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Fake Creators: Creativity Prison Movement Attacks the Creativity Alliance & Rev.Masten Personally

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My Fellow Creators, It has come to my attention that Stephen Masten has resurfaced in Pennsylvania and has managed to worm his way back into the Creativity Movement, even being placed in charge of the pennsylvania branch of The Creativity Alliance. I am quite familiar with Stephen Masten and his past actions, as he was involved in the Creativity Prison Ministries while he was incarcerated and was placed in a leadership position in our church- The Ecclesia Creatoris-after he was released. He even moved out to Porterville, California to live at our Headquarters and served as my Liaison for a time. During his time as my Liaision, he actively worked to create dissension in the ranks of our church, attempting to drive a wedge between Reverend Jeff Lodor and myself, and sabotage our efforts to find common ground with other Church factions, deliberately misleading both myself and Reverend James Logsdon of The Creativity Movement of what the others intentions were. Stephen was eventually given the option to resign from his positions or have them stripped from him as a result of his failure to fulfill his duties and engaging in activities unbecoming a Creator. He chose to resign, moved out of our HQ and began acting as a criminal thug in Porterville. After a short time, he had a falling out with one of his cronies and began carrying a gun in preperation for a confrontation with his former friend. However, before this showdown took place Stephen was arrested for carrying a loaded and concealed .357 Magnum. In California, an ex-felon carrying a gun is a mandatory five year prison sentence. There are no exceptions to this rule. Yet Stephen found a way to serve only six months in County Jail and be released with a suspended sentence: He became an informant for the authorities and tried to take down the Church. While in County Jail, he came across Rev Lodor , who was being held on charges of commiting a " Hate Crime" ( he posted a Creator Skinhead Movement flyer on the window of a jewish-owned jewlery store). Rev Lodor was subsequently released with no charges filed, and , surprisingly , Stephen was released right around the same time- after having established a connection with Rev Lodor and getting him to agree to allow him (Stephen) to move back in at our HQ. Against my advice, Stephen was allowed to stay at HQ again, and it didn't take long for Stephen to get to work. Stephen contacted me trying to gain my confidence and get information on our future plans and activites. I told him bluntly that I didn't trust him and was suspicious of his being released from jail when he should be serving time in prison. Almost immediately after that, the FBI, ATF and Washington State Police raided the home of Reverend Patrick Noble and arrested him on suspicion of organizing a Criminal organization for the purpose of commiting hate crimes, and conspiring to overthrow the U.S. Government. After Rev. Noble was arrested, Stephen stole property from our HQ (including many of our holy books) and went into hiding- never to contact us again. If you are naive enough to believe this could be a coincidence (ignoring the fact that he stole from us and disappeared after an arrest was made and he was already under suspicion), take into consiederation the fact that after Stephen took off, the charges against Rev. Noble were dismissed due to the fact that prosecutions witness had disappeared. Furthermore, Stephen has remained in hiding for a few years hoping this would blow over. Finally, friendly elements in the Porterville Law Enforcement communtiy have made it clear that Stephen had an agreement to work as an informant, and currently has a warrant out for his arrest for failing to live up to his end of the bargain. The resurfacing of Stephen Masten in a leadership postion in our Movement is a concern to us all-perhaps he is in trouble again and trying to find a way to take down large portions of the Movement to save himself. I urge everyone in the Movement to avoid this man and to avoid any who have ties to him if you wish to avoid being arrested on trumped-up charges and thrown in prison. My duty to warn others of the treachery of this treasonous informant being done, I will allow you to make your own decisions. Anyone desiring more information should feel free to contact us at the addresses provided below. Keep up the fight and never give in, my Brothers and Sisters. We will prevail in the end, despite the treason which threatens our existence. RAHOWA!
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The line i find most interesting.........."Finally, friendly elements in the Porterville Law Enforcement communtiy have made it clear that Stephen had an agreement to work as an informant, and currently has a warrant out for his arrest for failing to live up to his end of the bargain."...........

