R! My White Brothers and Sisters. I am a prisoner of the JOG.
To describe my incarceration, Arabs attacked our group on the East Coast America, and I shot one; but I did not kill or permanently incapacitate it. For that, I got 40 years.
This was an introduction to CREATOR FORUM via phone from America to Australia via CREATIVITY'S SHOTCALLER @Rev.Cambeul
I intend to write so that I may wake up our fellow White Man and Woman. Just as you do.
RaHoWa!
23/23
@Br.AnthonyS
To Brother A.
USA
Racial Greetings. Creator.org has not existed since 2006. A skinhead from TCM attempted to profit from it and instead lost it without getting a penny. We later shut down their gang.
I have not checked on you, but wherever you are getting your information, it is wrong. [SNIPPED CONTENT]
As I am in Australia, I am limited as to how much contact I can personally have with American prisoners. You are lucky that I can use JPay.com to correspond with you, or you would have to rely on the kindness of others to post for me in America. At a minimum of a month and typically at two months (with three months at Xmas), communication by snail mail is difficult.
I'll also pass your name and details to others with the Church that can be trusted. You may or may not receive a letter, or they may use Jpay themselves.
The following information is given for legal reasons. Be sure to remember it.
Our Church is called the Church of Creativity. Our organisation is the Creativity Alliance. The WCOTC ceased to exist in January of 2003, when the name was given to a front-group run by the ADL. The skinhead group formerly known as The Creativity Movement was ended some years ago. Some of their members turned rat and remain in prison today under Fed protection.
I can see from your letter that I still have a lot of questions to answer for you. We'll deal with them over time, and I'll decide whether or not to add you to the Prison Portal as a Brother Behind Bars.
I'm sure I'll hear back from you soon. So, R! 23 Words.
@Cailen.
Rev. Cailen Cambeul
Church Administrator – Creativity Alliance
Church of Creativity South Australia
I just sent money $23 to A. using JPay
From Brother A.
Hello and thank you for the money, What a pleasant suprise! I was certainly suprised to hear back as well. From what I had heard out there, you guys seemed almost non existent.
You are right, I have a lot of questions, and I'm sure you have some as well.
I'll just start with a couple and we can take it from there.
So it seems, based on your email that this organization/group/ "church" is most closely aligned with the skin head scene, as well as being quite known within the prisons as well is that the case?
This combined with the fact that the P.M. is currently in prison would seem to give the impression that this is a more "Underground" group if you know what I mean... Is this a fair assessment, or do you have many "Square" members out there as well?
I dont want to sound too harsh here, however I have to be upfront in saying it seems to be a different scene/path than what Ben Klassen would most likely have pictured for the movement, At least based upon what I read in Natures eternal religion.
I was surprised to hear that you guys are somewhat popular in the prisons, as I have not heard anyone mention it before, which is what I was hoping to do in time to a few select people. I am the type who sets things in motion, perhaps like a Dietrick Eckart in Nazi terms... If that makes sense, haha.
Of course I have only been in MN state so I'm not too worldly in that respect. This is also known as a P.C./ lame state system and I'm by no means a big shot over here, or the leader type but I plan on taking a "Johnny Appleseed" approach over time if you're familiar with that analogy.
In a way it kind of makes my goal a bit easier as I am sure I will eventually come across those who are already familiar or have heard of the church.
I'll also have to admit that I am quite new to all of this. Before I came to prison I was an average Joe out there, not into any racial stuff, just money and having fun.
However, upon my awakening while in here I have been fully "red pilled" and have spent the last four years educating myself at an exponential rate. I am quite knowledgeable in the big picture/ world view, (more so than 99% of those who should know), but am still quite lacking in the local social sphere such as organizations/ groups or scenes etc.
I am apparently quite the intellectual, yet socially standoffish.
Now I do have an important request of you.
As far as posting my name out there online for people to see or whatnot, I will have to ask that for the time being you do not do so.
If you look me up on Google you will probably see why, All I will say is that the headline reads "39 years in racial shooting"
The last thing I need anytime soon is unwanted attention, I realize that you may all use encryptions and secure networks and whatnot, but nothing is airtight and I desire to stay off the radar for now.
I hope you can understand. If you have some select trusted members who would like to mail me, that would be alright. I just cannot get into speaking about my case for now. Anyone who understands U.S. law and society here knows why. My lawyer has advised me on this.
It was good to hear from you, and thank you again! I hope to a hear back soon.
Also, if you could attach another prepaid reply that would be great, it will be almost two weeks for my purchase to go through the system. Thanks!
p.s.- I don't know their politics, but I do know that the metal band "parkway drive" is real good I got them on my tablet here. Apparently they are out of Australia. Byron bay or something like that. You heard of em?
Anthony
Reply From Rev.Cambeul
No worries. $23 isn't much, but it helps.
What is good for the White Race is of the Highest Virtue;
What is bad for the White Race is the Ultimate Sin. 23 Words.
So, to answer your question, No. Creativity is in no way aligned with the skinhead scene any more. The skinheads caused problems - which is bad enough; but when they decided that Creativity was only going to be skinhead so the rest of us had to go, they had to go. Skinheads don't join the Church to become White Rights Activists. They join to wear patches, get together as a gang, and wallow in their own victimisation - because everything they don't like that happens to them occurs because the world hates skinheads ... so they believe. They lie, cheat, steal and denounce out of hand... dealing with skinheads is like an endless daytime soap opera filled with kindergarten bullies. We call them wiggas with swastikas. Of course, not all skins are as bad as that, but that is their overlying culture as a group. I'm sure you see why we had to get rid of them.
