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Title: Debate: Evolution vs Creationism
Post by: Jimbo on Tue 19 Oct 2010
Quote from: Rev.Scott on Thu 23 Sep 2010The same as anybody else on this planet, we're not entirely sure but at least we are honest about it. Creators generally believe in the theory of evolution and the big bang theory. There is a lot more evidence of evolution and the big bang theory than there is of any spook in the sky.

i'm some-what adverse to "spruiking" evolution and The Big Bang too much, mainly for these reasons:

i/"evolution" has been, pretty much, co-opted by the judæo-marxists; currently, there is not a great deal of mileage that white racialists can gain from it!

ii/scientific theories are being constantly modified/upgraded/changed.....what is "gospel" today is "trash" tomorrow.....only by sifting through peer-reviewed scientific journals and double & triple checking every-thing in them that pertains to a particular topic will you get any-where near the truth of the matter (and, of course, that's a task well beyond the average punter!).....a good example: "scalar electro-magnetics" & Tesla's theories (http://www.prahlad.org/pub/bearden/scalar_wars.htm)......you can be damn sure! that only the smallest fraction of the actual truth of any scientific matter is "getting through" to the general public!

iii/the media, academia and large parts of the scientific establishment are controlled by ZOG....so.....you're not going to get the TRUTH from them.....on ANY-THING!.....also: there is, now, no such thing as fearless, investigative and independent scientists....most of them work for large, multi-national companies (nearly all of which are controlled by "the Guess Who-s") and are given large grant$ to do so..........naturally: they are not going to "bite the hand that feeds them" and publish any-thing those MNCs dis-like!

all in all, there's nothing in "evolution" to benefit us and advance our main aims: separation from non-white races and our own white home-land, as per David Lane's "Fourteen Words"


QuoteI am trying to find the following books for sale. Nature's Eternal Religion,White Man's Bible,Saluburious Living. I can't find them at bookstores and amazon wants way to much for them

these are good, too!.....lots of free stuff......

http://www.nw-pdfs.tk (http://www.nw-pdfs.tk)

http://www.jrbooksonline.com (http://www.jrbooksonline.com)

http://www.solargeneral.com (http://www.solargeneral.com)


i highly recommend "Which Way Western Man?" by William Gayley Simpson....the full text is, i think, available as a "pdf" dwn/ld @ the "jrbooksonline" link!

cheers!

(Jimbo)


*edit*....sorry!.....WWWM? ain't @ "jrbooksonline"....it's on the Covington/NW site.... WWWM? dwn-ld link (http://sitebuilder.yola.com/sites/S3/D8e7/D057/Dede/Dbee/U8a4986c822ebdfd50122eebede7507e8/8a4986c827d8c3050127f028fb6d3661/resources/public/pdfs//WhichWayWesternMan.pdf)
Title: Debate: Evolution vs Creationism
Post by: Rev.Cambeul on Tue 19 Oct 2010
To deny evolution because the enemy use it is to deny reality. If Creators were to adopt that attitude with everything, we may as well stick our heads in the sand and become known as the Church of Cowards, without the balls to take a stand on any subject in case it agrees with someone we might disagree with.  Furthermore, Creativity is a multidimensional religion, not the one dimensional of "White Separatists" who want to run and hide away in their North West fantasy land.

Thanks for the advice Jimbo, but we will continue to use all rational means at our disposal to defeat the irrational, wherever we find it.

@Cailen.
Title: Debate: Evolution vs Creationism
Post by: Jimbo on Tue 19 Oct 2010
Quote from: Rev.Cambeul.PM on Tue 19 Oct 2010
To deny evolution because the enemy use it is to deny reality. If Creators were to adopt that attitude with everything, we may as well stick our heads in the sand and become known as the Church of Cowards, without the balls to take a stand on any subject in case it agrees with someone we might disagree with.  Furthermore, Creativity is a multidimensional religion, not the one dimensional of "White Separatists" who want to run and hide away in their North West fantasy land.

Thanks for the advice Jimbo, but we will continue to use all rational means at our disposal to defeat the irrational, wherever we find it.

Pontifex Cambeul.

what-evr!....but i, for one, am NOT prepared to align my-self with the likes of Richard Dawkins who is nothing more than a jew shill!