So the author of the post is communicating with the police? And Rev. Stephen has a warrant for not sharing information with the police? :-\

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Well, Mike Todd has just burned his bridges (there's more, but I wont waste my energy dwelling on it). Todd's running to TCM with information (think gossip) to publicly expose one of our members rather than doing the right thing and acting as a brother should and informing us on the quiet, was not the act of a Creator. So instead of listening to the gossip with an open ear, we choose to reject it, marry it with the information that Reverend Masten and others have already given us on this matter and then as Brother W Smith has done, we find fault with the writer and his willingness to consort with enemies of the Church and so-called "friendly elements" within government law enforcement agencies.

As far as I'm concerned, the Creativity Prison Movement (and whatever other names they claim to go by these days) have just relegated themselves to the same class as TCM and will therefore be treated as such from now on.

Creators within the Alliance who wish to pursue their own form of Creativity Prison Ministries are now free to do so.

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Sounds like a load of tripe to me, as per usual from that gang of deformed inbreeds.

If Rev Masten could go through this statement and dispell/clarify each accusation made, we can throw this where it should be, the trash.

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     RAHOWA!  Racial Loyalist Greetings and Hail to you comrades.  Seeing as how these heinous allegations have been thrown against me, I will take the time to easily dispell Reverend Todd's claims... although I should not have to partake in such slander and backbiting.

     To begin, as I have told many of my comrades in the Creativity Alliance, I did indeed work with the Creativity Prison Ministries and also lived in California with Reverend Todd's family.  I disclosed this information of my own free will.  Would I have done this were I to commit an act of treason against the CPM or the Ecclesia Creatoris?  That would clearly not be sensible.

     To be blunt, I was never asked to resign either, but Rev.  Todd and Rev.  Lodor did grow angry with me due to the fact that I left the Creator Skinhead Movement and joined a separate skinhead organization.  Ironically, I still possess the letter from Reverend Todd telling me that this was treason against my comrades, although in the same letter, he tells me that I will retain my Ministerial title.  I can mail this to Reverend Cambeul, P.M. if he so inclines to read this proof for himself.

     The Porterville home was raided after Reverend Jeff Lodor posted these flyers and used the Creator Skinhead contact point as the same one for the Church.  He also posted his personal cell phone number, which was listed as 'Carolyn Schmidt,' the owner of the home.  It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what was going on there, especially when Reverend Lodor was already under police scrutiny.

     Every confidential informant has a c.i. number.  I urge Reverend Todd, or any of his affiliates, to supply one next to my name, paperwork I signed, a police statement, a statement from court, or a comrade who can say I took the stand.  Without this information, which he does not possess, nor does anyone, because it never occurred, his allegations are bogus.

     I left the CPM for a number of reasons, namely the fact that the leadership was not establishing the Ecclesia Creatoris (Church of the Creator) as our Founder intended.  From the dates of May 8, 2008 to April 9, 2010, I was incarcerated.  This should not be construed as hiding.  Of course I am now active in Pennsylvania, because I was born and raised here.

     Personally, I am wondering why one would claim to have any contact with law enforcement in the first place?  Or to be proud of their involvement with Logsdon?  And yes, I did expose Logsdon for what he is at the time.  Up to this point, I have never slandered the EC or the CPM and have even offered to contact them to consolidate our efforts.  I have also previously informed Reverend Cambeul of my leaving them under disagreeable terms.  However, at this point, such a low blow, as well as their involvement with Logsdon, leaves me no choice but to declare them traitors to Creativity.

     I not only state this due to the personal effect that this has had on me after my devoting years of my life to their cause... but I also declareit as a Guardian of the Faith. 

     If anyone has any questions, please feel free to contact me.  The choice is yours what you will decide, but if you so wish to contact "Reverend" Todd on this matter, I urge you to ask for proof.

