apr 28, 1999: http://web.archive.org/web/19990428003801/http://www.wcotc.com/
- May 05, 1999: http://web.archive.org/web/19990505164030/http://www.wcotc.com/
- Oct 12, 1999: http://web.archive.org/web/19991012204522/http://wcotc.com/
- Oct 23, 1999: http://web.archive.org/web/19991023121117/http://www.wcotc.com/index.html
- Nov 15, 1999: http://web.archive.org/web/19991115060503/http://www.wcotc.com/index.html
- Jan 18, 2000: http://web.archive.org/web/20000118213750/http://wcotc.com/index.html
- Mar 09, 2001: http://web.archive.org/web/20010309084136/http://www.wcotc.com/index.html
- Apr 05, 2001: http://web.archive.org/web/20010405022421/http://www.wcotc.com/index.html
- Oct 19, 2001: http://web.archive.org/web/20011019141425/http://www.wcotc.com/index.html
- Nov 03, 2001: http://web.archive.org/web/20011103175458/http://www.wcotc.com/
- Nov 11, 2001: http://web.archive.org/web/20011111032521/http://www.wcotc.com/
- Dec 02, 2001: http://web.archive.org/web/20011125182125/www.wcotc.com/
- Mar 31, 2002: http://web.archive.org/web/20020524102217/www.wcotc.com/
- May 25, 2002: http://web.archive.org/web/20020524102217/www.wcotc.com/
- Jun 04, 2002: http://web.archive.org/web/20020524102217/www.wcotc.com/
- Sep 23, 2002: http://web.archive.org/web/20020928173058/www.wcotc.com/
- Oct 12, 2002: http://web.archive.org/web/20021012083412/http://www.wcotc.com/
- Nov 27, 2002: http://web.archive.org/web/20021127095237/http://wcotc.com/
Main Site
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.creator.org/index.html
- May 31, 1997: http://web.archive.org/web/19970531205709/http://www.creator.org/index.html
- Jul 01, 2001: http://web.archive.org/web/20010701160303/http://www.creator.org/index.html
- Jan 18, 2000: http://web.archive.org/web/20000118101906/http://creator.org/index.html
- Apr 22, 2000: http://web.archive.org/web/20000422092642/http://creator.org/index.html
- May 06, 2000: http://web.archive.org/web/20000506094335/http://creator.org/index.html
- Jun 14, 2000: http://web.archive.org/web/20000614023158/http://creator.org/index.html
- Nov 18, 2000: http://web.archive.org/web/20001118213800/http://www.creator.org/index.html
- Dec 09, 2000: http://web.archive.org/web/20001209161000/http://creator.org/index.html
- Dec 15, 2000: http://web.archive.org/web/20001215022600/http://www.creator.org/index.html
- Jan 29, 2003: http://web.archive.org/web/20030129190029/http://creator.org/
- Feb 11, 2003: http://web.archive.org/web/20030211142214/http://www.creator.org/
- Mar 23, 2003: http://web.archive.org/web/20030323082159/http://creator.org/
- Apr 07, 2003: http://web.archive.org/web/20030327085611/http://www.creator.org/
- Apr 07, 2003: http://web.archive.org/web/20030407142524/http://www.creator.org/
- Apr 2003: http://web.archive.org/web/20030411151830/www.creator.org/
Legal
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.creator.org/legal/
- Jul 01, 2001: http://web.archive.org/web/20010701161043/http://www.creator.org/legal/
- Jul 07, 2001: http://web.archive.org/web/20010707001354/http://www.creator.org/legal/
- Aug 02, 2001: http://web.archive.org/web/20010802110546/http://www.creator.org/legal/
- Oct 06, 2001: http://web.archive.org/web/20011006143214/http://www.creator.org/legal/
- Dec 11, 2001: http://web.archive.org/web/20011211201209/http://www.creator.org/legal/
- Feb 04, 2002: http://web.archive.org/web/20020204050822/http://www.creator.org/legal/
- Dec 19, 2002: http://web.archive.org/web/20021219100420/http://www.creator.org/legal/
- Apr 16, 2003: http://web.archive.org/web/20030416023732/http://www.creator.org/legal/
Australia
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.creator.org/australia
- Dec 29, 2002: http://web.archive.org/web/20021229045318/http://www.creator.org/australia
- Mar 21, 2003: http://web.archive.org/web/20030321154036/http://www.creator.org/australia
- Apr 27, 2003: http://web.archive.org/web/20030427062624/http://www.creator.org/australia
South Australia
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.creator.org/southaustralia
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://wcotc.com/southaustralia
- Sep 11, 2002: http://web.archive.org/web/20020911071244/http://www.wcotc.com/southaustralia
- Oct 22, 2002: http://web.archive.org/web/20021022133105/http://www.wcotc.com/southaustralia
