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Another Nail in the Coffin for "Out of Africa" Theory

Started by Rev.Cambeul, Sat 01 Aug 2009

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Rev.Cambeul

As to what defines a species rather than a race, I tend to think of us in the same terms we do the Canidae Family, which includes wolves, jackals, hyenas, coyotes, foxes, dingos, and wild and domestic dogs. Each is capable of interbreeding with the other and each is considered to be a separate species, and each contains sub-species or breeds within the individual species. The Australian Abo, the African et al ad nauseam are indeed each a separate species in the same manner, with their own subspecies beyond there.

Put it this way, we are not all human. Sure, we White people from Europe are, as debatably are some Asians and even Jews and Arabs; but we along with the great-apes and niggers are all part of the Hominidae Family. As Wikipedia says:

Quote from: WikipediaThe Hominidae (/hɒˈmɪnɨdiː/; also known as (humans and the) great apes form a taxonomic family of primates, including four extant genera:
chimpanzees (Pan) – 2 species
gorillas (Gorilla) – 2 species
humans (Homo) – 1 species
orangutans (Pongo) – 2 species
niggers (Pongis Terriblis) - hundreds of species.

The term "hominid" is also used in the more restricted sense as hominins or "humans and relatives of humans closer than chimpanzees". In this usage, all hominid species other than Homo sapiens are extinct listed as niggers. A number of known extinct genera are grouped with humans in the Homininae subfamily, others with orangutans in the Ponginae subfamily. The most recent common ancestor of the Hominidae lived roughly 14 million years ago, when the ancestors of the orangutans speciated from the ancestors of the other three genera.

Gorillas are not of the Homo sapiens sapiens family and so are therefore like the other apes and niggers, not human.

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"All the ancestors of contemporary Europeans apparently did not migrate out of Africa as previously believed. According to a new analysis of more than 5,000 teeth from long-perished members of the genus Homo and the closely related Australopithecus, many early settlers hailed from Asia." - Scientific American

"The whole Out of Africa myth has its roots in the mainstream academic campaign in the 1990′s to remove the concept of Race. When I did my degree they all spent a lot of time on the Out of Africa thing but it's been completely disproved by genetics. Mainstream still hold on to it." - Historian Greg Jefferys

"The finding that the Europeoid haplogroups did not descend from "African" haplogroups A or B is supported by the fact that bearers of the Europeoid haplogroups, as well as all non-African haplogroups do not carry either SNPs M91, P97, M31, P82, M23, M114, P262, M32, M59, P289, P291, P102, M13, M171, M118 (haplogroup A and its subclades SNPs) or M60, M181, P90 (haplogroup B), as it was shown recently in "Walk through Y" FTDNA Project (the reference is incorporated therein) on several hundred people from various haplogroups." - Klyosov, A. & Rozhanskii, I.

"The Paglicci 23 individual carried a mtDNA sequence that is still common in Europe, and which radically differs from those of the almost contemporary Neandertals, demonstrating a genealogical continuity across 28,000 years, from Cro-Magnoid to modern Europeans. Because all potential sources of modern DNA contamination are known, the Paglicci 23 sample will offer a unique opportunity to get insight for the first time into the nuclear genes of early modern Europeans." - Caramelli D, Milani L, Vai S, Modi A, Pecchioli E, Girardi M
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Quote from: Rev.Logic on Sun 23 Feb 2014

I have no problem with my race having evolved out of something more primitive.  Therefore I am not really bothered about the "Out of Africa" issue.  Why should I be?

There is no doubt we evolved from sub-humans and are vaguely related to niggers. What the question is, is how closely related are we and how much history do we share?
If I was someone's brother, I'd feel very closely connected to them genetically. If I was their 3rd cousin once removed, I wouldn't have that same bond would I?
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http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/technology/science/ancient-human-teeth-discovered-in-china-could-rewrite-the-historic-migration-map-of-homo-sapiens/story-fnjwl5wr-1227573222217

HUMAN teeth discovered in southern China provide evidence that our species left the African continent up to 70,000 years earlier than prevailing theories suggest, new published research finds.


