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Salubrious Living - Do we need it?
« on: 02 February 2011 at 08:35 »
here i go again.
Salubrious Living ? how many people in the church lives by the founders teachings on Salubrious Living.
how many smokes ? how many drinks ? how many only eats the way put down in the teachings ?
going off the post about lucky find . i don't think many.
i don't.
i grow my own food, i have my own animals for milk and meat. i even grow my own tobacco. and make my own wine and spirits. plus i make my own punch bags etc. to keep fit.
this is my idea of healthy living. plus it helps keep me out of the system.
so here it goes !
 should the church drop the teachings on this subject ?
if as i think not many, if any, people in the church lives by it. then is it not a subject that will help the church. i will go further it makes us look like a bunch of nuts.
humans even from the cavemen drank and cooked meat ect ect


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Re: Salubrious Living - Do we need it?
« Reply #1 on: 02 February 2011 at 16:02 »
should the church drop the teachings on this subject ?

No.  Salubrious Living is scientifically the healthiest way to live.  Your opinion on the subject is just that- your opinion.  Just because few people choose to live salubriously doesn't mean we should scrap Salubrious Living- it means we should encourage people all the more to adopt it.

We've said it before and we'll say it again- You will bow to Creativity, but Creativity will never bow to you.

Take this as encouragement to adopt Salubrious Living for yourself and to encourage others to adopt it.  Then see if it makes them healthier than living the way you suggest.  What you do is good and necessary, but it can by no means replace Salubrious Living.

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« Reply #2 on: 02 February 2011 at 19:15 »
thanks for your comments. and yes it is always just my opinion. as for suggesting people live my way i was not. i was as normal just trying to put the questions from what i see and think about posts on the site. but like i say thanks for your comments   
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« Reply #3 on: 02 February 2011 at 22:21 »
I appreciate your input.  It's true, not many people on this board are Salubrious, myself included.  Frankly it's difficult to change one's eating habits after years of eating a certain way and the payoff isn't immediate.  I imagine once the first generation of Salubrious children come along and people see the physical benefits of that way of life, many will change their dietary habits.  Thanks for the input.

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« Reply #4 on: 02 February 2011 at 23:23 »
here i go again.
Salubrious Living ? how many people in the church lives by the founders teachings on Salubrious Living.
how many smokes ? how many drinks ? how many only eats the way put down in the teachings ?
going off the post about lucky find . i don't think many.
i don't.

I don't either, but I follow a lot of the guidelines in SL, like eating lots of fresh, uncooked fruits and vegetables, plenty of nuts. I eat meat, eggs and dairy products, but stay away refined sugar, soft drinks, alcohol and tobacco. I definitely enjoy a little heliotherapy, as DeVries called it, mixed with physical work outdoors, but I don't do yoga or fast, as recommended in SL. I remember PM Klassen experimented with fasting, but he certainly didn't follow SL entirely. He said changing our people's bad health habits would take generations, that it wouldn't happen overnight. When we have our own racially conscious nutritionists and physiologists, etc., we can formulate a more perfected, comprehensive, more scientific plan for healthful living than what's in SL. 

Founder Klassen only wrote the one chapter in SL, the last one on eugenics, addressing our racial health. The rest of the book was written by a Mr. Arnold Devries who was not "racially-minded," as PM Klassen put it. A lot of what Devries wrote is just his opinion or theory; it's not carved in stone. He gives good advice for the most part, but he also has some odd advice like advising folks to throw away their eyeglasses and exercise the eye muscles to improve eyesight. I believe that in 2011 most people would think we only throw away our glasses after lasik surgery to correct vision. I don't want to throw away my reading glasses at all. I need them to read. I prefer wearing them to having some doctor cut on my eyeballs. When Mr. DeVries wrote that section that's in SL, laser surgery was something out of science fiction, if that.

Things change; we adapt incrementally, but our fundamentals on the primacy of race remain the same -- they are carved in granite. When Ben Klassen wrote all his books there was no Internet, there was no Skinhead movement or AIDS or DNA discoveries, or other factors that have had an impact on our race, whether beneficial or detrimental. What American in the 1970s would believe we'd have a Negro President in "our" White House now, or that our nation would be flooded with mestizos or Muslims to threaten our majority status?