BTW: can you name one, just ONE, "evolutionist" who will speak the truth on RACE?

the only name that i can think of is Nobel Laureate James Watson, the co-discoverer of the DNA molecule, but, i am not even sure if he is an evolutionist.....and....he only made some fairly mild commnets about "race" right at the end of his career, if not his life!

let's face it: almost ALL prominent evolutionists are "in the enemy camp"!

i'd even seriously consider the KKK or CI/Aryan Nations rather than utilising the sort of ZOG-bot trash churned out by the likes of RD and the late, but, dare I say it, hardly lamented jew-boy Stephen Gould....oh...and.....wtf can we say about "Big Banger" Carl "semite" Sagan, eh?!?.....what an effin' ROGUE's GALLERY we have there!

i'll be prepared to take Dawkins seriously when he starts focussing on the second greatest lie......"the Holocaust"!

until then, i don't need him & i don't want him!....or his barmy fckn "theories"!

incidentally: Darwin's most important work was "The Descent of Man".....a quasi-racialist tome.....not "The Origin of the Species" which is full of if-s, maybe-s and could-have-s!.....so much so that it seems to suit the jew-boys to a "tee"!...after all, their whole existence is based on a sub-set of "if-s", "maybe-s" & "could-have-s"!

also: for the record....i'm not an advocate of  "a North West fantasy land" a la Covington....but...i believe a white home-land is a viable idea that should be pursued.....if any-one thinks that we're gunna "reclaim" major portions of the US, Canada, Europe, Australia and/or Sth Africa any time soon, then, quite frankly, they're the ones "living in fantasy land"!

cheers!

(Jimbo)
Title: Debate: Evolution vs Creationism
Post by: Rev.Cambeul on Tue 19 Oct 2010
Quote from: jimbo on Wed 20 Oct 2010i'd even seriously consider the KKK or CI/Aryan Nations

So you'd rather go with the flow and agree with larger group of spook believers - Jews, blacks browns, yellows, reds and retarded Whites - than to think for yourself because the few who disagree with the big lie of the invisible spook creating ... everything, also include a few that you don't like?

I'll just have to keep in mind that you prefer the populist magic of the loony Creationists than the rational beliefs of Creators.

Pontifex Cambeul.
Title: Re: Debate: Evolution vs Creationism
Post by: Sinn on Wed 20 Oct 2010
An interesting article I found on another forum about The Debate:

http://www.articlesafari.com/2010/09/whites-asians-did-not-come-from-africa/ (http://www.articlesafari.com/2010/09/whites-asians-did-not-come-from-africa/)

Geographer claims the races evolved from different ancestors.

A public claim by a fellow of the prestigious Royal Geographic Society that humans did not all come from Africa — and that blacks, whites and Asians have different ancestors — has been dismissed by world experts as "dangerous", "wrong" and "racist".

(http://www.articlesafari.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/extreme_contrasts_11-267x300.jpg)

In a paper widely trumpeted and due for release in book form, Akhil Bakshi, the leader of a recent major scientific expedition supported by India's prime minister, claims that "Negroid", "Caucasian" and "Mongoloid" peoples are not only separate races but separate species, having evolved on different continents. Responding to the claims — developed while Bakshi led the Gondwanaland expedition from India to South Africa — Professor Lee Berger, a leading palaeoanthropologist at the University of the Witwatersrand, immediately insisted that, there were no fundamental differences between the races and that all humans had the same genetic and physical roots in Africa.

The prevalent scientific theory of modern humans — the "Out of Africa" model — is that they left Africa just 55000 years ago and replaced the last remnants of other ancient hominids living in Europe, Asia and elsewhere.

The old biological racial distinctions of "Caucasian", "Negroid" and "Mongoloid" have recently been abandoned by mainstream scientists — removed, for instance, from the US National Library of Medicine in 2003.

Bakshi has become a self-declared champion of a minority scientific view called "multiregionalism", which claims that modern humans evolved from separate hominid populations. Hominids encompass all humans and the ancient family of human-like ancestors, including large-brained ancient ancestors and unsuccessful species such as Neanderthals.
However, Bakshi — who has no training as an anthropologist — has linked to this model a theory that these populations evolved according to the genetic material left behind when the prehistoric supercontinents, the northern Laurasia and the southern Gondwanaland, broke up. An influential figure in India, Bakshi is also a filmmaker and author who has led four major scientific expeditions since 1994. Bakshi admitted to the Sunday Times that "some of my points may prove to be wrong, and may be seen as politically incorrect.

He claims indigenous "Negroid" populations occur in places like Australia, India, Sri Lanka, the Philippines and the Andaman Islands not because they moved there from Africa, but because all these land masses were once part of Gondwanaland — and that all evolved separately. Whites, according to Bakshi, are from Laurasia and blacks are from Gondwanaland. He argues that, 60000 years ago, humans could not have crossed vast oceans and deserts to reach remote places like Australia and North America, and they must therefore have evolved there.