PM Joe and I are both former soldiers and former outlaw bikers (that's why we understood and were able to deal with the skinhead problem). There are other Creators that are bikers, former skinheads, former and serving soldiers, factory workers, business men and women, shop keepers, garbage men. Some are hard men; some are squares as you said. Some are dedicated, some are just hang arounds. Some are in the open, others are underground. Creators are free and in prison. Creators range in age from 8 to 88. Creators cover the full spectrum of White Society - without the obvious unwanted elements ... as well as no police, no serving military officers, and no psychiatrists or psychologists. Actually, all in that last group are quite useful to recruit, but none can be trusted. And those that are honest with us risk losing their careers. We'd rather have Church Supporters working in their chosen fields, than Church Members out of work and of no use to anyone with their lives destroyed.
Every state is a P.C./ lame state system. The only I'm such a big shot in Creativity is because I did what all Creators should do: Make an effort where they can, however they can. That's all I did. I eventually ended up as PM, but after seven years, I handed the title over to PM Joe, and accepted the title Church Administrator for myself. While PM Joe is in prison, I still lead the Church, but I do so out of necessity, not desire. We jokingly refer to me as The Shotcaller. As you probably have already guessed, we have to emphasise my overall control over the Church, because even falsely allowing people to believe that Joe is the Shotcaller of Creativity would become a problem for him where he is. For now, it's his job to wear the title, but no responsibility. Until he is free in 23, PM Joe's only job is advice and encouragement.
As for me, I have nothing to lose. The JOG have already learned that. They pester me every now and again, but I can always dismiss them as harmless. They know I've lost my family and am not permitted to work - all because of them. They know I have nothing to lose, so when I tell them that if they try to lock me up or shut down the Church, we will all go underground, and we will cease to obey their laws, and we will act only on our own morals. It helps that we have a rule in the Church that states: "The Church of Creativity is a Professional, Non-Violent, Progressive Pro-White Religion. We promote White Civil Rights, White Self-Determination, and White Liberation via 100% legal activism. We do not promote, tolerate nor incite illegal activity." That page is at the bottom of every page on our website and forum - that's thousands of pages. The JOG understand that we are our own police, judge and jury. They try to deny it and claim that we have rights, but we scoff at their bullshit platitudes of legality. We are outlaws and we know it. There is however one concession they begged me to make: If we were to recruit some type of nutter that wants to go around murdering innocents, they want us to hand them straight over. I said No. Sometimes the White Man's Mind just needs straightened out. So, we will always handle it ourselves; BUT, if we decide that the nutter in question is outside our ability to control and innocent people will be at risk, then we'll hand them over. I used the analogy of the Hells Angels handing over paedophiles to the police - which the JOG readily accepted. In return, they (like a state version of the FBI) keep the ordinary state police and Feds (whom see us as easy marks for fame and promotion) off of our backs. Since we don't break any of their laws, why shouldn't they do that much for us? They've held to their promise since 2006, so that's something at least.
I too have been described as an intellectual - but that's a typical trait of the best Creators. I never went to university, and didn't even finish high school. My point though is that when skinheads thought they ruled Creativity, they typically insulted and denounced people that could read and write as university graduates that must be thrown out. These days, those types, skinhead or not don't even make it past their initial six months as Prospective Church Members.
After I sent the first email, I checked you out. I know what's up. I've seen it before. Let's just say that a Creator shot and killed a black person in self defence back in the mid 90's. The black person was trying to murder him. He got 25 years non-parole, sentenced to life. It's been near thirty years and there's no chance he's getting out sooner, or later. Another time, on the long ago sold off NC Creator property in the 80's, some strangers showed up in the middle of the night. They were overheard talking of bombing the buildings and shooting Creators. A Creator showed up and did what you did. He got seven years - none wounded or killed. Creators have a history of imprisonment going back to 73. However, since I took charge in 2003, no Creator (except for one) has been imprisoned for more than a couple of weeks for some bogus petty offence. The exeption was a Creator who's wife was raped by a skinhead from one of those typical skinhead gangs you probably know about. He's doing 90 years now. So yeah, I know how the US law system works. Same shit different country here in Australia. I know what you're up against and how to deal with it so we don't influence anything negatively on your behalf.
A trusted Church Member in MN who comes from the area you are currently living has been appraised, and should be in contact sooner or later. Just to be sure, that's not a hint you have to decipher - he is not in prison and has never been to prison. I'll also forward him a copy your letter to me and my reply. It'll save both of you some time skipping explanations. To describe the brother, he's the Official Church Artist, and could be described as a truck driving intellectual.
If you want, I can set up a forum account in your name ... and by that I expect you to use a Nom de Guerre. Pick a realistic name that you can identify with. Any messages, lessons, stories or poetry you have for Creators, we can publish them.
Parkway Drive. I didn't know of them before you mentioned them, so I looked on YouTube. Their singing and gestures verge on c-rap style, but their music sounds good and many songs have a different style of singing I can tolerate. If you want real Australian hard rock, try Rose Tattoo. They've been around since the 70's, and are/were contemporaries of AC/DC. They're a lot harder than AC/DC.
