Christianity Does Not Deserve Consideration - It's Record is One of Shame

[StephenMasten (Prison)]

Apollonian, with all due respect, your Xian religion is crippled and dying. In my country at least, those who openly consider themselves Christinsane and practitioners of the religion are few. Most Christinsane are not much more than cultural Christinsane, they attend a Christinsane church for weddings and perhaps say grace before their Xmas dinner. More and more people, especially the younger generation, identify as atheists and even more so "anti-religion" solely because of the social nightmare they associate Abrahamic religions with.

You suggest that Creators should adopt Christinsanity because most people still pay lip service to that suicidal Jewish doctrine. I ask Apollonian, which breed of Christinsanity do we adopt? Mormonism, Protestantism, Catholocism, Pentecostal, Baptist, Orthodox, Seventh Day Adventist, Anglicanism, Christian Identity, Lutheranism, Evangelism, Presbyterianism, Methodist or Brethren? I hope you see my point. There is no such thing as unity in Christinsanity and even if we did adopt Christinsanity, we'd be fighting an uphill battle trying to unify the thousands of different sects that White people follow.

I would much rather stick to Creativity, which is based on the Eternal Laws of Nature, history, science, logic and common sense - our religion lies in PROVEN FACT, not literature or mythology. Our creed is simple to understand yet comprehensive, it cannot be misinterpreted and there is no varying "denominations" of Creativity. Creativity is not for export - it is for the Survival, Expansion and Advancement of the White race, exclusively!

I suggest strongly, before you post here again, that you take the time to read Nature's Eternal Religion and even A Revolution of Values Through Religion. It will be very difficult for any Creator to take you seriously in debate if you have not even taken the time to read our basic religious texts. I am confident that most Creators have read the Old Testament and New Testament, they are a basic primer for us as Creators in understanding our racial enemy, the nefarious Jew. It is essential that you read our basic texts to understand where we are coming from.
You can find our Holy Books at the RaHoWa Directory.

Once again, I wish you the best.

RAHOWA!

[MarkCook]

I agree with the Rev., just read  Nature's Eternal Religion  and don't be fooled by the Jews.  Ben Klassen  spells out  the Jews'  whole purpose in  concocting  Christianity if you'll  just read it.   Love your enemies,  turn the other cheek, hate your family??  Kinda stupid if you think about it  and NOT based on truth but suicide.  R !

[Maritz]

Why Is It Surprising To Find COUNTERFEIT Criminals Have Bought "Churches"--Along With Everything Else?
(Apollonian, 6 Aug 10)

Pontifex: note I don't at all deny what u indicate about the "official" establishment "church"--but this isn't the real church or religion which is necessarily based upon the original literature, New Testament (NT), which real church is the people and their ministering to one another, never doubt--it's why Protestants branched off fm the main-line church, for another example.

Apollonian,

The New Testament was mostly written by a "converted" Jew named Paul, formerly Saul of Tarsus.  It is a fraud, a fake, a lie- engineered by the Jewish people of the time to subvert, confuse, undermine, and overthrow the Roman Empire who at that time occupied Jerusalem.  There is only one real church- the Church of the Creator.  All others are based on deceptive philosophy and scientific ignorance.

But I'm trying to introduce u to a tremendous psychologic/aesthetical WEAPON--that Christian idiomatic, based upon the original NT literature.  Thus I explain it to u in strict SCHOLARLY terms so u can understand.  Ck my citations.  Thus Christianity is literally the Hegelian ANTI-THESIS to Judaism-Pharisaism (Talmudism-subjectivism-collectivism--see citations given above), preaching TRUTH, thus Aristotelian objectivity, the necessary criterion.  U must remember this Christian aesthetic is presented so it could be understood by laymen and common people of the time of Roman Empire--it's not formatted for philosophy students.

We have our anti-semitic philosophy already.  It's called Creativity.  It is nature's law encoded by and commented on by a man named Ben Klassen, a veritable saint if there ever was one- and surely Christianity's "saint" Paul does not merit the title.  Our golden rule is this:  What is good for the White race is the highest virtue; what is bad for the White race is the ultimate sin.  The foundation of our religion is not a book written by a converted Jew who claims that his supernatural savior was raised from the dead.  In fact, Christianity has so destroyed the world with it's insane doctrines that we want nothing less than to completely supplant it with Creativity- to turn every church into a church of Creativity; to destroy the steeples and erect in their places a glorious crown and halo.  The foundation of our creed is Nature's Eternal Religion and the White Man's Bible.  I advise you read them both before posting again.

...Honest elections and death to the Fed.  Apollonian

Again, read our Holy books before you post again.  They mention the very things you've spoken of here.

[apollonian]

Never Forget: Christianity Is Only Form Of Practical Anti-Semitism Throughout History
(Apollonian, 7 Aug 10)

Thanks much, Rev., for all ur commentary, don't doubt I take it to heart w. all seriousness.  But I seem to notice u're repeating urself and speaking as if u haven't read my postings which address the issues u bring up--this is NOT going to profit either one of us.  U need to pay proper attn.