"His is a highly confused argument which jumps enormous levels, which are quite impossible to link," Tobias said.
However, he added that the true picture of modern humanity's precise departure from Africa was far from clear-cut.
Title: Re: Debate: Evolution vs Creationism
Post by: Jimbo on Wed 20 Oct 2010
QuoteIn a paper widely trumpeted and due for release in book form, Akhil Bakshi, the leader of a recent major scientific expedition supported by India's prime minister, claims that "Negroid", "Caucasian" and "Mongoloid" peoples are not only separate races but separate species, having evolved on different continents. Responding to the claims — developed while Bakshi led the Gondwanaland expedition from India to South Africa — Professor Lee Berger, a leading palaeoanthropologist at the University of the Witwatersrand, immediately insisted that, there were no fundamental differences between the races and that all humans had the same genetic and physical roots in Africa

a bit more acceptable than "the-out-of-Afreaka" hypothesis which has Aryans being "related" to mud buggers and grub-flippers!

i categorically refuse to accept that i'm "related" to effin' niggers or kikez....how-ever effin' "distant"!

"Professor Lee Berger"......i'm "plonking" for a kike....there-fore....any-fucking-thing he sez can, quite safely, be ignored!

is it a jew?

then: it's an effin' LIE!

"Bakshi" is, also, doubtless going on the irrefutable genetic evidence which has massive canyons of "haplotypic" difference between whites and non-whites.....especially between Caucasians and niggers and gooks!

(jews are a bit more "problematic" because a goodly % have STOLEN white DNA in their filthy effin' carcasses!..... &:( ......generally, though, they're some-where between a "chigger" and a nigger/gook!....and quite a significant incremental difference exists between them and Aryans on the haplotype genome map!)


Quote"His is a highly confused argument which jumps enormous levels, which are quite impossible to link," Tobias said

uhh.....yeh!!.....he would say that, wouldn't he?....more than his career or, indeed, his life would be worth to say OTW!


QuoteHowever, he added that the true picture of modern humanity's precise departure from Africa was far from clear-cut

do tell!

a faint glimmer of "honesty" from Prfssr Phillip V Tobias! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phillip_V._Tobias)


cheers!


(Jimbo)
Title: Re: Debate: Evolution vs Creationism
Post by: SethCochran on Thu 21 Oct 2010
Quote from: jimbo on Wed 20 Oct 2010i categorically refuse to accept that i'm "related" to effin' niggers or kikez....how-ever effin' "distant"!

Jimbo,

You're fooling yourself.

We Creators believe reality is a million times more meaningful than fantasy.

Did you know that you are related to everything that has DNA?  Yep, everything from me to a gnat.  How closely you are related depends on your last common ancestor.

Two siblings are most closely related because their last common ancestor was one generation previous.  Cousins are less related than brothers because their last common ancestor was two generations ago, and so on.  So you are related to the jews, very distantly.  It's important we establish that.  If not we could end up with theories that say White people are the descendants of aliens that visited the Sumerians, and other such nonsense.

Stick to the truth Jimbo.
Title: Re: Debate: Evolution vs Creationism
Post by: SethCochran on Thu 21 Oct 2010
Jimbo,

In your search for the truth, remember:

What is good for the White Race is the highest virtue, and what is bad for the White Race is the ultimate sin.

A Creator is not gullible, and does not easily accept any statement, belief, assertation or assumption that to him is lacking in proof and/or is unreasonable in the light of his own experiences.

A Creator is not superstitious and disdains belief in the supernatural. He will waste no time giving credence to, or playing silly games with imaginary spooks, spirits, gods and demons.

A Creator does not whine, complain or indulge in self-pity, but instead faces problems realistically, gets to the root of problems, and determines to solve them.

I would rather see you struggle with this issue for the rest of your life than to fall into the trap of irrationality and unrealistic belief.
Title: Re: Debate: Evolution vs Creationism
Post by: RaspStarb on Fri 22 Oct 2010
Whites are not related to niggers or chinks in any way.  The old saw of how human DNA and chimpanzee DNA are 98% identical is a misrepresentation of the fact that the genes we have in common are the so-called "junk DNA" which all living things have in common.  When a White woman gives birth, the baby is White, when a nigger sow sh*ts out a niglet, it will always be black.  That is Nature's way and has been for millions of years.  It's the same with an apple tree, the seed will always produce more apples--not cucumbers or poppies.

The White Race developed independent from muds, IN EUROPE, at least 1.8 million years ago!


(http://www.independent.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00240/pg-1-skull_240177t.jpg)


A skull that rewrites the history of man (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/a-skull-that-rewrites-the-history-of-man-1783861.html)


Quote"The Dmanisi hominins are the earliest representatives of our own genus – Homo – outside Africa, and they represent the most primitive population of the species Homo erectus to date. They might be ancestral to all later Homo erectus populations, which would suggest a Eurasian origin of Homo erectus."