Joel Dufresne

[ChrisSmith]

I found this on C18 Forum and I know Joel was once a friend of yours, Cailen ...

JoelEyes: Joel Dufresne, some of you might remember from the Creativity Movement, has asked that I post this website here for public viewing. He also requests that you review it. All the documents are there for viewing. There is no chance that this is a lie.
Thank you

www.joeldufresnecase.com

Do you guys even care when someone is destroyed in your name? The only people who have shown any concern is HSN.

AusDutch: This is disgraceful-we all need to be aware of this case, as it could happen to any of us at any time. I hope she has a conscience, and decides to come forward and tell the truth,(although I wonder whether this would make any difference now). I can only wish Joel all the best in the future, and I hope something comes about to help him in his fight for justice.


JoelEyes: Thank you very much for the sentiment It has been few and far between and slow in coming. He has only received one one letter from the TCM and that was to beg for supplies he doesn't have for a group that abandoned him at the first sign of trouble.

Then Paddy Steps in to Save the Day  (notice the bad grammar?)

RAHOWANOW:That is a load of *ing bull*!No one abandoned anyone.So please the false accusations against TCM thanks.

JoelEyes: But anyway this is not a referendum about who is righteous between you guys. The issue is about injustice. I don't know if you personally know Joel or all the effort, time and personal sacrifice he made to promote your church but Joel feels he has a right to be angry. He stood in front of a judge and verbally refused to denounce his beliefs and took 50 yrs on the chin without even flinching. You would think your church would be proud to have a guy like him around.
You could post a link to his website like detroitiscrap.com did.

RAHOWANOW: You made a false claim about TCM 'abandoning' someone,which is not true.Of course I cant let that be said without replying.

JoelEyes: After reading this thread to Joel, he asked me to reply. I am quoting his words as he dictates them, by phone, " First off, no one is lying about anything, your attempts to defend the TCM are laudable but misplaced. The problem is not with the group but with your leadership, they know who they are. If support was gushing forth, would this even be an issue? You are obviously being mislead. I have in the last 3 1/2 years only received one letter from any one who was at the time a member of the TCM and that was Patrick O'Sullivan. If there was any assistance forthcoming from the TCM, please show any evidence of it. Who remained in correspondence with me? Who tried to help me find legal assistance? When did the TCM publicly defend me against the charges? When have any of your members done anything to promote my website? Why did that website have to be put together by anyone but yourselves? If the TCM's reputation is damaged it will not be because of this thread, me or anyone who spoke the truth, it will be because of the church's failure to accept responsibility and amend its mistakes."

That is it so far,but ill keep you updated 

Update: Joel's Liaison may be contacted through Creator Forum via the forum profile at
https://creativityalliance.com/forum/profile/JoelDufresne

[Rev.JoelDufresne]

Joel wishes to express his thanks to PM Cambeul for allowing me to join and post at Creator Forum.

Joel Dufresne was an active Creator in the state of Michigan (USA) for half a decade. In 2006, Joel along with his young son, Hale, left Michigan and his wife, Angela. A manhunt began and Joel was eventually arrested. Rather than being charged with kidnapping as was originally intended, Joel was charged with multiple accounts of rape (of his wife) and sentenced to prison for a period of up to 75 years.

The questions we must all ask are:

Was this a custody case that went terribly wrong?
Or was this the JOG trying to rid itself of another Creator?

There is evidence to show that the Joel Dufresne case was no more than a witch hunt. What you believe is your right, but Joel asks that you read the circumstances surrounding his arrest before you make any decision.

Joel is still a Creator, but was immediately denounced upon his arrest by his former crew at TCM. Joel has no love for his former brothers in that group, but he respects Creators that remain true to their creed. Joel does not ask for official endorsement from the Creativity Alliance, but will you as individual Creators offer him some support?

Comments can be left at the JoelDufresne Profile on Creator Forum.

Thank you for your time.

RaHoWa! from Joel

[AdamHansen]

In reference to TCM comment.  It is odd they heroify Ben Smith's haneous cowardly actions but turn their back on Joel.  (((One of their Members))) can tie up an young man and torture him for days and he is still a revered member as well.