Homo sapiens reached present-day China 80,000-120,000 years ago, according to the study, which could redraw the migration map for modern humans.

"The model that is generally accepted is that modern humans left Africa only 50,000 years ago," said Maria Martinon-Torres, a researcher at University College London and a co-author of the study.

"In this case, we are saying the Homo sapiens were out of Africa much earlier," she told the peer-reviewed journal Nature, which published the study.

While the route they travelled remains unknown, previous research suggests the most likely path out of East Africa to east Asia was across the Arabian Peninsula and the Middle East.

The findings also mean that the first truly modern humans — thought to have emerged in east Africa some 200,000 years ago — landed in China well before they went to Europe.
There is no evidence to suggest that Homo sapiens entered the European continent earlier than 45,000 years ago, at least 40,000 years after they showed up in present-day China.

The 47 teeth exhumed from a knee-deep layer of grey, sandy clay inside the Fuyan Cave near the town of Daoxian closely resemble the dental gear of "contemporary humans," according to the study.

They could only have come from a population that migrated from Africa, rather than one that evolved from an another species of early man such as the extinct Homo erectus, the authors said.

The scientists also unearthed the remains of some 38 mammals, including specimens of five extinct species, one of them a giant panda larger than those in existence today.


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Europe the birthplace of humankind, not Africa: scientists

http://www.news.com.au/technology/science/evolution/scientists-discover-europe-was-the-birthplace-of-mankind-not-africa/news-story/ed5db48386d9ba6a034f964678de8f3a

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2017/05/22/europe-birthplace-mankind-not-africa-scientists-find

EVERYTHING we might know about the history of human evolution could be wrong, with scientists postulating that Africa may not be the birthplace of man.

Scientists have traced the first hominid species to Europe some 7.2 million years ago, thanks to the discovery of two apelike fossils with human-like teeth in Bulgaria and Greece.

Until the unearthing, experts believed human lineage split from apes some seven million years ago in Africa.

The findings, published by an international team of researchers in the journal Plos One, claim the fossils are solid evidence evolution started in the Mediterranean region 200,000 years earlier than it did in Africa.

Researcher Professor Nikolai Spassov said the creature, named Graecopithecus freybergi (El Graeco), likely saw a shift towards bipedalism to help find new food sources in eastern Europe's open savanna.

"This study changes the ideas related to the knowledge about the time and the place of the first steps of the humankind," he told The Telegraph.

"Graecopithecus is not an ape. He is a member of the tribe of hominins and the direct ancestor of homo.

"The food of the Graecopithecus was related to the rather dry and hard savanna vegetation, unlike that of the recent great apes which are living in forests. Therefore, like humans, he has wide molars and thick enamel.

"To some extent this is a newly discovered missing link. But missing links will always exist, because evolution is an infinite chain of subsequent forms. Probably El Graeco's face will resemble a great ape, with shorter canines."

Lead researcher Professor Madelaine Böhme said computer tomography helped visualise the internal structures of the fossils, which showed the roots of an upper premolar tooth were fused — this led to the conclusion the species was a hominid.

"While great apes typically have two or three separate and diverging roots, the roots of Graecopithecus converge and are partially fused — a feature that is characteristic of modern humans, early humans and several pre-humans," she said.

As the Mediterranean Sea would periodically dry during this time, researchers believed the early hominids were able to pass between Europe and Africa.

Professor Böhme said the theory would alter the very beginning of human history if accepted.

"Our findings may eventually change our ideas about the origin of humanity. I personally don't think that the descendants of Graecopithecus die out, they may have spread to Africa later," she said.

"The split of chimps and humans was a single event. Our data support the view that this split was happening in the eastern Mediterranean — not in Africa."
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