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Title: Bookbinding.
Post by: Albert on Sun 20 Feb 2011
About 25 years ago when I was at university we did a module on bookbinding. I always loved the Creativity Books and always wanted to print my own.
I remember we were taught two methods, the traditional glue and bind method of the west and the ancient Japanese version of hand binding.
I noticed the most expensive thing needed was the industrial strength guillotine because its the straight edge that gives the finished book it's professional appearance. (It being able to slice through several hundred pages during trimming.)
About ten years ago when I had one of the early type printers I made about 5 copies of NER on a home printer but I just punched and bound them. I had no guillotine. I bound them in gold card, they looked OK but I just put them to one side. The cost per unit production was about the same as purchase from Matt Hale so I lost interest.
A couple of weeks ago I began to research on the internet about book binding again as it hadn't crossed my mind for many years. I noticed there is a ton of stuff out there.
Important equipment are a clamp ( I never thought of this though it's obvious, I knocked one together with wood, a couple of bolts and wing nuts. This holds the printed sheets together.
Then a fine 1mm drill. A series of holes down the bound edge and binding with RIBBON. A big needle for sewing was also needed. This is the ancient Japanese (read White) method of book binding. (Books bound this way have lasted 1500 years, as opposed to the western glue method, glue disintegrating after a century)
I decided to knock out some Little White Books as practice. It took me 10 to get fairly proficient producing something I would be proud to sell or give to family and friends.
My next step may be to get a lazer printer at some point as I think it's cheaper and can be used to do decent covers on thicker card.

Oh yeah, ink is so expensive, at $ 8000 a gallon. What we see here is Jews wanting a monopoly on bookbinding, printing and magical ink formulas, another nexus of Jew power.
I think all Creators need to attempt the Art of bookbinding, printing etc to again hammer away at another of the monopolies they control.

links
http://nomediakings.org/doityourself/doityourself_book_press.html (http://nomediakings.org/doityourself/doityourself_book_press.html)
Title: Re: Bookbinding.
Post by: Albert on Sun 20 Feb 2011
I found this one particularly useful
Japanese Stab Book Binding Part 2 - Sewing the Book (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UO-KYuC85sk#)
Title: Re: Bookbinding.
Post by: SethCochran on Sun 20 Feb 2011
Great points brother.

Book binding is an extremely important dying art.  Digital information and computers ultimately can't be trusted.  Without electricity you can't read the PDF format of Nature's Eternal Religion, and the information is lost.  See, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Dark_Age (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Dark_Age)

I am of the opinion that we need to move our people away from electronics and back to nature because, though useful, electronics are at best a temporary convenience.  Realistically, the resources and infrastructure don't exist to make them last forever- but our people will last forever.

Here are five reasons why regular books are better than electronic books:

Source:  http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/5_ways_that_paper_books_are_better_than_ebooks.php (http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/5_ways_that_paper_books_are_better_than_ebooks.php)

1. Feel

Paper books just feel good in your hands - even the best designed eReader is a cold, lifeless steely contraption by comparison. Paper books are also seen as "more personal," which was a comment that a number of people made on the previous post. You can become attached to a copy of your favorite novel, or a well thumbed book of poetry. I own a worn copy of the novel 'Catch-22,' which I have read a number of times since my University days - and no eBook could ever replace the memories it evokes whenever I pick that book up...

2. Packaging

I bought a poetry book for Kindle on iPad last week, but it turned out that the eBook was missing half of the image of an obscure painting that adorned the front and back covers of the paper edition. The eBook just had the front cover art, not the back cover art. This is one small example of how paper books can have a more beautiful package than eBooks...

3. Sharing

I noted in the last post that receiving marked up books from a friend is something that can't be duplicated by eBooks - yet. Also, you can't lend a copy of an eBook to someone else. DRM (Digital Rights Management) or incompatible eBook formats prevent that...

4. Keeping

On the topics of DRM [digital rights management] and eBook formats, not only is this an issue for sharing - but for your own future accessibility of books. As Adrian Lafond eloquently noted, "If I "buy" an e-book, read it, put it in storage, and try to re-read it in 10 years (since I "own" it) it's anybody's guess whether there will exist a platform or device on which that will be possible for that particular e-book format and DRM scheme..."

5. Second-hand books

A few people noted that eBooks are still too expensive and that you can't get cheap second-hand copies. Or for that matter, expensive first edition copies...
Title: Re: Bookbinding.
Post by: Albert on Thu 24 Feb 2011
I was watching the documentary Earth without humans and it said that actually our civilisation was just based on paper and digital discs at best. That none of it would last a couple of centuries without degrading. In comparison the ancient Egyptians put down their knowledge on stone and clay tablets that is still around today.
Title: Re: Bookbinding.
Post by: Rev.Cambeul on Fri 25 Feb 2011
Yes, no White man to keep everything running and all knowledge will disappear.
Title: Re: Bookbinding.
Post by: Albert on Sun 13 Mar 2011
Taking this to the next step i have been messing about with ink formulas and now have a decent recipe that can make printing ink for inkjet  for $5o per gallon. Good job I know some chemistry (Pm me if you want the formula). I am now tempted to start printing my own books for family and friends. Its just such a chore though, why do i have to do everything? why haven't we got a decent stock of books. grr!
Title: Re: Bookbinding.
Post by: PaulW on Tue 15 Mar 2011
Something i have been messing around with is felt. Its easy to make using old wool jumpers or even fresh clean wool from a sheep. If made thick its very strong waterproof Ect and if coloured its can make assorts of pictures bags and so on. Bit of work wool and warm water with soap in it as all that's needed. I bet this is how our for fathers Clothed themselves. And even covered there homes.
It not only keeps the old skills going but its fun. Its not something i thought i would ever be doing
But i am happy i give it a go. Going to try smoking my own food soon. To go with the bottling of the veggies Ect for the winter. Bulgaria is the perfect place to go self sufficient.   
Title: Re: Bookbinding.
Post by: Jim on Tue 15 Mar 2011
Book making and canning food is something the we must teach others to do. I am teach my little girl things like that. She is only 5, but teach them young I say. We have chickens =fresh eggs everyday and I share them with family and friends. We eat a few a year. We make a big soup. Getting ready to plant. The little girl LOVE to do things like that and I am happy about it.
Title: Re: Bookbinding.
Post by: Albert on Fri 25 Mar 2011
When I think about how our books were seized and destroyed and desecrated it makes my blood boil. I'm planning now on printing and binding my own Creativity books, initially for family and friends just to see if it can be economically viable.
Title: Re: Bookbinding.
Post by: Jim on Sun 27 Mar 2011
I wish you all the luck and hope you will keep us up to date with this. I am going to TRY it and see what I can do myself.
Title: Re: Bookbinding.
Post by: Nigel on Thu 27 Oct 2011
This makes me happy to see.
I have always been a bit of a puritan when it comes to this kind of thing.. and teach my own son the very basic foundation blocks of survival. Where our food comes from, how to prepare and dress an animal for food.
Now I live in the city, so a few chickens is all we can have.. but thankfully we are still quite a rural country, in that I have mates that are farmers, and within a 30 minute drive. So he gets to see the animals being born etc

The use of these natural materials, wool, skins etc is knowlege that would have been common place 3 generations ago, and now is an indangered species itself!
Bookbinding is something I have always looked into, but never actually got around to. I've looked at the book of Kells, and seen the work those monks did so many centuries ago.. it is fantastic.

Anyway.. (I have a habit of going off in many tangents :-[) I plan to record as many natural things as possible before it is lost to us. A wee 'survival' book if you will.. but more than that, it is also a preserver of culture.