     Racially and Creatively Yours for a Whiter and Brighter World,

     Reverend Stephen Masten, PCOC - GFC, Creativity Alliance
                         
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Rev. Masten,

You have nothing to prove to us, Brother.  The burden of proof lies on your accusers, whom have proven themselves to be traitors to our glorious White Race.  We are happy to have you in our ranks.

Rahowa!
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Reverend Masten,

Thank you for taking the time to rebut those accusations. As I've said previously and will say in the future, the best way to combat rumours and slander is not to respond in a similar fashion but to simply provide your answer to the accusations honestly, where people can make up their own minds.

Glad to have you with us Brother.

RAHOWA!

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[T]he best way to combat rumours and slander is not to respond in a similar fashion but to simply provide your answer to the accusations honestly, where people can make up their own minds...

I must respectfully disagree, Rev. S., especially if using this medium to get at the bottom of a disputed claim. "The internet is the perfect medium for the liar," Dr. William Pierce once said, when referring to one Harold Covington, who had at the time been conducting a fierce 'net smear campaign against our National Alliance much as he had against our Church before that -- before the Internet, back in the late 1980s.

There's a special Scum thread devoted to this long time enemy of Creativity, Harold Covington. He and his defenders like to put his side of the story out there on the 'net "where people can make up their own minds." It's a horrible method for getting to the truth of a matter. He could not stand for "his side" to be scrutinized, with him sitting in the defendant's box. He could not prove that Ben Klassen was a Jewish pederast, for example, as he has claimed for over two decades, because it was not true. He had no proof. He made up his "proof" from whole cloth. That's what fiction writers do. Covington writes fiction. Duh!

The best, most time-tested method for determining the truth of a claim is in an impartial court, with both sides given full airing, under oath, under strict rules of evidence, and under penalty of punishment for giving perjured testimony. It's a White thing, albeit our system has been co-opted presently by JOG. Sometimes we can still get it to work for us. Get the Rule Book and use it or lose it.
Former Hasta Primus for P.M. Ben Klassen with the Church of the Creator at North Carolina and later the right-hand man for Dr William Pierce with the National Alliance. Currently the Chairman of the National Alliance.


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You are quite right! Ultimately, the best way to defeat the liar and defamer once and for all is an impartial court with consequences to be dealt out to the party found to be wrong. However, most of us do not have access to a court of law, let alone one that we can honestly call impartial.

This is why if somebody is slandering me, as has been done on numerous occasion, I dispel each of the accusations made against me in a public forum for all to see and say nothing more on the matter. Those that know me will take my word as the truth, those that would lie about and defame me will continue regardless. I cannot stop the liar but I can make my defence available, rather than allowing the lies to go unanswered.

If Rev Masten has the means and the motivation to take this matter to a civil court, I encourage him and wish him all the best.

RAHOWA!

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I think we should take all threats of infiltration seriously but give our members the benefit of the doubt to defend themselves.

I can say here in the USA if you are a rat, there will be paperwork on it, especially court documents just like Rev Masten says. Any charges pressed would have a signed police report. Any witnesses would have stacks of court documents on their testimony etc. I think our main threat would be paid informants/agents but even they still have to appear in court and sign papers when it comes down to a trial and this information would be known even in pre-trial.

In this case the people making the accusations had a grudge against him and from what I've heard are known liars.

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Which reminds me, I threw about fifty out of this forum the other day and put some others in ROP's until they prove themselves one way or another; one of which is Bro.Shotwell Hidden to Guests of the Creativity Skinhead Movement, which is attached to Mike Todd's Creative Prison Ministries and therefore shares the TCM trademark of arrogance and fantasy role playing where a sticker on a rubbish bin and an email sent out is the highlight of a year's activism.

Anyone you see listed in yellow when online is in the ROP's (Restriction of Privileges group) and should be tested by members who come across them.