For example u continue to allege Christianity is "Jewish"--and I explained to u in no uncertain terms how this is IMPOSSIBLE by the definition of the word, "Jew," WHICH U CAN CK W. ANY AUTHORITY, Christian or Jew.  "Jew" is follower of Talmud (Pharisees), PERIOD--which Christ explicitly repudiated.  "Jew" is NOT same as Judean or Israelite.  Christianity is unquestionably ANTI-SEMITIC (according to Jews' own understanding of the word, "anti-semitic") without the slightest doubt.  Anti-semitism (anti-Talmud, as Gosp.s MARK 7:1-13 and MATT 15:3-9) is the purpose of Christianity, the explicit Hegelian-style anti-thesis.

U need to get these definitions straight, once and for all.  For if we cannot agree upon the most basic premises--like English language, for example--we cannot go on for any discourse, surely u'd agree.

I further explained to u the specific Christianity we should consider is that originally expounded in New Testament (NT) literature, nothing else--not Old Test., or what pope says or anyone else.  For NT is the foremost reference--it's what people themselves refer to and care about most.

Incidentally, u ought to know Mormonism is NOT Christianity in practically any way, with it's amazing theologic innovations--did u know, for example, Mormons say ANYONE CAN BECOME GOD?--thus Mormonism is most akin to an individualist-styled Judaism, the Jews holding that all the Judaic people are themselves the "apple" of God's "eye," whom God serves as a slave, God not being able to resist "loving" them.  But I must also admit I don't have ready source citation on this Mormonism--but there are interesting videos on Mormon subject u might ck on YouTube.com.

I assure u I've read (many yrs ago) Ben Klassen's books (just about all of them, as I recall); I'm also a former philosophy major (33 credit hrs) and I can tell u Klassen was surely an excellent man, but NOT a terribly original thinker--though he surely deserves hearing fm anyone for his honest observations--and he makes some excellent pt.s, without a doubt.  So if there's something specific about Klassen's words or writings, u should specifically make the citation--DON'T tell me to read his works which I've already done.

I don't know about ur country; I only know about my own, USA, state of Texas, San Antonio, city.  Here Christianity is the ONLY (religious) "game" in town--whether Protestant or Catholic--MANY people take it most seriously, do not doubt.

Note again, Christianity is the only potentially practical and historically successful form of anti-semitism that is or has ever been known--it was responsible for the original culture-wide Jew-Expulsion of St. Constantine the Great, and it is responsible for the ONLY successful local Jew-Expulsions since.  Christianity is the only practical resort humanity has against the anti-human Jew monster.

CONCLUSION: U need to understand simple sociologic-political fact people NEVER UNIFY--EXCEPT against a negative which they all agree upon for FEAR--the greater the fear, the greater the potential (but always temporary) unity.  Thus as historic CYCLE continues for "Decline of the West," by Oswald Spengler, and as Jews become evermore prominent for their absolute cultural dominance (USA now has no less than THREE Jews on the nine member US Supreme Court), people will steadily unite just for opposition to these Judaic monsters.  Christianity then is the positive component which will hold people together on sentimental-intellectual basis for task of practical Jew-expulsion.  Thanks again for all ur attn and comments.  Honest elections and death to the Fed.  Apollonian

[apollonian]

Individualism Is Greatest Western Value In Accord With Reason, Truth And Honesty Greatest Virtues, Race Nothing But Subsidiary Virtue
(Apollonian, 7 Aug 10)

(a) I've already read Klassen's works.  If u want to make a pt. based on Mr. Klassen, then u should be specific and make a clear statement.  Don't tell me to read Klassen's work--if u have something to say, GET TO THE PT. and say what u think should be noted.

(b) St. Paul DID NOT write "most" of the New Testament (NT); he is generally held as author of about 8 or 9 of the epistles attributed to him.  The author who wrote more than any other of NT is St. Luke (Acts, and Gospel), about a fourth, total, of entire NT.  St. Paul would be second with about a fifth, total, of the NT text.

(c) "Veritas," Western civilization (including Christianity) upholds the individual as highest practical value for each and every individual, this consistent w. truth and reason, the race or collective as only secondary, and this is what follows fm reason and honesty, honesty then the greatest single ethical virtue in honor of highest abstract value, TRUTH (Gosp. JOHN 8:32, 14:6).  Observe that even if what u said were true--about white race being highest value--it could only follow fm premise of truth.  The race is great value and virtue ONLY as it feeds and upholds the individual.

CONCLUSION: If what u said were true about white race being highest value, then it would be merely COLLECTIVISM, hence a kind of socialism.  I'm pretty sure Klassen would emphatically reject socialism as any sort of virtue.  Honest elections and death to the Fed.  Apollonian

[apollonian]

Christian Advice Must Always Be Understood In Rational Perspective
(Apollonian, 7 Aug 10)

Rev. Cook: note "love ur enemies" only means to take enemies seriously for their complaints, this in effort to minimize needless enmity among people.  But if u have to defend urself, u must do what u must do.  "Turn the other cheek," only means don't be too quick to fire upon ur fellow.  Esp. w. ur friends, u should be willing to bear some inconveniences.  Honest elections and death to the Fed.  Apollonian