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[Creativity is not a Movement. It is a RELIGION!]

Creativity is not a Movement. It is a RELIGION!

To all creators; My name is Tony and about two years ago i met a man named Joel Dufresne in prison in Michigan,it didn't take me long to become good friends with Joel.From the beginning he talked about the Creators movement and their virtues.Always he talked highly of the founder and the movement as a whole. I became very interested in the movement and all its teaching,but now two years later and A free man it is appalling how I see that the creators have shunned and turned their backs on A man who has done nothing but gave his all to this movement ! This is not what the movement is about.This has totally changed my mind of putting anything forth into the movement.How could I as A white man put any effort into helping A movement with such great values and intentions to just get backs turned on me at the very moment when I need them the most? This is unacceptable and A shame. I hope in the future the movement will improve the quality of their outreach to the 'brothers' who have gave all to them ! sincerely , Tony M.

You insinuate that Joel convinced you of the greatness of Creativity?  You state he is "a man who has done nothing but gave his all to this movement!" ?  If you believe in your friend Joel so adamantly,  then turning your back on Creativity is turning your back on the friendship you had with Joel. 

You should notice that the Creativity Alliance is the only place that gives Joel his say,  even in light of the standing accusations against him. Joel had once campaigned against PM Cambeul,  and yet our Pontifex still corresponds with Joel and his family.  So in essence CA supports Joel's voice,  and gives him the international media stage to speak from that he gets from NOWHERE ELSE. 

He does not get that from the leadership of the ministry he once lead.  His once good friends (TCM) were happy and laughing when Joel was arrested,  and ecstatic when he was sentenced.  Because they became the new leadership (Hazel was so happy that a certain JL was getting the supposed throne).  Seemed like a set up if you ask me. --> The legit Joel replaced by the parolee JL forever under the thumb of the JOG? The moment Joel is arrested JL takes his place and millions of dollars in fines disappear along with the FBI shadow? Seemed like a setup and was a setup.

So all things considered,  Joel get's more from the CA than his own people have ever given him. 

If you want to support Joel and see the saving grace in Creativity,  then you should study more about Creativity and correspond with Joel.  Maybe you could be a good brother who helps us understand him? 

Believe me we have all felt the bite of TCM,  in one way or another.

To be redundant,  why don't you write Joel and ask him how he now feels about Creators belonging to the Creativity Alliance, and those of his old organization TCM?  If you really spent two years in prison with him,  you already know half of that answer.  I am sure he will enlighten you to the fact that his old enemy (Rev. Cambuel PM,  whom he denounced and rebuked) offers him more support than people he once sat down to dinner with. 

Otherwise it seems you have just come here to stir up a bucket of poop. 

PS  Joel and four or so friends once wanted to stomp me into the pavement because my band would not make an announcement for him at a punk show,  in Detroit Michigan.  But if you read the responses to Joel's post you will see I give good reason why he may have been betrayed.  Could you be as forgiving as us?

"Wisdom comes easy if you don't let yourself get in the way . "   

In reference to TCM comment.  It is odd they heroify Ben Smith's haneous cowardly actions but turn their back on Joel.  (((One of their Members))) can tie up an young man and torture him for days and he is still a revered member as well.

Not Much to say execpt ... REALLY !   

He took a Shit in a plant at the mall

What a shit bag

To be honest I advise PM Cambeul's process along with mine .  As alcohol causes physical effects where as cigs are just psychological .  Also try some meetings .

If your an addicted to something then your a slave .  Keep that in mind and use the anger to help rid yourself .  I quit smoking for 5 years and used family court problems as an excuse .  I am gearing up to quit again .  I am buying another punching bag ,  and when ever the slave master (cigarettes) come calling I will punch that bag till I am exhausted.  If you do this remember to use hand wraps or you will cause never damage in your hand .  I have that damage in my left hand .