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Title: Varg Vikernes Arrested by Thought Police: Uses Creativity as a Scapegoat
Post by: Hidden to Guests on 16 July 2013 at 23:54
Varg Vikernes and his wife arrested on suspicion of planning a 'major' act of terrorism (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-23327165)?

What utter piffle. What a flimsy pretext for apprehending this lovely couple. All because Varg downloaded a copy of Anders Breivik's manifesto and his wife *legally* purchased a few rifles? Anybody who follows the news will be aware that Anders Behring Breivik sent his document out on the morning he went on his rampage in Norway, and his 'book' went viral that very day. If you were to arrest everybody who happens to have the 2083 PDF or word document sitting around their computer some place, the corrupt authorities could have an excuse to arbitrarily arrest hundreds of thousands of people on suspicion of 'preparing a major terrorist act.' It's absolute bloody nonsense. Blatant state persecution of a family that dares to hold 'politically incorrect' opinions.

I also have to raise a severe smile at various controlled news outlets (for example HERE (http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/world/europe/article3817742.ece)) which state that Varg has 'links' to Anders Breivik. What, they are both Norwegian? They both aren't particularly keen on mass immigration? The last I checked, this fine couple were just trying to build a house in the idyllic French countryside for their beautiful burgeoning family, Varg's lovely wife Marie pregnant with their (I think) fourth child, and his fifth. Does that really sound like a man who wishes to go on a wild counterproductive shooting rampage? They simply wished to legally own a few rifles to go hunting in the fertile French countryside, that best garden of the world. To live in harmony with nature and stay true to their European heritage. Nothing more. The thoughts of all good White Loyalists around the globe are with Varg and his family at this time. Hopefully Marie in particular isn't too stressed by this disgusting, Orwellian act of state persecution.

Edit: This was of course written before Varg's anti-Creator, pro-PC stance became known.
Title: Re: Varg Vikernes Arrested by Thought Police: Uses Creativity as a Scapegoat
Post by: Hidden to Guests on 30 October 2013 at 05:19
More news about this Varg person ... he's a frigging loony. Has a problem with anyone born outside Europe. Claims that European Australians will soon become Abo, Americans will soon turn into Redskins, and so on .... I wonder why Varg doesn't look like a slant eyed, puffy faced, squat little brown Eskimo?

And if you want to make it personal, Varg has gone after Creativity in a blatant attempt to improve his odds with the French judicial system.

From my Facebook Page https://www.facebook.com/Rev.Cambeul (https://www.facebook.com/Rev.Cambeul) | October 19, 2013

I have just been informed: Varg Vikernes who's apparently some hero of the black metal scene, has denounced all White Racialists who fight against multiracial DIE-versity and claims that putting down American Indian renegades is an act of genocide, as is the settlement of Australia. And a little bitching there about White Supremacy too, re people - CREATORS https://creativityalliance.com/ (https://creativityalliance.com/) - who reject supremacy over other races and demand separatism - and that's without mention of the ... insults that he dealt out towards Creativity and Creativity's founder. And all this only hours before he fronted the court on trumped up charges because some race-traitors found an excuse to throw some charges at the poor pathetic bastard? ~ Nobody scapegoats CREATIVITY!

Well, if you are a White Racialist or call yourself a White Nationalist, or even a Biological Racialist as some non-aligned atheistic White Racialists do, then you should feel offended. If you don't like Creativity, then do the right thing and keep it to yourself and understand that that if you stand against the enforced racial DIE-versity of Europa and her White Colonies, then you have the right to feel insulted.

Here it is in full:

Quote from: Hidden to Guests
Varg Vikernes - Yesterday

"I read about it [CREATIVITY] about a decade ago. As I see it “The Church of the Creator” is…. it’s “White Supremacy” based on ignorance and hatred for diversity. It’s completely void of anything deep, spiritual or divine, and falls into the same category as atheism and Satanism (Anton LaVey style).

The holidays of this bull* “religion” celebrates e. g. the “White” man’s genocides against other races. And you think that is a good alternative? Come on! Ben Klassen was a *ing freak! He doesn’t even look very “White”."

http://thuleanperspective.com/2013/10/12/divide-et-impera/?cpage=1#comment-55780 (http://thuleanperspective.com/2013/10/12/divide-et-impera/?cpage=1#comment-55780)

EDIT: A few Creators got stuck into Varg about voicing his opinions, but all he's succeeded in doing is digging his grave a lot deeper. Let the world know, that this Varg person is a total crackpot who loves to repeat the accusations of the Politically Correct and treats non-European born Whites as some form of inferior species that is devolving. Read it all yourself and make your own judgement. I'm done with Varg, his fans and his lunacy.


