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Title: Jews LEAVING ultra-Orthodox judaism
Post by: SethCochran on Mon 13 Sep 2010
http://friendlyatheist.com/2010/09/12/leaving-ultra-orthodox-judaism/ (http://friendlyatheist.com/2010/09/12/leaving-ultra-orthodox-judaism/)

QuoteMatan (a pseudonym like all names in this article) was an ultra-Orthodox Jew who stopped believing several years ago. "I don't believe there is a God, but I also don't really rule it out," he said. "It can't have an unequivocal answer. Our understanding as humans ends somewhere...Religion tells you exactly how to understand things, how to interpret them. This is exactly the problem."

Matan was not alone. He was part of a growing phenomenon found deep within ultra-Orthodox society, part of a large group of haredim of all streams and divisions who call themselves the "Marranos," secret Jews – haredim against their will, who have stopped believing, but are forced to live a lie and hide it from the people around them. But contrary to haredim who openly leave behid the faith to live a secular lifestyle, these "Marranos" look ultra-Orthodox on the outside, but their inner world is the exact opposite.


I believe that we, as Creators (not necessarily on behalf of the Alliance), should spread and encourage this either in an official capacity representing our religion, or simply as individuals who want people to come to a scientific understanding of the world.  Obviously, the latter would be more effective.  Either way, it advances our goals.  Delenda est Judaica!
Title: Re: Jews LEAVING ultra-Orthodox judaism
Post by: ScottHarrison on Tue 14 Sep 2010
I promote atheism wherever I go, whether the individual I'm speaking to knows I'm a Creator or not. I've always thought (even before I was a Creator) that if we are to have a sane and rational society, it cannot involve Christinsanity or any other spook worship. Breaking down the dogma and myths of superstition and gullibility is a primary responsibility of Creators - however we do it, it must be done!

I was raised in an atheist household and was brought up to have a skeptical and even hostile view of theistic religions. Even coming out in my family household and saying I had a *religion* was a big deal - despite it being Nature-based and non-Abrahamic.

With that said, I personally find it easier to overcome the arguments of the spook worshipping crowd than I have with the atheist but anti-White liberal crowd. Becoming good at overcoming arguments and bringing people to our logic and solely a case of being well educated and practicing constantly. The more we practice spreading our views, the easier it will become. I've heard people say how good Reverend Hale (for example) was at putting forward an argument on the media, this was because he'd been practicing for years, put in the same dedication to racial activism, read the Holy Books extensively and all Creators can be as good at speaking, if not better, than anybody else - especially our opponents.
Title: Re: Jews LEAVING ultra-Orthodox judaism
Post by: Albert on Wed 29 Sep 2010
Ben Klassen actually disapproved of the term Aetheism thinking it reactionary and a religion in its own right. It gives christians the chance to collectively label and dismiss its opponents as not beleiving in their none existent spook. we may as well be labled anti-quantity -X.
The term  aetheism implies people who beleive in nothing, quite unlike Creators who have a very definite beleif system and world view.

We are Creators who beleive in science, logic, history and common sense. Christians  are  insane spook chasers.
See "A Revolution of Values through Religion, Chapter XI Creativity v Aetheism