YouTube Search Links Not Included in Actual Message
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Parkway+Drive
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Rose+Tattoo
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=AC/DC
OK, that about covers it for today. Look after yourself. I look forward to your next letter.
RaHoWa! 23 Words.
@Cailen.
From Brother A.
I am quite relieved to hear the overall stance on the skinhead scene. I could not have described them better myself... To be honest, I would decide not to be involved in any group that deals with skinheads at all. Hopefully for everyone truly concerned with fundamental creativity, it stays that way.
The next issue I have to asses would be the likelihood of, for example one day being served a federal indictment via the U.S Rico act for being associated/ involved with the group. Of course I'm no lawyer, but I know that "ignorance is no excuse" whether I am directly involved in anything illegal or not. The last thing I want is for them to be able to throw away the key while I am still in here.
I also don't want to come off as a total square either. I am where I am...
However, realizing that this is a two way street it may be decided by either myself or the group that its best for me to not be involved for the time being. After all, I am in prison and unable to "do" much about anything for the next twenty years. I will be 52 years of age in 2042 upon my release. I should still have the ability to be an able bodied participant in any endeavor at that point and I intend to see it stays that way.
There is much consideration yet to be made on both sides needless to say. I'm sure you have a better idea on what's best than I do, since you have complete knowledge about the group.
Ultimately, my mission while inside is to become engaged with a group of professionals who are ideologically similar folk in order to network/build contacts before my eventual release as well as recruit and educate others in here of a similar or higher caliber than myself for the same reasons.
As long as this group can be an asset and not a liability in the fulfilment of my mission, and i am able to provide the same to the group in return then I am still quite interested.
Now you have mentioned that since you took a leadership role in the group since 2003, no one has been imprisoned. I'm assuming that would exclude the shitheads (skinheads) of TCM... any others? How about the PM Joe? May I ask his story? Also, you used Dr. in front of his name. I'm assuming this means he has a PhD from a university? Esposito must be an Italian or Spanish name right?
Its good to hear there is some intellect and class diversity behind the group here, I would have been bummed if this was just another group of hooligans who just bro out all day. I am definitely of the activist persuasion and it sounds like this group has good potential. I would love to have some philosophical conversations with you and others if possible sooner or later.
As far as my own forum account goes, that would be cool! I would probably make a better blogger than a poet. I also have a list of what I would consider essential reading and a couple sites where most of their PDF's can be found for free. Perhaps many have heard of these before, or maybe there is already something similar on the site. I also have a small piece I could do on the Ukrainian neo Nazi dilemma and how it is in our best interest to not get involved on the front lines as some western based "Neo Nazi" groups are.
I am excited to hear that a local member will be able to chat as well! Feel free to forward him our conversations so we are all on the same page.
I plan on putting the money you sent me to good use, I will be purchasing another copy of Nature's Eternal Religion to utilize as a loner when the day comes that I run across a guy in here who seems receptive to the ideology. So far I have found and read Nature's Eternal Religion, Expanding Creativity and The Little White Book online, however I have not been able to find any of the others. It sounded like you may have some of them on PDF on the Creativity Alliance site, but as I am in prison I would either need someone to print them and mail me or find a verifiable vendor to purchase from. The prison won't allow a book sent from a private individual.
As far as Parkway Drive goes, they are a bit odd in that a couple of their albums are almost an entirely different genre and yes a few of their songs are a bit borderline metal rap. I would suggest "Sleight of Hand" on their album "Atlas" its a song with lyrics that should resonate with some of us. Overall they make for good workout music if nothing else.
Well, it was good to hear from you, I have been a little slow to respond due to being locked in for almost the last four days due to our Thanksgiving holiday here.
Again, until about 7-10 days from now I won't have the stamps on my account yet until they are processed so if you can attach a prepaid reply that would be quicker in the meantime.
Thanks again!
Anthony
Reply from @Rev.Cambeul
It'll definitely stay that way - No skinheads, that is. They began interfering with Creativity in the early 80's and didn't stop until we put a stop to them. We'd have to be suicidal to allow them back in any way at all.
RICO is about criminal gangs making money from illegal sources. The first point is that we don't allow criminal activity. The second is that we don't make money. As long as I have been running things, I've had the Australian Tax Office on my back looking for an excuse to lock me up for tax evasion. When you run things at a loss, that's no longer a problem. When PM Joe is free and takes over, once he settles down in a place to live, I'll show him what to buy, how to buy it, how to get it made ... Flags, patches, shirts, books, pamphlets .... Then instead of selling everything at cost and using the payments of the website to make sure we are running at a loss, he can bump up the prices. The business is organised: The manufacturers, printers and suppliers are all in place. It will all be above board, taxable if need be under IRS law. The Australian Tax Office and RICO can go and get F!
You're talking about being 52 in 42? I'll be 72. LOL! The best Creators are the older Creators. It's what helps us not make the same mistakes that every little group makes and repeats when they form.