- Apr 23, 2003: http://web.archive.org/web/20030423122116/http://www.creator.org/southaustralia
- Apr 23, 2003: http://web.archive.org/web/20030410181434/www.creator.org/australia/links.html
- Apr 23, 2003: http://web.archive.org/web/20030410180611/www.creator.org/australia/articles.html
Books, Church Fliers, Media, Awakenings, Contacts, The Struggle and The Facts
- http://web.archive.org/web/20030120165029/www.creator.org/books/zion/index.shtml
- http://web.archive.org/web/20030101090238/www.churchfliers.com/index.shtml
- http://web.archive.org/web/20030416025641/http://www.creator.org/awakenings/
- http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.wcotc.com/contact.html
- http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.creator.org/contact.html
- http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.wcotc.com/struggle.html
- http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.creator.org/struggle.html
- http://web.archive.org/web/20001208210200/creator.org/struggle.html
- http://web.archive.org/web/20001110092300/www.creator.org/facts!/
Can you complete this list?
@Cailen.
#3196
General Jabber / DownunderNewslinks.com Falsely Accused of Breach of Copyright
Fri 03 Oct 2008Quote from: http://www.downundernewslinks.com/Email: staff@downundernewslinks.com
First breach of copyrights notice: From the ABC on September 26, 2008 @ 10:25 am
Second breach of copyrights notice: From Fairfax Media on September 30, 2008 @ 16:27 pm
Fairfax Media sent their email notice four days after Downunder Newslinks was put in Maintenance Mode...
Copyright Infringement emails will be posted here soon!
Due to current events the DNL news section will be offline for a while.
More information may be available from: http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php/downunder-newslinks-309626p3.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_copyright_law#Fair_dealing_and_other_exceptions
I'm keeping an eye on this as we may be next on their hitlist.
@Cailen.
#3197
General News / Belief in God childish, Jews not chosen people: Einstein
Fri 03 Oct 2008Quote from: http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/05/14/2243953.htmBelief in God childish, Jews not chosen people: Einstein
Posted Wed May 14, 2008 7:00am AEST
Albert Einstein described belief in God as "childish superstition" and said Jews were not the chosen people, in a letter to be sold in London this week, an auctioneer said.
The father of relativity, whose previously known views on religion have been more ambivalent and fuelled much discussion, made the comments in response to a philosopher in 1954.
As a Jew himself, Einstein said he had a great affinity with Jewish people but said they "have no different quality for me than all other people."
"The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish.
"No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this," he wrote in the letter written on January 3, 1954 to the philosopher Eric Gutkind, cited by The Guardian newspaper.
The German-language letter is being sold Thursday by Bloomsbury Auctions in Mayfair, London, after being in a private collection for more than 50 years, said the auction house's managing director Rupert Powell.
In it the renowned scientist, who declined an invitation to become Israel's second president, rejected the idea that the Jews are God's chosen people.
"For me the Jewish religion like all others is an incarnation of the most childish superstitions," he said.
"And the Jewish people to whom I gladly belong and with whose mentality I have a deep affinity have no different quality for me than all other people."
And he added: "As far as my experience goes, although they are protected from the worst cancers by a lack of power. Otherwise I cannot see anything 'chosen' about them."
Previously the great scientist's comments on religion - such as "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind" - have been the subject of much debate, used notably to back up arguments in favour of faith.
Mr Powell said the letter being sold this week gave a clear reflection of Einstein's real thoughts on the subject. "He's fairly unequivocal as to what he's saying. There's no beating about the bush," he said.
There's the first evidence I have ever seen of Einstein having said something intelligent. And I'd totally written him off as a know-nothing jewish plagiarist.
@Cailen.
