Why Quarrel Amongst Our Own (Christianity?)

[my nation]

I understand that this is a creator site and you as creators feel your views are the right views,and in general they are right. But it saddens me   to see that peopl are banned from this site for being Christian,when h es is still a White brother for the struggle. I personally am a identity Christian who would go to battle for White Christians just quick as i would a creator because for me it's about my White race not which religion is right. Is there no common ground for us to stand?  If you answer no tjen you do not hold your White race in your hearts,you hold only creativity as you purpose . We all have a common goal to give to our race a future. Right? So why not do that. Jews and other muds are a common enemy.One cannot judge one by being Christian or creator . I have wanted to wears the creator patch,but after reading how closed minded you all are, and how even when one of your own goes to prison you circle the wagons and leave him to rot for being a soldier in the cause,and call him a traitor to creativity, is wrong and really treason against your race. And fellow members, just as the jews brainwash america,does not purify our race it pollutes it. A dead nigger or a dead jew or anyother mud is still dead, whether its by a christian or creator its still one down , this war will not be won by political means but only by violence. So i think i will keep and wear only my true loved patch of Aryan Nations and the church of Jesus Christ Christian. An organization about change not about only personal views and beliefs, but about their soldiers and what happens when they fall in battle, or become political prisoners. Who stand and fight for the White race. The fallen should not be cast aside and labled a traitor,but should be called a hero. 14/88 because of your behavior- the saddened soldier

[Sinn]

If anyone is divisive, you don't have to look further than the christians. Amongst the thousand interpretations of the bible you have hundreds of denominations, yours just several of them. Two thousand years of history to back my claim. You and your religious kin bring that same crap into the WN movement and you expect us to just go along with that ? You must be delusional. We will never stand for that.

You bring that same thing here to this forum with you high and mighty stance "oh I wanted to join but I changed my mind because of ... ". And you want us to excepted as a brother with that kind of attitude after 5 posts on this forum, instead of asking questions and getting answers as to why certain things are as they are. You wont get very far.

You said you have an open mind and you read books. Read our Holy Books and compare our religious writings to yours. There is only one interpretation of Creativity and that is the plain simple English words written by our founder, compared to the numerous interpretations of your jew written bible.

Is there no common ground for us to stand?  If you answer no then you do not hold your White race in your hearts,you hold only creativity as you purpose

Don't try to emotionally blackmail us with your female-like bullsh!t. There have been numerous times your pastors (Lindstedt) and followers have called us all sorts of names and have called for extermination of Creators once they deal with the jews and niggers (yea, right. Like that will ever happen). You want to find common ground with people like that, you go ahead. We do not forget, nor we forgive.

I have wanted to wears the creator patch,but after reading how closed minded you all are, and how even when one of your own goes to prison you circle the wagons and leave him to rot for being a soldier in the cause,and call him a traitor to creativity, is wrong and really treason against your race.

How about you read the Holy Books of Creativity instead of sticking a patch on ? We don't need posers, we need real believers.

If you are referring to Hale, there is much more history to that than your simpleton interpretation of what happened. Open minded, are we not?

A dead nigger or a dead jew or anyother mud is still dead, whether its by a christian or creator its still one down , this war will not be won by political means but only by violence.

I would love to see even one jew or nigger dead by any of your CI people. Seriously, how many have you and your org killed in the name of CI (not counting the ones that were killed out of self defense) as you so proudly boast here ? I will tell you - NONE!!!

So i think i will keep and wear only my true loved patch of Aryan Nations and the church of Jesus Christ Christian. An organization about change not about only personal views and beliefs, but about their soldiers and what happens when they fall in battle, or become political prisoners. Who stand and fight for the White race. The fallen should not be cast aside and labled a traitor,but should be called a hero. 14/88 because of your behavior- the saddened soldier

Thats great. As I said, we don't need posers. I see a lot of changes in your org, mostly people coming in, and going out. Great change. You go and believe your delusional crap of a religion, your hebe god and your jew on a stick. We don't need that crap here.