For example, every now and again some bunch of young twats start their own COTC group and tell us that they are doing it right. Their first mistake is to use a name that will get them and us a fine of $1000 per day. Probably three times that by now. Their second is to make public statements about how they are the ONLY and REAL COTC, while they mix it up with Christinsanity, Odinism, and Judaism or Islam (it's always one side or the other), and recognise indigenous rights. It's what we call "big tent" methodology in order to snag in everybody they can. They have absolutely no connection to Ben Klassen in any way at all, so they do not understand how Creativity has evolved. They edit our Holy Books for their own purposes. They also talk about registering their group as a business ... but by that time, we've found them and shut them down. If they are not a problem, they are invited to join us. We've picked up a few that way. Most drop Creativity from their big tent methods and embrace aliens in space or some weird shit. Most of the time they are just loonies looking for a way to profit from moronic disciples. They are always 25 years and younger.
Then there's the women's groups. The Sisterhood of the Church or whatever you want to make up. They begin by separating men from women when we do not discriminate against women. Then they turn their Sisterhood into nothing more than a type of kindergarten. They want support from the males and try to play one off against the other as the women fight it out to decide whose to be the supreme woman. That's what happens behind the scenes with every women's group. We know and just will not allow it again. If a woman wants to become a Reverend, all she needs to be is a good Creator.
Above all, people forget that Creativity is a religion. We don't need to make things up, to spookify Creativity. We don't need to unite with other religions. We don't need to embrace other traditions. We don't need to sponsor a kindergarten or a cooking cult. Without intending it, Creativity is by its essence multicultural - as in different White Cultures from different White Nations. Creator Nations. (Diversity is our Strength? LOL! I don't think so.)
Australia and America - for example - both have a similar colonial history originating from the same British source. But Italy, Greece, Serbia, France, Germany ... and the rest all have their linguistical and cultural differences. Germans are wary of too much WWI/II stuff because of their laws. Croatians love the WWII era and are bogged down in it. Serbians don't care for it. Italians ignore the wars and embrace Roman styles, Greeks embrace Hellenic styles. Italian and Greek brothers and sisters understand today the problems of nations being overrun because they have lived on the borders of Europe for millennia. French Creators are either Napoleonic or Royalist. British prefer their Empire memories. Americans and Australians stick with the colonial winning of a continent style. The thing is, it's our Holy Books and morals as Creators that unite us. That is how religion is supposed to work.
The skinheads of TCM were different. They dumped the religious aspects of Creativity, accepted it as their gang regalia only, and promoted petty criminality. If you had joined TCM back in 2003, and then you'd done what you did, they would have called you a hero up until the moment you were arrested. Then to make themselves look good in the media, they would have turned on you and denounced you. It was a common habit of theirs. I'm still in touch with one of theirs today @Rev.JoelDufresne where that happened. That's why he came to us and we have supported him for the last fifteen years. There are plenty of Creators in prison from before my time. If they are honourable men, we treat them with honour. Some are in for non-crimes, others are in because they committed a crime. Many often receive extended sentences because they are Creators. One is in for 40 years because the FBI got involved in a custody battle and saw a way to lock up the Creator. Another is doing over a thousand years because his warden illegally stole his WMB - he was already in for life for shooting drug dealers. Another got 25 years for self defence and will not likely ever get out.
PM Joe was convicted of manslaughter. Accidental death during a fight over a business deal gone wrong. He's in his sixties now. 16 years older than me. He knows he cannot live that type of life any more. It was his own fault he got locked up and he knows it. If he thought otherwise, I would have chosen somebody else to be PM.
And my choices were limited. I wanted somebody that knew Ben Klassen personally. There were other candidates, but Joe was the best candidate. His criminal record was not important to me, but prison time is an experience that can help other Creators.
Yes, Esposito is Italian. PM Joe comes from the Bronx area of NYC. That was a new accent for me to get used to over the phone. If you've ever seen that movie/documentary put out by 81, Hells Angels Forever, you may remember a huge greasy ex US Marine, Italian as Sgt at Arms. That's PM Joe's cousin, Big Vinnie. That's PM Joe's background prior to Creativity.
Reverend Doctors: We award the Doctorate for services rendered, while taking into account their knowledge of Creativity. It's an honorary award.
We have all the books on PDF. And over time we are editing them, getting them perfect - PDF's from the 90's are always pretty badly done. One example is Salubrious Living. It's a short book if you want someone to copy it for you. Retyped, pictures added, corrections made, comments made where the author (not Ben Klassen) got it wrong, new cover designs. All ready to print. The Little White Book. The version you read from TCM was copied from ours and then edited to remove/change certain aspects. We however just made corrections so the PDF matched the original booklet, then we added to it - made it useful for any Creator to carry. And we added the Creativity Handbook, which is about a hundred pages long. There is always work to do on the PDF's ....
I just spent $3K redoing my car's suspension. It's a GM Australia V6. You'd call it a Pontiac. My dog, who died last year at age 17, was named N.... Rhymes with Digger. Anyway, she thought it was a Cadillac. PONTIAC = Poor Old N. Thinks It's A Cadillac. It's not a fancy car, but it's mine. One of the few items I have left after my time in the army. So, instead of replacing it every few years and spending a few grand on it, I save the money and repair/replace/rebuild something. The point is, now that the suspension is done, I'll not have to worry about money as much as I was. I'm not rich, but I survive and that's all that counts. I'm in much the same position as you are in that respect. However, no matter how bad off I am, I know that you are worse. Even if it takes me an extra two weeks, I will always have the money for stamps.