What Ben Klassen had right was that his people need a religion that's exclusively eurocentric, devoid of alien influence. SL expands on healthful living that was covered somewhat in The White Man's Bible (WMB). A SOUND MIND in a SOUND BODY in a SOUND SOCIETY in a SOUND ENVIRONMENT. Creativity is more than slogans we repeat by rote. We invoke Natural Law, logic, lessons from history, science, but also our COMMON SENSE. We're learning more and more what's healthful for our minds, our bodies, society and the environment. We'll strive always to become better, the best we can be. After all, we're Nature's Finest creation.

I wonder, Conna97, have you read Salubrious Living?

I just Googled Arnold DeVries, _Fountain of Youth_ (the book PM Klassen used for most of his _Salubrious Living_. It was published in 1948, 63 years ago. Things have changed and knowledge has expanded in the field of healthy living since then, so an updated version of SL would not be out of the question when the talent and resources are available for that. I found another title by Mr DeVries, _Nude Culture_, 1946. The blurb accompanying this out of print title: "This early work discusses the virtues, ethics and morality of social nudism." I'm not sure what social nudism is, but I'm glad PM Klassen didn't include that as a chapter in _Salubrious Living_.
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Re: Salubrious Living - Do we need it?
« Reply #5 on: 02 February 2011 at 23:42 »
thanks for the reply. and the answer to your question is yes i have read all the books. but to be fully honest the last time i read  Salubrious Living was in the early 90 s when i was first in contact with the church.
i only asked the initial question because of the post lucky find. and could not understand the church teachings as i understand them and that post.
but that's why i ask. i don't say i am right or wrong on any point. i ask to find out. and then hopefully i learn from more experienced members of the church like yourself.
and thanks to your reply s i feel i am learning every time.
as i have said in other posts i believe the best way to learn is to ask and that is all am trying to do.
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« Reply #6 on: 03 February 2011 at 01:53 »
I do not think we should drop Salubrious Living. Yes its hard and myself I try my best. I grow my on food, eggs, and canning goods, hunt when I have time. Living from the land as much as I can.  ;D
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« Reply #7 on: 13 May 2011 at 22:44 »
im new to all this and have only glanced at the on line version of sl,but i cant understand how eating this way makes me a better nigger hater.....i hate niggers,spicks,chinks,lebs etc whether im chewing on a carrot bugs style or slamming down a beer with a greasy works burger,and to be honest when i finally loose the plot after being pushed into a minority by these dirty low life specks of * on our society and start popping them off one by one it will probably be with a beer and a pack of greasy pork rinds LOL...

no dis respect meant at all guys and plz feel free to re educate me on the topic as i am new here and am open to all teachings.

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« Reply #8 on: 13 May 2011 at 23:41 »
Salubrious living isn't about hating muds it's about loving yourself and other White people enough to get them off their steady diet of sugar, white bread, and caffeine and get them as healthy as they can be for our struggle (violent or not).

Most people don't know this, but sugar and caffeine (to name a few) are psychoactive- they change the way you think.  How are we supposed to straighten out the White man's thinking if it's under the influence of the drugs sugar and caffeine, if not worse?

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« Reply #9 on: 14 May 2011 at 05:37 »
i see your[e] point brother,and can appreciate what it is you[']re saying.

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« Reply #10 on: 18 May 2011 at 23:22 »
My only objection to SL was that it seems that a fruitarian diet ingnores the evidence for other diet systems such as Paleolithic Diet etc. If you are going to discuss the merits of a a diet I think the only thing relevant is the SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE.

SL is not up for debate. It is not a Holy Book, but rather an out of date (circa 1948) rough guide to eating healthy. That is all and that is why it is not up for debate. Anyone following the diet as it is written would be a fool as they would be severely deficient in many nutritional aspects - just as anyone living their life on a combination of greaseball burgers, caffeine, sugar and diet pills would be deficient in other nutritional aspects.

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« Reply #11 on: 24 May 2011 at 09:19 »
I'm currently reading SL and think it sounds great and kind of reminds me of the Gracie diet from more recent times.