One more thing, you guys are not soldiers. Period. You have never taken any real soldier like action on behalf of your org, and most likely never will.

As far as taking care of our POW's, we do take care of them. We just don't use that for marketing purposes.

[Rev.Cambeul]

We Creators of the Creativity Alliance incorporating all the Churches of Creativity have learned to treat Christians as individuals. We do that because we give them the opportunity to prove themselves to be White Racial Brothers and Sisters, rather than what the bulk of Christians are: Judgemental, abusive, close minded traitors to the White Race who either turn the other cheek and love thy enemy or in some cases, embrace the enemy as their brother because the Sand-Nigger is the enemy of their enemy - the Jew (or vice versa). Even worse, that kind of Christian calls all Biological Racialists - Creators and atheists alike - the Spawn of Satan, and often tell us that they prefer the Jehovah loving Jew to even us. So think yourself lucky that we choose to treat you as an individual.

As for Creators going to prison, we judge them ourselves, based on what we know of the person and the crime they committed. There are a few who are not part of our Church that consider prison as a badge of honour, and martyrdom as the obligatory outcome of any crime. A prison martyr is somebody who is arrested for an honourable action with regards to the White Race; not someone who stabs a skinhead for disagreeing with him at a party, or killing two kids while drunk driving. And in rare cases, we may consider someone a prison martyr, but if that prisoner for whatever reason turns against our Church, we will not turn the other cheek and pray for his or her return to normality. Instead we will consider them Damnatio Memoriae, and subject to a decision by our Guardians of the Faith Committee, we will expunge them from our history. And as Creators, we have no compelling reason to forgive.

Which brings us to you: Do you have anybody specifically in mind? If you do, name them. Or are you confusing us with someone else? Or are you just a troll having a general bitch about the Creativity Alliance, because we do not SELL Church Membership like others once did and you seem to want? Creativity is neither a gang nor a Boy Scout club and our Church Emblem is neither gang colours, nor a badge for your collection. My personal belief is that you are a troll, and until you are able to prove me wrong, you will be placed on and remain on Restriction of Privileges, where you will be confined to the introductory area of Creator Forum.

@Cailen.

[my nation]

I am sorry if I offended anyone that was not my intention, and i apologize for that.I was in no way trying to  degrade any White brothers. I am not trying to buy into any organization, And as far as sounding female loke a femalr bitch that is way left.  Iwas just trying to understand wy yall think that only this goal ca n be obtained thru creativity thankyou for the responses

[VanDamme]

At the end of the day it can all be about psychology. I was brought up a Christian, I went to sunday school, I went to church and was a member regularly but by the age of 19 I was seeing the contradictions in Christianity and simply out of logic it fell apart. I read the Bible from cover to cover several times and began writing a critique of it and realising a new Religion needed founding.

One of the many flaws was the concept of the Biblical God being remotely good.

This spook intends to torture billions of souls in Hell for all eternity "In a lake of fire". With not even the possible release of death. How is that good or justified? i wouldn't do that to my worst enemy, I wouldn't do it to a rapist or peadophile, Sure i'd hang them but i wouldn't torture them ergo I am morally superior to the biblical god.

Then there is god burning the Earth and oceans in revelation..how is that good? or rolling up the universe like a scroll? what about all the innocent life forms, fish, whales etc?

Then geology, demolishes the Bible, not to mention paleontology, biology, science, history and archaeology.

Perhaps it is only with intelligence that a person can deprogramme themselves of Christianity. If a person cannot do it they fall short. Perhaps they aren't bright and therefore are not a path to the superman anyway.

also ...If a person lies to themself (as Christians do) ..how can they be trusted ?

And the Japanese proverb  " A stupid friend is worse than an intelligent enemy."

Having said all that anyone is free to join Creativity, set up their own church and if there is anything they don't understand or need explaining i'm sure one of our Reverends can explain it politely.