Until next time. R! 23/23
@Cailen.
To describe my incarceration, Arabs attacked our group on the East Coast America, and I shot one; but I did not kill or permanently incapacitate it. For that, I got 40 years.
This was an introduction to CREATOR FORUM via phone from America to Australia via CREATIVITY'S SHOTCALLER @Rev.Cambeul
I intend to write so that I may wake up our fellow White Man and Woman. Just as you do.
RaHoWa!
23/23
@Br.AnthonyS
To Brother A.
USA
Racial Greetings. Creator.org has not existed since 2006. A skinhead from TCM attempted to profit from it and instead lost it without getting a penny. We later shut down their gang.
I have not checked on you, but wherever you are getting your information, it is wrong. [SNIPPED CONTENT]
As I am in Australia, I am limited as to how much contact I can personally have with American prisoners. You are lucky that I can use JPay.com to correspond with you, or you would have to rely on the kindness of others to post for me in America. At a minimum of a month and typically at two months (with three months at Xmas), communication by snail mail is difficult.
I'll also pass your name and details to others with the Church that can be trusted. You may or may not receive a letter, or they may use Jpay themselves.
The following information is given for legal reasons. Be sure to remember it.
Our Church is called the Church of Creativity. Our organisation is the Creativity Alliance. The WCOTC ceased to exist in January of 2003, when the name was given to a front-group run by the ADL. The skinhead group formerly known as The Creativity Movement was ended some years ago. Some of their members turned rat and remain in prison today under Fed protection.
I can see from your letter that I still have a lot of questions to answer for you. We'll deal with them over time, and I'll decide whether or not to add you to the Prison Portal as a Brother Behind Bars.
I'm sure I'll hear back from you soon. So, R! 23 Words.
@Cailen.
Rev. Cailen Cambeul
Church Administrator – Creativity Alliance
Church of Creativity South Australia
I just sent money $23 to A. using JPay
From Brother A.
Hello and thank you for the money, What a pleasant suprise! I was certainly suprised to hear back as well. From what I had heard out there, you guys seemed almost non existent.
You are right, I have a lot of questions, and I'm sure you have some as well.
I'll just start with a couple and we can take it from there.
So it seems, based on your email that this organization/group/ "church" is most closely aligned with the skin head scene, as well as being quite known within the prisons as well is that the case?
This combined with the fact that the P.M. is currently in prison would seem to give the impression that this is a more "Underground" group if you know what I mean... Is this a fair assessment, or do you have many "Square" members out there as well?
I dont want to sound too harsh here, however I have to be upfront in saying it seems to be a different scene/path than what Ben Klassen would most likely have pictured for the movement, At least based upon what I read in Natures eternal religion.
I was surprised to hear that you guys are somewhat popular in the prisons, as I have not heard anyone mention it before, which is what I was hoping to do in time to a few select people. I am the type who sets things in motion, perhaps like a Dietrick Eckart in Nazi terms... If that makes sense, haha.
Of course I have only been in MN state so I'm not too worldly in that respect. This is also known as a P.C./ lame state system and I'm by no means a big shot over here, or the leader type but I plan on taking a "Johnny Appleseed" approach over time if you're familiar with that analogy.
In a way it kind of makes my goal a bit easier as I am sure I will eventually come across those who are already familiar or have heard of the church.
I'll also have to admit that I am quite new to all of this. Before I came to prison I was an average Joe out there, not into any racial stuff, just money and having fun.
However, upon my awakening while in here I have been fully "red pilled" and have spent the last four years educating myself at an exponential rate. I am quite knowledgeable in the big picture/ world view, (more so than 99% of those who should know), but am still quite lacking in the local social sphere such as organizations/ groups or scenes etc.
I am apparently quite the intellectual, yet socially standoffish.
Now I do have an important request of you.
As far as posting my name out there online for people to see or whatnot, I will have to ask that for the time being you do not do so.
If you look me up on Google you will probably see why, All I will say is that the headline reads "39 years in racial shooting"
The last thing I need anytime soon is unwanted attention, I realize that you may all use encryptions and secure networks and whatnot, but nothing is airtight and I desire to stay off the radar for now.
I hope you can understand. If you have some select trusted members who would like to mail me, that would be alright. I just cannot get into speaking about my case for now. Anyone who understands U.S. law and society here knows why. My lawyer has advised me on this.
It was good to hear from you, and thank you again! I hope to a hear back soon.
Also, if you could attach another prepaid reply that would be great, it will be almost two weeks for my purchase to go through the system. Thanks!
p.s.- I don't know their politics, but I do know that the metal band "parkway drive" is real good I got them on my tablet here. Apparently they are out of Australia. Byron bay or something like that. You heard of em?
Anthony
Reply From Rev.Cambeul
No worries. $23 isn't much, but it helps.
What is good for the White Race is of the Highest Virtue;
What is bad for the White Race is the Ultimate Sin. 23 Words.
So, to answer your question, No. Creativity is in no way aligned with the skinhead scene any more. The skinheads caused problems - which is bad enough; but when they decided that Creativity was only going to be skinhead so the rest of us had to go, they had to go. Skinheads don't join the Church to become White Rights Activists. They join to wear patches, get together as a gang, and wallow in their own victimisation - because everything they don't like that happens to them occurs because the world hates skinheads ... so they believe. They lie, cheat, steal and denounce out of hand... dealing with skinheads is like an endless daytime soap opera filled with kindergarten bullies. We call them wiggas with swastikas. Of course, not all skins are as bad as that, but that is their overlying culture as a group. I'm sure you see why we had to get rid of them.