I don't know a lot about diets but The Gracies dominated the early days of cage fighting and they promote a fruit diet although not exclusively. But it is very similar so far.

Has anyone tried fasting?

Does that really benefit you?

Sorry if this counts as continuing the debate but I'm a fan of the book and want some opinions on fasting before I try it.

 I found the book argument for fasting very convincing

Thank you and all comments appreciated.

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« Reply #12 on: 24 May 2011 at 09:37 »
Sorry if this counts as continuing the debate but I'm a fan of the book and want some opinions on fasting before I try it.

No, you are asking genuine questions rather than debating how we should make changes to a dietary book that no matter how correct we are able to get it, will never be correct as trends change and information is gained. (That's why it's not up for debate.)

Since I mostly work from home, fasting is no problem for me. I don't need to wake up in the morning, break my fast and choke down bacon and eggs, and cereal before running off to a hectic day of work. So I am able to eat when I choose and even fast when I choose.

As for the benefits of fasting: I have fasted on many an occasion and found that it really does not do anything at all. But for me, fasting is perfectly natural. Most days I eat barely once per day - and that is usually in the evening. Other days I just don't feel the need to eat, so it's just a liquid diet of water. Most of the time I fast without really thinking about it. If there are any benefits to fasting that I have found, it is purely part of the dietary function.

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« Reply #13 on: 26 May 2011 at 18:40 »
Ah... SL. As it is a book co-authored by Beloved Founder we should of course read it and consider it. However, when you read the further supplementary books of Creativity you will see that Beloved Founder himself did not place SL very highly in the Creative lifestyle. Some of his meals at Shoney's and other establishments I have not touched since my teen years (when I could get away with it and not put on the pounds!)

It works for some Creators and others can't abide by it. It is one of those areas of Creativity which one can take or leave as Beloved Founder himself largely left.

Matt, however, lived salubriously and it brought him benefit so it really depends on the Creator.

Try it, you may find it beneficial to you. It is not a law or a rule but rather a guideline. I find an occasional fast to be a good "recharge", but I have never completely abandoned meat eating in favor of fruits and nuts.

My rule of thumb is not to eat anything with nearly the same DNA. I don't eat other primates nor other carnivores, swine is consumed sparingly as are the hoofed mammals. Once I get below the 50% similar DNA threshold I consume it all - all fowl, red or white meat and fish of all sorts. A lot of good lean protein is found there. Still if you ever invited me for a good steak dinner or a BBQ, I would not turn it down!
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I think, every white man, every member of Creativity must live healthly... must conduct active life , run, swim, healthly eating, or whatever.

I think Creativity could not be base on reads some books and feel good of being White, moreover important is healthy life. When i saw some people of that, they looks like slouches. Our enemies niggers or Left Side will train non-stop.
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Silicon Valley exec Phil Libin doesn’t eat for eight days at a time and says he’s never felt healthier

A SILICON Valley boss lost 40kg after eight months of intermittent fasting, and says that’s only one benefit he has found using the hot new trend.


http://www.news.com.au/technology/science/human-body/silicon-valley-exec-phil-libin-doesnt-eat-for-eight-days-at-a-time-and-has-never-felt-healthier/news-story/1135eb0de0b8260e151724bd325a637d


Extract: “Getting into fasting is definitely one of the top two or three most important things I’ve done in my life.”

Mr Libin said he had his doubts when he first heard of the concept, but was willing to give it a try and was glad he did.

“The first day I felt so hungry I was going to die. The second day I was starving. But I woke up on the third day feeling better than I had in 20 years,” he said.

Chief executive of biohacking and nootropics company HVMN Geoffrey Woo said participants got the most out of the trend when combining fasting with tracking of vitals like body composition, blood glucose and ketones — a compound produced when the body burns fat for energy or fuel.

“You would think that after seven days of not eating you would be totally distracted and hunting for food, but at around the two- or three-day mark hunger tapers off as ketone levels are elevating. You are feeding your brain and body with an alternative fuel source.”

Mr Woo added ketones are a super-fuel for the brain.

“So a lot of the subjective benefits to fasting, including mental clarity, are down to the rise in ketones in the system,” he said.
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