This topic has been moved to the Race Traitor section of Creator Forum. Except for the introductory post, all supporting posts have been deleted. We do not support the self declared enemies of Creativity - no matter who or what they claim to be.

WE BELIEVE that the one and only, true and revolutionary White Racial Religion - Creativity - is the only salvation for the White Race.

Title: Re: arg Vikernes Arrested by Thought Police: Uses Creativity as a Scapegoat
Post by: Hidden to Guests on 04 November 2013 at 12:37
Ooh ooh, is it open season on Varg! I have an essay I wrote :D
Title: Re: Varg Vikernes Arrested by Thought Police: Uses Creativity as a Scapegoat
Post by: Hidden to Guests on 04 November 2013 at 13:33
How about writing him a letter and giving it to him with both barrels? This may be interesting? This guy is supposedly Odinist, why he is scape goating Creativity I don't know.
http://www.burzum.org/eng/contacts.shtml (http://www.burzum.org/eng/contacts.shtml)
fremmedehenvendelser@gmail.com   messages for Varg.
Title: On Varg Vikernes, Just So You Know…
Post by: Hidden to Guests on 04 November 2013 at 14:38
For almost a year now, I have been following the blog of a certain musician by the name of Varg Vikernes, which is called the Thulean Perspective. I only heard about this man after a good friend of mine, a fellow Creator here in England, spoke highly of him and insisted that I should give his music a listen. He was, after all, so I was told, a strong and unapologetic voice for the pro-White Cause.

So I searched his name via Google, read his profile on Wikipedia, then his side of the story on his website, and later stumbled upon a new blog project of his, the Thulean Perspective. As he purported to be a pro-European pagan who voiced his opposition to mass non-white, or ‘Afro-asiatic,’ immigration into Europe and sought to expose the ‘Chosen Tribe’ that blights the White Man’s world, I naturally thought this was an individual worthy of my time.

For those unfamiliar with Varg Vikernes, as I certainly was little more than a year ago, he is a Norwegian musician, born Kristian Vikernes, who founded the one-man-band music project, Burzum (meaning ‘Darkness’ in J. R. R. Tolkien’s ‘Black Speech’), and helped pioneer the ‘Black Metal’ scene during the early ’90’s in his native country.

It appears that Vikernes was associated with a lot of unsavoury characters in this Black Metal scene, many of whom were of a murderous and sociopathic nature. One of which was a fellow Black Metal musician going by the name of ‘Euronymous,’ real name Øystein Aarseth.

In the summer of 1993, after a long dispute with this ‘Euronymous’ character, Vikernes travelled over 300 miles by car from his home town of Bergen to Norway’s capital, Oslo, arriving at his foes home in the early hours of the morning, where he would stab this fellow to death in his own apartment with a blunted pocket knife. He would stab Aarseth numerous times before striking his opponent in the head with as much force as he could muster, penetrating the brain of his victim and thus killing him.

The body of Øystein Aarseth would be found slumped half naked on the stairs of his apartment in a pool of his own blood, caused by multiple stab wounds and glass fragments from a broken window during this macabre altercation. 

Now Vikernes claims that this act of extreme violence was all an act of self-defence against a Marxist degenerate who he believed was planning to murder him. Apparently, so the story goes, this Aarseth character had boasted to friends that he would stun Varg with some kind of electroshock weapon, tie him up and torture him to death while videotaping the event.

Many of us would most probably think that this alleged threat was something worth shrugging off as the idiotic ramblings and bluster of a drug-addled and alcohol-soaked reprobate musician - a man living over 300 miles away - but not Varg. Apparently he made no attempt to ask his future victim if he indeed made such threats, relying instead on gossip and hearsay from his fellow ‘metal heads.’

Some have speculated that there were other, rather petty motives for this brainless attack, including a stupid ‘power struggle’ in the metal scene and that ‘Euronymous’ had been spreading rumours that Vikernes had burned down several churches. Vikernes claimed that Øystein Aarseth planned to murder him so that he could profit from his demise, to hold him up as some kind of Black Metal martyr, a view that many would look upon as a paranoid delusion.

Eventually Varg Vikernes would be arrested and put on trial for his deeds. When police came to arrest him, they found a considerable stash of explosives and ammunition, which some believe he planned to use to commit a terrorist attack on a group of Norwegian anarchist and Marxist riffraff.

During the trial, it was revealed that Varg had attempted to cover his tracks following the murder, but was convicted because an accomplice of his broke down under police pressure and talked. Vikernes also claims that freemasons in the Norwegian establishment were out to get him and make an example out of this ‘fascist,’ ‘satanist’ rebel.