PM Joe and I are both former soldiers and former outlaw bikers (that's why we understood and were able to deal with the skinhead problem). There are other Creators that are bikers, former skinheads, former and serving soldiers, factory workers, business men and women, shop keepers, garbage men. Some are hard men; some are squares as you said. Some are dedicated, some are just hang arounds. Some are in the open, others are underground. Creators are free and in prison. Creators range in age from 8 to 88. Creators cover the full spectrum of White Society - without the obvious unwanted elements ... as well as no police, no serving military officers, and no psychiatrists or psychologists. Actually, all in that last group are quite useful to recruit, but none can be trusted. And those that are honest with us risk losing their careers. We'd rather have Church Supporters working in their chosen fields, than Church Members out of work and of no use to anyone with their lives destroyed.
Every state is a P.C./ lame state system. The only I'm such a big shot in Creativity is because I did what all Creators should do: Make an effort where they can, however they can. That's all I did. I eventually ended up as PM, but after seven years, I handed the title over to PM Joe, and accepted the title Church Administrator for myself. While PM Joe is in prison, I still lead the Church, but I do so out of necessity, not desire. We jokingly refer to me as The Shotcaller. As you probably have already guessed, we have to emphasise my overall control over the Church, because even falsely allowing people to believe that Joe is the Shotcaller of Creativity would become a problem for him where he is. For now, it's his job to wear the title, but no responsibility. Until he is free in 23, PM Joe's only job is advice and encouragement.
As for me, I have nothing to lose. The JOG have already learned that. They pester me every now and again, but I can always dismiss them as harmless. They know I've lost my family and am not permitted to work - all because of them. They know I have nothing to lose, so when I tell them that if they try to lock me up or shut down the Church, we will all go underground, and we will cease to obey their laws, and we will act only on our own morals. It helps that we have a rule in the Church that states: "The Church of Creativity is a Professional, Non-Violent, Progressive Pro-White Religion. We promote White Civil Rights, White Self-Determination, and White Liberation via 100% legal activism. We do not promote, tolerate nor incite illegal activity." That page is at the bottom of every page on our website and forum - that's thousands of pages. The JOG understand that we are our own police, judge and jury. They try to deny it and claim that we have rights, but we scoff at their bullshit platitudes of legality. We are outlaws and we know it. There is however one concession they begged me to make: If we were to recruit some type of nutter that wants to go around murdering innocents, they want us to hand them straight over. I said No. Sometimes the White Man's Mind just needs straightened out. So, we will always handle it ourselves; BUT, if we decide that the nutter in question is outside our ability to control and innocent people will be at risk, then we'll hand them over. I used the analogy of the Hells Angels handing over paedophiles to the police - which the JOG readily accepted. In return, they (like a state version of the FBI) keep the ordinary state police and Feds (whom see us as easy marks for fame and promotion) off of our backs. Since we don't break any of their laws, why shouldn't they do that much for us? They've held to their promise since 2006, so that's something at least.
I too have been described as an intellectual - but that's a typical trait of the best Creators. I never went to university, and didn't even finish high school. My point though is that when skinheads thought they ruled Creativity, they typically insulted and denounced people that could read and write as university graduates that must be thrown out. These days, those types, skinhead or not don't even make it past their initial six months as Prospective Church Members.
After I sent the first email, I checked you out. I know what's up. I've seen it before. Let's just say that a Creator shot and killed a black person in self defence back in the mid 90's. The black person was trying to murder him. He got 25 years non-parole, sentenced to life. It's been near thirty years and there's no chance he's getting out sooner, or later. Another time, on the long ago sold off NC Creator property in the 80's, some strangers showed up in the middle of the night. They were overheard talking of bombing the buildings and shooting Creators. A Creator showed up and did what you did. He got seven years - none wounded or killed. Creators have a history of imprisonment going back to 73. However, since I took charge in 2003, no Creator (except for one) has been imprisoned for more than a couple of weeks for some bogus petty offence. The exeption was a Creator who's wife was raped by a skinhead from one of those typical skinhead gangs you probably know about. He's doing 90 years now. So yeah, I know how the US law system works. Same shit different country here in Australia. I know what you're up against and how to deal with it so we don't influence anything negatively on your behalf.
A trusted Church Member in MN who comes from the area you are currently living has been appraised, and should be in contact sooner or later. Just to be sure, that's not a hint you have to decipher - he is not in prison and has never been to prison. I'll also forward him a copy your letter to me and my reply. It'll save both of you some time skipping explanations. To describe the brother, he's the Official Church Artist, and could be described as a truck driving intellectual.
If you want, I can set up a forum account in your name ... and by that I expect you to use a Nom de Guerre. Pick a realistic name that you can identify with. Any messages, lessons, stories or poetry you have for Creators, we can publish them.
Parkway Drive. I didn't know of them before you mentioned them, so I looked on YouTube. Their singing and gestures verge on c-rap style, but their music sounds good and many songs have a different style of singing I can tolerate. If you want real Australian hard rock, try Rose Tattoo. They've been around since the 70's, and are/were contemporaries of AC/DC. They're a lot harder than AC/DC.
