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More Western Jew Media: Phone Call Records Cast Doubt On Ukraine Atrocity Claims

Started by G.L.R., Sat 09 Apr 2022

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G.L.R.

Phone call records appear to cast doubt on Ukrainian claims of Russian atrocities

7 April 2022



Recordings obtained by RT paint a different picture  regarding civilian deaths and looting near the Ukrainian capital

Ukrainian and Western media outlets have accused Russian troops of  killing civilians in Bucha and other towns around Ukraine's capital,  Kiev in the past month. Excerpts of phone calls obtained by RT, however,  appear to contradict some of the allegations and seem to paint a  different picture of the situation on the ground... RT was unable to independently verify the authenticity of the recordings. In what appears to be an excerpt from a satellite phone call, an alleged  reporter identified only as 'Simon' tells his colleagues he visited  Borodyanka and found that "there's no bodies in the streets at all," contrary to what he was led to expect. The town has been "shelled to pieces," he outlines, "but there's no evidence of any rights abuses here at all." Simon claims  that he and his crew interviewed multiple residents who said the  Russian troops had been very friendly and gave them food and water and  other supplies. "And we got quotes on camera for that," he adds.


"I don't know what the prosecutor was talking about, but we have seen nothing like that at all. It's a completely different picture," he continues, adding that a French journalist may have seen the body of someone killed by shelling, but "no executions." The alleged reporter ends the call by saying he was going back to Bucha, to "try and find some more evidence of extrajudicial killings there, but there's no sign of any of that here." Ukraine accused Russia of murdering over 400 civilians in Bucha before retreating from the town near Kiev last week. The US and its allies have backed Kiev's claims, citing them as reasons to impose more sanctions against Russia.



The truth is the last thing you will hear.  Like British propaganda posters of German WWI soldiers throwing babies up in the air...

Moscow has categorically denied the accusations,  saying that Russian troops pulled out of the town on March 30, and that  claims of killings appeared only four days later – after Ukrainian  security forces and TV cameras arrived in the town. Another  recording obtained by RT seems to depict a conversation between two  Ukrainian Security Service (SBU) officials. .. "From March 24 to April 3, after we pushed the 'orcs' away from here,"  says a person only identified as Sergey Anatolyevich... "After the unit that pushed them out moved on, the  territorial defense came from Malin ... and marauded during that time. Looted everything they could. Broke down doors, everything. Safes were opened, cars were stolen. They stuffed the cars with everything worth anything and took it away," he adds. "It turns out the 'Moskals' took nothing, but ours went in and looted everything,"  Sergey Anatolyevich adds, using another derogatory term for Russians.


Moscow attacked the neighboring state in late February, following Ukraine's failure to implement the terms of the Minsk agreements signed in 2014, and Russia's eventual recognition of the Donbass republics of Donetsk and Lugansk. The German and French brokered Minsk Protocol was  designed to regularize the status of the regions within the Ukrainian  state.  Russia has now demanded that Ukraine officially declare  itself a neutral country that will never join the US-led NATO military  bloc. Kiev insists the Russian offensive was completely unprovoked and  has denied claims it was planning to retake the two regions by force.


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G.L.R.

Zelensky rejected peace offer days before Russian offensive – WSJ

3 April 2022


German chancellor Olaf Scholz had offered Volodymyr Zelensky a chance  for peace just days before the launch of the Russian military offensive, but the Ukrainian president turned it down

Scholz had made what the US outlet described as "one last push for a settlement between Moscow and Kiev" less than a week before the Russian forces were sent into Ukraine on February 24. The chancellor told Zelensky in Munich on February 19 "that Ukraine should renounce its NATO aspirations and declare neutrality as part of a wider European security deal between the West and Russia," the paper writes. The daily also claims that "the pact would be signed by Mr. Putin and Mr. Biden, who would jointly guarantee Ukraine's security."


However, Zelensky rejected the offer to make the concession and avoid confrontation, saying that "[Russia's President Vladimir] Putin couldn't be trusted to uphold such an agreement and that most Ukrainians wanted to join NATO," the WSJ reports, without revealing its sources for the information.  Scholz and Zelensky did meet on that day on the sidelines of the Munich Security Conference, at which each delivered an address.


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