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Racial loyalist Greetings and Hail to you Comrades! My name is Brother Shotwell from Las Vegas. I been out of action for a few months and i want to make amends to my fellow Creators. I havnt been doing my part . I been putting all my time into building my life and stepping out of the skinhead life style and focusing on moving up in the company i work for. I Will be back and i will be a better man. RAHOWA

Shotwell is either telling the truth about stepping out of the Skinhead lifestyle, or he is here to cause trouble. Keep an eye on him.

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Email from Reverend Masten.

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        RAHOWA!  Racial Loyalist Greetings and Hail to you comrade.  I am still bouncing from one spot to another, but have very good news pertaining to my circumstances.  I have a job lined up to start next week.  It's at a temp. agency, but it's something for now... and a laptop with wireless internet will be my first purchase with my paycheck to stay in touch and continue with Church activities and online meetings.

 The library has blocked access to our site, so please, share this email with Reverend Starb and post it on the forum for me because it will also cover other areas that may need to be known to our members.  I will certainly appreciate it if you can do this for me comrade.
 
        I also contacted Sister Carolyn Schmidt, Mike Todd's grandmother, about the post which was placed on TCM's webpage that slandered my name and depicted me as a traitor to the Church of the Creator.  I was told that Mike Todd did not like some of the material that I had written in a post which said that I did not support any faction of the "COTC" until I came across the Creativity Alliance.  It also stated that I attempted to work with and alongside many factions prior to leaving for their lack of establishing the Church per the Creed, as Klassen intended.
 
        While I find this to be quite childish and ineffective in their attempt to remove me from the movement after all I have done for the Ecclesia Creatoris and the Creativity Prison Ministries, I took the time to tell them their spy that has an account here (and suppiled them with this information) can also supply them with my response.  She had alot of questions about the Creativity Alliance, which I did not supply answers to.  I told her the aims and goals of the CA... but our Leadership and duties are not their concern.
 
        She seemed eager to speak with me again, and I am trying to get their mess with my name cleaned up, so I will contact her again.  I will keep you updated on any correspondence I have with her and what is going on with the situation.  I refuse to work with them at this point, but I did have a good relationship with Carol as a friend over the years.  We will see what comes of the situation.

Racially and Creatively Yours for a Whiter and Brighter World, RAHOWA! 
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Re: Fake Creators: Creativity Prison Movement Attacks CA & Rev.Masten
« Reply #13 on: 11 October 2010 at 18:52 »
11, October, 37 Anno Creativitatis

RAHOWA!  Racial Loyalist Greetings and Hail to you comrades.  I have had a few of our members ask me, out of concern for the Creativity Alliance, about my past dealings with other factions and my criminal history.  I can certainly see how this could be a concern, and will here explain these concerns which have been addressed to me for all of our members, rather than the select few who I have already informed on these matters.

I was introduced to Creativity at the age of 18, in September of 2001.  Unfortunately, at this point, I as at a very harsh point in my life, serving time in Bucks County Correctional Facility.  For 6 years prior, I was already a skinhead and quite the rowdy and rambunctious youth.  ACreator by the name of Richard Kayto approached me and gave me The Five Fundamental Beliefs of Creativity.  It was all the literature that he had and I read it until it was memorized.  However, there was a slight dilemma, while we were awaiting his people to forward us the WCOTC P.O. Box, we were separated and lost touch for some time. 

Between the years of 2001 and 2003, I came across various Creativity literature, always poring over it and keeping it on file... but I never had a contact for the Church.  I was also still quite aggressive and kept the skinhead mentality at that time.  In 2002, after a very brief release from jail, I found myself doing four years straight.  It was in the second year of this dilemma that I fully embraced the Creed with a fervent passion.  This was in 2003.  By the time I got the WCOTC P.O.  Box though, Hale was already incarcerated and no one was responding my correspondence.

I did not lose hope though.  I continued poring over literature and and reading our Holy Books, fervently disseminating the Creed to all who would listen.

In early 2004, while reading an old newsletter called Stormbird Press, I came across an address for the Creativity Prison Ministries.  It was at this point that I joined the CPM.