YouTube Search Links Not Included in Actual Message
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Parkway+Drive
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Rose+Tattoo
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=AC/DC
OK, that about covers it for today. Look after yourself. I look forward to your next letter.
RaHoWa! 23 Words.
@Cailen.
From Brother A.
I am quite relieved to hear the overall stance on the skinhead scene. I could not have described them better myself... To be honest, I would decide not to be involved in any group that deals with skinheads at all. Hopefully for everyone truly concerned with fundamental creativity, it stays that way.
The next issue I have to asses would be the likelihood of, for example one day being served a federal indictment via the U.S Rico act for being associated/ involved with the group. Of course I'm no lawyer, but I know that "ignorance is no excuse" whether I am directly involved in anything illegal or not. The last thing I want is for them to be able to throw away the key while I am still in here.
I also don't want to come off as a total square either. I am where I am...
However, realizing that this is a two way street it may be decided by either myself or the group that its best for me to not be involved for the time being. After all, I am in prison and unable to "do" much about anything for the next twenty years. I will be 52 years of age in 2042 upon my release. I should still have the ability to be an able bodied participant in any endeavor at that point and I intend to see it stays that way.
There is much consideration yet to be made on both sides needless to say. I'm sure you have a better idea on what's best than I do, since you have complete knowledge about the group.
Ultimately, my mission while inside is to become engaged with a group of professionals who are ideologically similar folk in order to network/build contacts before my eventual release as well as recruit and educate others in here of a similar or higher caliber than myself for the same reasons.
As long as this group can be an asset and not a liability in the fulfilment of my mission, and i am able to provide the same to the group in return then I am still quite interested.
Now you have mentioned that since you took a leadership role in the group since 2003, no one has been imprisoned. I'm assuming that would exclude the shitheads (skinheads) of TCM... any others? How about the PM Joe? May I ask his story? Also, you used Dr. in front of his name. I'm assuming this means he has a PhD from a university? Esposito must be an Italian or Spanish name right?
Its good to hear there is some intellect and class diversity behind the group here, I would have been bummed if this was just another group of hooligans who just bro out all day. I am definitely of the activist persuasion and it sounds like this group has good potential. I would love to have some philosophical conversations with you and others if possible sooner or later.
As far as my own forum account goes, that would be cool! I would probably make a better blogger than a poet. I also have a list of what I would consider essential reading and a couple sites where most of their PDF's can be found for free. Perhaps many have heard of these before, or maybe there is already something similar on the site. I also have a small piece I could do on the Ukrainian neo Nazi dilemma and how it is in our best interest to not get involved on the front lines as some western based "Neo Nazi" groups are.
I am excited to hear that a local member will be able to chat as well! Feel free to forward him our conversations so we are all on the same page.
I plan on putting the money you sent me to good use, I will be purchasing another copy of Nature's Eternal Religion to utilize as a loner when the day comes that I run across a guy in here who seems receptive to the ideology. So far I have found and read Nature's Eternal Religion, Expanding Creativity and The Little White Book online, however I have not been able to find any of the others. It sounded like you may have some of them on PDF on the Creativity Alliance site, but as I am in prison I would either need someone to print them and mail me or find a verifiable vendor to purchase from. The prison won't allow a book sent from a private individual.
As far as Parkway Drive goes, they are a bit odd in that a couple of their albums are almost an entirely different genre and yes a few of their songs are a bit borderline metal rap. I would suggest "Sleight of Hand" on their album "Atlas" its a song with lyrics that should resonate with some of us. Overall they make for good workout music if nothing else.
Well, it was good to hear from you, I have been a little slow to respond due to being locked in for almost the last four days due to our Thanksgiving holiday here.
Again, until about 7-10 days from now I won't have the stamps on my account yet until they are processed so if you can attach a prepaid reply that would be quicker in the meantime.
Thanks again!
Anthony
Reply from @Rev.Cambeul
It'll definitely stay that way - No skinheads, that is. They began interfering with Creativity in the early 80's and didn't stop until we put a stop to them. We'd have to be suicidal to allow them back in any way at all.
RICO is about criminal gangs making money from illegal sources. The first point is that we don't allow criminal activity. The second is that we don't make money. As long as I have been running things, I've had the Australian Tax Office on my back looking for an excuse to lock me up for tax evasion. When you run things at a loss, that's no longer a problem. When PM Joe is free and takes over, once he settles down in a place to live, I'll show him what to buy, how to buy it, how to get it made ... Flags, patches, shirts, books, pamphlets .... Then instead of selling everything at cost and using the payments of the website to make sure we are running at a loss, he can bump up the prices. The business is organised: The manufacturers, printers and suppliers are all in place. It will all be above board, taxable if need be under IRS law. The Australian Tax Office and RICO can go and get F!
You're talking about being 52 in 42? I'll be 72. LOL! The best Creators are the older Creators. It's what helps us not make the same mistakes that every little group makes and repeats when they form.
