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Encounter with John de Nugent

Started by JamesCostello, Tue 28 Jan 2014

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StephenMasten

Recently our fellow pro-White, the ever kooky though (I hope) well-meaning John D. Nugent, shared a rather dubious Mail Online article on Facebook titled 'Is this proof near-death experiences ARE real?'

The author of the piece claims that 'Near Death Experiences' are 'real' and that we need not worry about the nebulous afterlife, as it is such a wonderful paradise in which we meet up with the ghosts of our dead relatives, etc.. With all this 'wonder' and 'heavenly happiness,' one wonders why those who experience such hallucinations don't simply jump out of the nearest window and get back to the heavenly hereafter. Strangely they seldom (if ever) do this. 

After reading the article in question, I had the audacity (dare I say, the chutzpah) to post a comment questioning the validity of the authors claims, a comment that clearly irked Mr. Nugent. His immediate response was to delete my comment and made the following statement:

'I AM NOT OBLIGATED TO LEAVE POSTS UP PROMOTING ATHEISM. Post them on your own page.'

He then edited his post to read 'Start your own thread there proving there is no God . ;) '

Fair enough, I said, I will do so. At least to his initial comment. Refuting the existence of non-existent spooks is of course not necessary, as the burden of proof is on the party affirming, not the party denying.

Anyway, for your reading pleasure, here is the offending comment:

'With all due respect, John, how can this MailOnline piece be regarded as 'proof' that 'Near Death Experiences' (and therefore the hereafter) are 'real'? Methinks it wishful thinking more like. Personally I find it disgraceful that a supposed professional news outlet would give this silliness the time of day. This contemptible rag is perpetuating superstition, giving the poor gullible yokels false hope in a nebulous and non-existent hereafter when they ought to be grounding their readership in reality.

No doubt people do experience Near Death Experiences, but they are simply hallucinations, comforting figments of the convoluted human imagination. Which is not at all surprising when we consider the fact that those who experience these strange apparitions are usually extremely ill, near death and drugged up to the eyeballs on medication at the time of the event.

'Can all these people — and the many more that I've interviewed — be delusional?' asks the author Penny Sartori, a woman who unconvincingly claims that she first delved into the phenomena of Near Death Experiences as a 'cynic.' The answer, overwhelmingly, is *YES,* these critically ill and dying hospital patients are indeed delusional.

These poor ailing individuals have been terribly unwell, even to the point of actually being close to death. That there is little doubt. At this moment, for whatever reason, that eternally complex organ that is still a mystery even to the most learned and erudite of scientists (the brain) has resorted to this compassionate hallucination just before the glow of life fades forever.

That is my conclusion anyway. There must always be a rational explanation. When an individual constantly poses the question, 'How do you explain this phenomena,' then uses the fact that scientists haven't been able to sufficiently answer the question (to their liking) to then go on a fantastic flight of fancy, is completely unacceptable for the rational thinking mind. We always meet such wild stories with a suspicious and sceptical eye, and finally scorn.

'A skeptical and inquiring mind is no vice. Being gullible and superstitious is no virtue.' That is a quote from our very own White Man's Bible (CREDO 71). I suppose I ought to pin on my 'Young Soul' badge right now, hey John? :) ' (John de Nugent believes (based on what evidence I have no idea) that people who do not believe in spooks are 'young souls,' like babies to be pitied. The fortunate 'old souls,' like himself (and his former assistant Jason Salyers) are lightyears ahead of the rest of us pathetic newbies.) :)
Stephen Masten has breached his Ministerial Oath.
Therefore, he has been expelled from Creativity in Bad Standing.
All support & protection within prison has been lifted.

Rev.Cambeul

I read that article - it was considered such life changing news that they bothered to repeat the same garbage in the Australian media. I noted the article's bogus claims that to this date no scientist has been able to duplicate or scientifically explain the occurrences of so-called Near Death Experiences. The fact is, scientists long ago figured out the cause of almost everything that fits under the title of Near Death Experiences, with their first clues coming from pilots affected by G-Forces. Basically, Near Death Experiences are caused by and can be duplicated by loss of blood and oxygen to the brain.
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 I recently re read the Creativity Books in full. I remember one thing though I did not note it. It was that humans on the whole will automatically opt for escapism rather than reality. Escapism offers salvation without having to raise a finger and is the easy option. To deliberately choose the difficult option is a rare thing and reflects the difficulty Creators have in expanding their Religion compared to any number of shallow lying scams offering wealth, women, eternity, immortality etc.
With Creativity sometimes  it is like "Hi join our club, you can get fired, persecuted, jailed, ostracised, perish in the struggle for racial survival but have the satisfaction it all took place in the real world".
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