I want to make it very clear that at that point, Reverend Mike Todd was only operating the prison ministry, which he reconstructed, to assist incarcerated Creators and interested parties in obtaining our religious materials, assisting in civil suits for denials, and organizing a ranking system for incarcerated adherents.  The Ecclesia Creatoris did not exist then.

I was released in April of 2006 and moved to Lincoln University, Pennsylvania, where I opened up my own P.O. Box and began handling the bulk of the correspondence for the Creativity Prison Ministries, as well as Rev. Todd's mail issues.  (He is incarcerated himself in California serving a life sentence.)

While I was satisfied with this method of activism, it was not enough.  I distributed literature and so forth, but had no Church to refer people to.  I knew of Deardorff's removal from the Church, Stanko's removal, and knew the RSM in Pittsburgh was a joke.  None of the other factions were operating as Klassen intended with the Organizational Structure for the continuity of the Church.  I had never heard of TCM.

I began contacting as many Creators as I could find, in order to see who they were operating under and if any of the factions were worth my joining.  It was at this point that Rev. Dick Liggett, formerly WCOTC, told me about Logsdon's lot over at TCM.

I asked Rev. Todd about Logsdon and TCM ad was told that Logsdon never answered his correspondence when he reached out to him at the point Hale was arrested.  He also said he refused to work alongside him and would hand the CPM over to no one... regardless of how organized, structured, and active a Church or movement may be.  As for myself, I wanted to see what TCM wa about, as Rev. Todd had not necessarily given me a legitimate analysis of them other than a lack of correspondence.

I contacted Rev. Liggett and obtained Logsdon's phone number.  In fall of 2006, I joined TCM for all of about 2 or 3 months.  To the point, it did not take long for me to realize that Logsdon was a fraud.  I walked out on TCM by winter of 2006, stuck with the CPM without having official membership with anyone, and eventually went to California to live with Rev. Todd's grandmother and operate the CPM from the main P.O.  Box there.

During the course of the end of 2006 - early 2007, we all decided to reconstruct the Church s Klassen intended.  We elected a Council that had a capacity to hod ten seats... but we only filled the first five.  This was to be a temporary Leadership until we could rebuild the GFC and elect a P.M.  Mind you also, I was not aware of Rev. Cambeul's efforts towards Creativity at that point either.

By mid 2007, unfortunately, the troubles began with the CPM, and the Ecclesia Creatoris (the title we gave our Church).  It became apparent that the Council was going to remain, Rev. Todd was trying to operate the Church from a prison cell, and that w would not be electing a P.M., rebuilding a GFC, or even working alongside anyone for that matter.  It was also in the plan that if an activist Church were to arise from the ashes of the WCOTC, we would hand over our projects, yet still operate them under the consolidation with other solid Creators.  Apparently, Rev. Todd determined this was not on his agenda either.  To date, he still operates his "Church" from a prison cell.  This validates the aforementioned.

I began speaking out about all of this and it caused alot of unnecessary strife and dissention amongst our ranks.  As a matter o fact, Rev. Todd told anothermember to 'teach me a lesson' after I quit all of my Leadership positions and only retained my title of Ordained Minister.

This member was Jeff Lodor, who is now in prison, and after we fought, he held a severe grudge.  Through someone I know, I heard e was going to try to stab me.  I purchased a gun for self defense... a grave mistake when you are a convicted felon.

During a random police stop, I was found with the firearm.  It was only a felon in possession of a concealed weapon charge... and it was not loaded.  I plead guilty to one year, followed by four years of state parole.

At that point, I ceased ll dealings with EC/CPM.  I fled California's parole and came back home to Pennsylvania to be with my family and friends and simply operate my own Primary Group in hopes that a rue Church would arise.  In early 2008, an old case popped up from when I was 18 yearsold and I was sentenced to 11 and a half to 23 months in Philadelphia County.  It was a robbery which I plead guilty to.  California decided that they would not extradite, and upon my release in April of 2010, I began looking into the Creativity Alliance.

