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John de Nugent's overuse of the acronym COINTEL-pro
« on: 14 April 2009 at 01:18 »
This might ought to go in "Soap Opera," but it does involve an announced, openly racist presidential candidate and a recent poster to this forum, 'TowardWewelsburg,' as they go back and forth, dealing with issues that should be instructive for Creators.

TW posted this to Vanguard News Network forum. Note that he quotes a post I made here at CreatorForum in the Introductions Section, then links all those eyes from VNN over here to check out the Creativity Alliance and see what all the fuss is about:

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Notice that Mr. DeNugent refused to answer any of my questions, other than to assert that he has, in fact, bedded a Jewess AFTER his "racial awakening."

I did not call you "unsolicited," John, and that is very misleading. You repeatedly urge all WNs to call and speak to you on this thread, if they have something to ask or offer, and I called you with a very specific purpose in mind: to offer you a meeting location in NJ, because your supporter (Burzum88 on ECWU) had asked for my help.

That's right, folks. I called this guy to help him secure a meeting location on private property that couldn't be interrupted, and I did so. He wanted to have a private meeting in NJ following his Boston speech, and I was willing to facilitate that and hear this man out by offering him our hospitality. When April 11th came, his book didn't come out and there was no speech given; John de Nugent stayed in Pa., with no regard for those to whom he gave his word that he was launching this movement on April 11th (including Henrik Holappa), and launched a vicious attack on me for simply saying this was regrettable.

Speaking of unsolicited phone calls, many of you here know and respect Will Williams. This is the e-mail Will sent me last night about Mr. De Nugent:


Hey, Robert!

It sounds like Mr. De Nugent has come a little unraveled. It also sounds like he's hanging with the wrong crowd to get four reports that you are COINTEL-pro after you made such an innocent remark

That's to be expected from a man who claims to lead White people with statements like, "a movement without God in it is no movement at all." When John De Nugent called me last week and I told him I couldn't support his planned movement because of that one declaration that I'd seen him make, he replied, "Yes, I'm definitely a 'big tent' proponent."

Creators are "small tent," building the uncompromising vanguard that rebukes such Jewish nonsense for the sake of the expedient "broader outreach" to Xlings we see in so many non-Creators who claim to lead us. I'd say the same to Ed Steele for his statements last week in support of Jew-spawned Xianity. That's what politicians feel they have to say, I suppose, when testing the waters for a political bid. Neither of these men believe in Xianity, yet they feel they have to not criticize the alien "brain bomb," as Klassen called Xianity, that has been imposed on our kin, for fear of offending the herd animals that still vote. That is some disgustingly thin soup for the nourishment of our long-suffering people.

The weak do not lead the strong.
If I were able to post to VNN, Robert, I'd go there and put that in Mr. de Nugent's thread. When my friends are unfairly attacked with such serious, baseless accusations as this I like to come to their defense.

You were right, Robert. De Nugent fears of showing up and giving his speech yesterday turned out to be baseless. Poor example he set.

-Will [Williams]


[Note: WW posted this himself on the Creator forum, so I know he doesn't mind my reposting it here.]
"Heiden sind alle, die zum Leben ja sagen, denen "Gott" das Wort für das Große Ja zu allen Dingen ist." – F. Nietzsche
---end VNNF post---

I see that after TW posted the above, he further demolished, point by point, our hopeful future POTUS's paranoic obfuscation in subsequent posts.  Mr. DeNugent throws in the towel, expecting TW to accept a truce, but without his apologizing for saying TW is a federal asset, per se. JdN made this comment about me that should get a Creator's juices going:

"And if Will Williams, whose Green Beret service and National Alliance service I respect, and who just called me the other day to stand strong against defamation, KNOWS there is no God anywhere in the entire universe, having looked under every rock under every asteroid, well, then he is omniscient and he should be our god."

The highlighted portions above between a Creator and a Big Tent Politician "Believer," open the door for competent Creators to jump in and make a sound case for Creativity at a forum full of biological racists/atheists where Creativity has a tarnished image because of its recent unfortunate history. TW is a respected poster there, even if he did a radio show with Bill White, or whatever. I did a radio show with me against three niggers one time, so, what would that make me, a nigger acolyte?  ::)

I'm banned from VNNF. If an SPGer chooses to post there, however, don't be disrespectful to Mr. DeNugent. Just answer his challenge to me about my belief that there is not a god because I haven't looked under all the rocks yet, much less any asteroids. Tell him you talked to me and I said ,"Yeah, I looked in the Jew Word, their Book of Fables, and my god sure ain't in there."

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Re: John de Nugent's overuse of the acronym COINTEL-pro
« Reply #1 on: 14 April 2009 at 01:28 »
For those not familiar with the term:

COINTELPRO (an acronym for Counter Intelligence Program) was a series of covert and often illegal projects conducted by the Federal Bureau of Investigation aimed at investigating and disrupting dissident political organizations within the United States. The FBI used covert operations from its inception, however, the formal COINTELPRO operations took place between 1956 and 1971.[2] The FBI motivation at the time was "protecting national security, preventing violence, and maintaining the existing social and political order."[citation needed]

According to FBI records, 85% of COINTELPRO resources were expended on infiltrating, disrupting, marginalizing, and/or subverting groups suspected of being subversive,[3] such as communist and socialist organizations; the women's rights movement; people suspected of building a "coalition of militant black nationalist groups" ranging from the Black Panther Party and Republic of New Afrika to "those in the non-violent civil rights movement" such as Martin Luther King, Jr. and others associated with the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, the Congress of Racial Equality, and other civil rights groups; a broad range of organizations labelled "New Left", including Students for a Democratic Society, the National Lawyers Guild, the Weathermen, almost all groups protesting the Vietnam War, and even individual student demonstrators with no group affiliation; and nationalist groups such as those "seeking independence for Puerto Rico." The other 15% of COINTELPRO resources were expended to marginalize and subvert "white hate groups," including the Ku Klux Klan and National States' Rights Party. [4]

The directives governing COINTELPRO were issued by FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover, who ordered FBI agents to "expose, disrupt, misdirect, discredit, or otherwise neutralize" the activities of these movements and their leaders.[5][6]
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Re: John de Nugent's overuse of the acronym COINTEL-pro
« Reply #2 on: 27 July 2009 at 12:37 »
I don't understand most of what De Nugent has to say to be honest.


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