#3198
General News / Moses high on Mt Sinai: Israeli study
Fri 03 Oct 2008Quote from: http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/03/04/2179961.htm
Posted Tue Mar 4, 2008 11:39pm AEDT
Updated Wed Mar 5, 2008 8:12am AEDT
Moses was on psychedelic drugs when he heard God deliver the Ten Commandments on Mount Sinai, an Israeli researcher claimed in a study published this week.
Such mind-altering substances formed an integral part of the religious rites of Israelites in biblical times, Benny Shanon, a professor of cognitive psychology at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem wrote in the Time and Mind journal of philosophy.
"As far as Moses on Mount Sinai is concerned, it was either a supernatural cosmic event, which I don't believe, or a legend, which I don't believe either, or finally, and this is very probable, an event that joined Moses and the people of Israel under the effect of narcotics," Dr Shanon told Israeli public radio.
Something to quote whenever we are accused of jew or christinsane bashing by the believing bretheren of the biblical babble.
@Cailen.
#3199
Downunder News / SA State Premier Hopes to Influence NZ Anti-Gang Laws
Mon 29 Sep 2008
If this law is introduced in NZ, it will mean that the NZ government will be able to declare any group to be an outlawed criminal gang - that includes Creators.
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,24418309-5006301,00.html
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,24418309-5006301,00.html
QuoteCRIMINAL gangs should be viewed as the equivalent of terrorists in our society, Premier Mike Rann said in Auckland today.
The New Zealand Government is considering legislation to ban criminal gangs in the face of a growing methamphetamine trade and gang activity.
The plan has come under fire from opposition lawmakers, who accuse the Government of doing too little too late to control gangs.
Mr Rann met Corrections Minister Phil Goff and Minister of Justice and Police Annette King, in Auckland this morning, to discuss the anti-gang legislation introduced in South Australia in July.
New Zealand is considering introducing similar legislation.
New Zealand police figures showed 75 per cent of those caught making or trafficking methamphetamine were gang members or gang associates.
The legislation has proved controversial in Australian, coming under fire from many quarters, a fact Mr Rann made no apologies for.
"Is it draconian? Yes. Do I think it's necessary? Yes," he said.
The South Australian law gives Attorney-General Michael Atkinson the power to declare a gang a criminal organisation.
Criminal gangs had to be considered as "terrorists within", Mr Rann said.
Mr Rann said he visited the FBI in Washington DC several years ago for a briefing on how to deal with criminal gangs, which was pivotal in the development of the state's legislation.
The biggest lesson from the visit was the realisation that to deal with gangs you had to "follow the money tree", he said.
Mr Rann's comments were echoed in a combined press-conference with Mr Goff and Ms King, where the ministers also defended the Government's record of action against gangs.
Mr Goff said if similar legislation were passed in New Zealand it would compliment two pieces of legislation already before Parliament, both designed to disrupt criminal activity by gangs.
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QuoteGirl faces trial over carved swastika on hip
September 17, 2008 12:49am
Article from: Reutershttp://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24359226-663,00.htmlDead Link.
A GERMAN teenager accused of engraving a swastika into her hip and blaming the injury on right-wing militants has gone on trial in eastern Germany.
The 18-year-old, known only as Rebecca K., had last year been hailed as a local hero when she reported saving a five-year-old from being pushed and shoved by four neo-Nazi youths, risking her own safety and subsequently being attacked herself.
Despite public outrage and a promised police reward of €5000 ($7096) for any witnesses or evidence, nobody was able to back up her statements.
"We have often had cases where individuals fake a chargeable offence, but this one is extraordinary," said Lutz Hasselmann, spokesman for the district court of Hainichen, near the eastern city of Chemnitz.
The girl became a local celebrity and was awarded an honorary medal for exceptional courage after she told police about the attack, which she said included cutting a swastika into the skin of her hip with a scalpel-like object.
Nazi symbols, including swastikas, are banned in Germany.
The girl had accused members of 'Sturm 34', a right-wing organisation which was last year banned by the state of Saxony, where far-right groups are particularly strong.
Hasselmann said the lack of evidence caused prosecutors to doubt the young woman's account.
She is charged with making false accusations and lying to the police and public authorities, in a trial expected to last until mid-October.
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