While I understand that I may have lied a rough life, Creativity has changed me.  I am hoping that this missive will allow each of you a bit of insight into my history and who I am.  If you have any questions or comments, please feel free to contact me.

Racially and Creatively Yours for a Whiter and Brighter World, RAHOWA!

Reverend Stephen Masten, Philadelphia Church of Creativity
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Re: Fake Creators: Creativity Prison Movement Attacks CA & Rev.Masten
« Reply #14 on: 01 November 2010 at 07:44 »
Hopefully that answers any questions people have as to the uselessness of CPM and EC, and their habitual bagging of people who leave them.

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I was ordained back in '90 and stepped out of Creativity for a few years (got side tracked and frustrated with local groups). I retook the exam in 2000 and went from there. I've been pretty active but to be honest not as active as I should be lately. I hooked up with the CPM (dont shoot me please LOL) and helped them get rolling while I was locked up in the Federal system. I will say they were just about the only Creators that would respond to my and other Creator's letters back then. Granted I was in Max Security and letters censored but they still got through and escpeially Sister Carol's letters and support. Upon my release from the Fed's I kept helping them until a while back (look under the post I believe titled "an open letter of Rev. Mike Todd Re: Stephen Masten" and I am the Rev. Patrick Noble that they discuss..). After I was rearressted for conspiracy to overthrow the government, etc... which was total bs.. and found out that a fellow member was ratting me out I stepped away from them and have been doing my own thing for now. I am still willing to work with a few of them because I know they are true Creators and are doing a good thing for prisoners. That being said, I have seen a lot of good things here on this site and have contacted a few of the Creators on here in the past and now in the present.

... am getting remotivated but still "gun shy" of rats out there but I guess thats the price and risk we take/pay for doing what we do.
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Re: Fake Creators: Creativity Prison Movement Attacks CA & Rev.Masten
« Reply #16 on: 05 September 2018 at 04:16 »
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Re: Fake Creators: Creativity Prison Movement Attacks CA & Rev.Masten
« Reply #17 on: 05 September 2018 at 22:02 »
Creativity is an individual path of every Creator does not matter about group. Jews did not have their own organization when the lived outside. They only had their holy books and male in family who has been Rabbi and who sud not waste their time who is or who is not jew. Same is with us,instead od fighting with all of us who are Klassen supporters rather be concentrated on his holy books and our future generations of Creators who will forget for conflicts of old generations and have only one Curch on the final. Rather be priest in your own family than except parent treatment of people who can not govern their house,live with patents till the end,did not employee any white person etc.
I am still learning English. Please forgive any errors you may see.

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« Reply #18 on: 05 September 2018 at 22:31 »
Brother Rebel, if we believed as you do, we wouldn't be here. Creativity would be run by American Skinheads ONLY. When they took over the WCOTC post office box, they attempted to oust everyone that was 1. Not a Skinhead, and 2. Not American. So, instead of in turn rejecting the Skinheads that had rejected us and continuing on with a figurative knife lodged deep in our backs as we did, we could have abandoned Creativity as a lost cause. And without our Brotherhood that instead kept us together, abandonment would have been the most likely outcome.

And trust me, many many good Brothers and Sisters did abandon Creativity.

... But that was nearly two decades ago and WE refused to abandon Creativity. We maintained our Brotherhood. We evolved, we matured and we grew. Good books do not make a cause - it's Dedication and Unity that make a cause. And the good books - the Holy Books of Creativity - are the single reason for our Dedication and Unity, and for the existence of the Creativity Alliance.

Anyway, that's part of our long and tortuous history. Don't dwell on it. Simply ensure that history does not repeat itself.
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And the reason for my bump post above was in response to someone who contacted me, confused. My intention was to add enough information so the uninitiated reader would understand. It's not a topic I care to discuss. If anyone is interested, all the information anyone needs is available in the older posts of this topic and on our History Page on the main website.

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