Nature's Eternal Religion: New 2015 Edition Edit

[Chuck]

Come on, people, post as many errors as you can find. You cannot be too pedantic!

[Rev.Cambeul]

NER is now complete and ready for proof reading.

Do not confuse the book's American English with British English. I do not care if Founder Klassen used a mixture of British and American English, the entire book is now consistently American English.

If you have commentary that you think should be added, present it as [Note: ....] and it will be considered. The idea is to update NER with Notes, which we will place at the rear of the book.

A new cover will soon be designed to separate it from the garbage put out by profiteers.

@Cailen.

[Albert]

I am now returned to the forum because I have been informed the books are being reprinted with corrections. Needless to say it will take me some time to get through the pdfs. My first question is why do we have to do it via pdf? There exists the technology now to simply scan the original 1973 of  Natures Eternal Religion as it was intended to be seen.


The principle for me regarding any reprinting must be that Creativity is unalterable (i.e unalterable to the letter). Afterall, if any tinkering occurs- then what is to stop further tinkering in the centuries ahead until, like Christianity, it is a completely different "animal" from what was originally intended.
Tinkering is very dangerous and  leads to the potentiality for schism and argument a thousand years from now.... with the possibility of consequent wars and slaughter that have plagued catholic/ protestant divide.
Likewise the Sunni/shia divide. (Note that the slaughter between Shia and Sunni simply stems from who should have be Mohammeds successor; his son in law or his loyal friend.


In my view Creativity was and is perfect. The covers, the subsequent corrections made by Ben Klassen  for the second edition are legitimate also. I agree that any new edition may contain page footnotes for clarity but the original text and spelling (unless an obvious error) must be regarded as sacred, Holy and unalterable.

[Rev.Cambeul]

Get over the idea of scanning and printing. Printing from scan to image leads to an inferior book - and the 1973 version certainly had its share of mistakes, as you rightly know Albert; as does the Second Edition. Printing from Scan to text also does not work and is what has led to so many errors in the past, which was how Hale's authorised and altered versions of our books were released electronically.

And then we have the problem of damned idiots in England and the US that think anything that doesn't fit with their own personal misconceptions is incorrect. Of course they do not challenge Founder Klassen's original work, but instead accuse me or our Church of utter and total failure because a word appears differently from the way they personally like it. Yes, many of you that have criticised our earlier efforts that were admittedly error prone because they were STOLEN and used by profiteers BEFORE THEY WERE PROOFREAD are really that pathetic. Founder Klassen used CANADIAN ENGLISH which is a mixture of American and British English, and because you could not accept that, you trashed my efforts far and wide, but then you shut your damned gutless mouths so you wouldn't offend some petty skinhead offshoot of Creativity that first insulted and then stole and praised and printed the same un-proofread and therefore shoddy books lest they show up at your door and give you a boot party. And so, that is the reason why NER is now completely US ENGLISH.

The cover will remain much as it was but with a new image in the centre. After Hale's piss-poor efforts and my marginally better attempt that was hijacked, and the error-prone alterations based on those two out there using the old covers, there is no way in hell I will allow any of our books to use the same cover again. This is a case of our readers being able to safely judge the book by its cover.

Albert, you are not a member of our Church, but I give you the respect you deserve as an ordained Minister of the former premier Church of the Creator under our founder, Ben Klassen. That's why I chose to label you and others from that era that choose not to join our Church, as Independent Creators. Which, to put it bluntly, means you are merely an unofficial Supporter - a Guest with some history that we can relate to. That - and your very useful but Anglicised corrections for NER, which I made extensive use of and I once again thank you for - is why I sent you an invite to partake in the proof reading. However, if you have any problems with that and wish to leave Creator Forum, let me know immediately and I will Disable your account.

And BTW, Albert, I must say thank you for all the assistance you gave with that Arts Reporter from Vice Magazine. You were of great help. I couldn't have done what I did without your sterling efforts.

@Cailen.

[Miss.Jane]

Can we clarify that Ben Klassen referred to NER as "The White Man's Bible" when it was the only book he had written and so it may thus be considered as Part 1 of the White Man's Bible for that reason?  Is that so? 

The book Klassen titled "The White Man's Bible" then followed.

[Chuck]

From the transcript of Founder Klassen's 1976 recording 'Survival of the White Race':

'The creed and philosophy of our religion, called Creativity, is set forth in our book Nature's Eternal Religion. It is the White Man's Bible and its basic goal is not only the survival of the White Race, but also its expansion and advancement.'