For example, every now and again some bunch of young twats start their own COTC group and tell us that they are doing it right. Their first mistake is to use a name that will get them and us a fine of $1000 per day. Probably three times that by now. Their second is to make public statements about how they are the ONLY and REAL COTC, while they mix it up with Christinsanity, Odinism, and Judaism or Islam (it's always one side or the other), and recognise indigenous rights. It's what we call "big tent" methodology in order to snag in everybody they can. They have absolutely no connection to Ben Klassen in any way at all, so they do not understand how Creativity has evolved. They edit our Holy Books for their own purposes. They also talk about registering their group as a business ... but by that time, we've found them and shut them down. If they are not a problem, they are invited to join us. We've picked up a few that way. Most drop Creativity from their big tent methods and embrace aliens in space or some weird shit. Most of the time they are just loonies looking for a way to profit from moronic disciples. They are always 25 years and younger.
Then there's the women's groups. The Sisterhood of the Church or whatever you want to make up. They begin by separating men from women when we do not discriminate against women. Then they turn their Sisterhood into nothing more than a type of kindergarten. They want support from the males and try to play one off against the other as the women fight it out to decide whose to be the supreme woman. That's what happens behind the scenes with every women's group. We know and just will not allow it again. If a woman wants to become a Reverend, all she needs to be is a good Creator.
Above all, people forget that Creativity is a religion. We don't need to make things up, to spookify Creativity. We don't need to unite with other religions. We don't need to embrace other traditions. We don't need to sponsor a kindergarten or a cooking cult. Without intending it, Creativity is by its essence multicultural - as in different White Cultures from different White Nations. Creator Nations. (Diversity is our Strength? LOL! I don't think so.)
Australia and America - for example - both have a similar colonial history originating from the same British source. But Italy, Greece, Serbia, France, Germany ... and the rest all have their linguistical and cultural differences. Germans are wary of too much WWI/II stuff because of their laws. Croatians love the WWII era and are bogged down in it. Serbians don't care for it. Italians ignore the wars and embrace Roman styles, Greeks embrace Hellenic styles. Italian and Greek brothers and sisters understand today the problems of nations being overrun because they have lived on the borders of Europe for millennia. French Creators are either Napoleonic or Royalist. British prefer their Empire memories. Americans and Australians stick with the colonial winning of a continent style. The thing is, it's our Holy Books and morals as Creators that unite us. That is how religion is supposed to work.
The skinheads of TCM were different. They dumped the religious aspects of Creativity, accepted it as their gang regalia only, and promoted petty criminality. If you had joined TCM back in 2003, and then you'd done what you did, they would have called you a hero up until the moment you were arrested. Then to make themselves look good in the media, they would have turned on you and denounced you. It was a common habit of theirs. I'm still in touch with one of theirs today @Rev.JoelDufresne where that happened. That's why he came to us and we have supported him for the last fifteen years. There are plenty of Creators in prison from before my time. If they are honourable men, we treat them with honour. Some are in for non-crimes, others are in because they committed a crime. Many often receive extended sentences because they are Creators. One is in for 40 years because the FBI got involved in a custody battle and saw a way to lock up the Creator. Another is doing over a thousand years because his warden illegally stole his WMB - he was already in for life for shooting drug dealers. Another got 25 years for self defence and will not likely ever get out.
PM Joe was convicted of manslaughter. Accidental death during a fight over a business deal gone wrong. He's in his sixties now. 16 years older than me. He knows he cannot live that type of life any more. It was his own fault he got locked up and he knows it. If he thought otherwise, I would have chosen somebody else to be PM.
And my choices were limited. I wanted somebody that knew Ben Klassen personally. There were other candidates, but Joe was the best candidate. His criminal record was not important to me, but prison time is an experience that can help other Creators.
Yes, Esposito is Italian. PM Joe comes from the Bronx area of NYC. That was a new accent for me to get used to over the phone. If you've ever seen that movie/documentary put out by 81, Hells Angels Forever, you may remember a huge greasy ex US Marine, Italian as Sgt at Arms. That's PM Joe's cousin, Big Vinnie. That's PM Joe's background prior to Creativity.
Reverend Doctors: We award the Doctorate for services rendered, while taking into account their knowledge of Creativity. It's an honorary award.
We have all the books on PDF. And over time we are editing them, getting them perfect - PDF's from the 90's are always pretty badly done. One example is Salubrious Living. It's a short book if you want someone to copy it for you. Retyped, pictures added, corrections made, comments made where the author (not Ben Klassen) got it wrong, new cover designs. All ready to print. The Little White Book. The version you read from TCM was copied from ours and then edited to remove/change certain aspects. We however just made corrections so the PDF matched the original booklet, then we added to it - made it useful for any Creator to carry. And we added the Creativity Handbook, which is about a hundred pages long. There is always work to do on the PDF's ....
I just spent $3K redoing my car's suspension. It's a GM Australia V6. You'd call it a Pontiac. My dog, who died last year at age 17, was named N.... Rhymes with Digger. Anyway, she thought it was a Cadillac. PONTIAC = Poor Old N. Thinks It's A Cadillac. It's not a fancy car, but it's mine. One of the few items I have left after my time in the army. So, instead of replacing it every few years and spending a few grand on it, I save the money and repair/replace/rebuild something. The point is, now that the suspension is done, I'll not have to worry about money as much as I was. I'm not rich, but I survive and that's all that counts. I'm in much the same position as you are in that respect. However, no matter how bad off I am, I know that you are worse. Even if it takes me an extra two weeks, I will always have the money for stamps.
Until next time. R! 23/23
@Cailen.
Send Mail