He was also convicted of burning down several historic stave churches (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fantoft_Stave_Church), and would later justify such actions by claiming that a pagan could exact such criminal damage in order to revenge the injustices that had befallen Norse pagans and their places of worship at the hands of Christian zealots. (How about converting the church buildings?)

To further justify his murderous actions, Vikernes claimed that ‘Euronymous’ was a satanist,  a marxist and a short squat mongrel of Lappish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lapps) extraction. 

Vikernes would be sentenced to 21 years in prison for his deeds, which is the maximum sentence in Norway. As the verdict was read out by a stern-faced female judge, the young Vikernes turned to the camera and smiled defiantly.

During his stint in prison, Vikernes was able to continue producing music, showing just how liberal and rehabilitation oriented the Norwegian prison system is, and began writing books that dealt with Norse mythology. He even got involved with various nationalist type groups and contributed many controversial articles to various publications. Material that promoted a return to ‘paganism’ and condemned Judeo-Christianity as an alien belief system to Europe. 

On being granted temporary leave from prison, Vikernes performed a disappearing act, stealing a car - allegedly at gun point - and hiding in the woods. The car contained knives, a gas mask, camouflage clothing, a portable GPS navigator, maps, a compass, a laptop and a mobile phone. Police would find a handgun and an AG3 automatic rifle in a cabin in Rollag (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rollag), where Vikernes had hidden during his escape.

Thanks to the juvenile stupidity as described above, this only added to his prison sentence, ensuring that rather than 12 years he would serve 15 years in prison instead. However, Vikernes, paranoid as ever, would insist that the freemasons were out to get him once again.

Even though he was incarcerated, Vikernes was still able to have a relationship with his French wife, with conjugal visits, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conjugal_visit) and as a result was able to father children while still behind bars. After his release, he set up home in Telemark, but claimed that the Norwegian government was making life difficult, making it impossible for him to earn a living.

Eventually he grew tired of the alleged state persecution and departed Norway to set up home in Limousin in his wife’s native France. He produced more albums, fathered more children, and basically his family were set up in a nice little rural home.

Now we come to the start of the year 2013 when I first found my way to Varg’s Thulean Perspective blog.

As I had been wanting to learn a little more about ‘paganism,’ for both educational purposes and seeking more solidarity with my fellow White Loyalists of this persuasion, and this individual seemed to be pro-White and somewhat of an authority on the subject (or at least an enthusiast), I thought that this website would be the ideal place to start.

Yes, Vikernes had been convicted of murder and vilified in the press. But, as he appeared to be this unapologetic White Loyalist - identifying as an ‘Odalist,’ just another nomenclature for pagan White Loyalist, so I thought - I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and accept his version of events.

Vikernes has quite an easy reading and personable style of writing, which usually keeps you reading until the end. That is, unless he goes on one of his waffling sprees, in which he makes a lot of unsubstantiated claims about history, evolution and reality based largely on his ‘intuition’ and questionable interpretation of ancient texts, or his fetish for J. R. R. Tolkien, fantasy and role-playing games (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Role-playing_game), at which point my eyes would usually glaze over and move onto something more productive.

I quickly concluded that this fellow was a little bit round the twist, but who seemed to have a good heart.

Being a Creator, I would, in a most cordial manner, address some of his drivel in the comment section of his posts with a bit of cold logic, but soon realised the futility of this endeavour. For his sycophantic legion of ‘metal head’ followers would slavishly agree with most of his nonsense, or at least be sympathetic to his dubious claims and ideas.

Fair enough, I thought. After all, Vikernes said some good stuff. He opposes Christianity, Judaism, Islam and other ‘alien’ creeds; opposes the third world invasion of Europe, exposed the ‘chosen’ mafia that blights our world, and, in his own way, wanted a better future for the people of Europe. Or, as he would put it, ‘Europe as a biological term.’ (You would be forgiven for thinking this is just another way of saying ‘White people,’ right?)

After following the Thulean Perspective posts for a few months, I had grown to like Varg, and made an effort to share and promote those posts of his that were reasonably sane. For example, when he posted about his attempt to build his own house and make his (adorable) family somewhat independent, and their apparently successful attempts at home-schooling, I would compliment and share. I would even come to speak of him in a favourable light to many of my White Loyalist associates at pro-White meetings across England.

Then on the 17th of July 2013, a Wednesday, I began to notice that I hadn’t received any posts from Varg in my inbox for a couple of days, which I thought a little strange. As anyone who is familiar with the blog will know, Varg is a rather prolific, if repetitive, writer, to the point of feverish (though as I write this apparently his blog has come to an end (http://thuleanperspective.com/2013/10/28/the-gathering-of-flowers/)). What was the matter? I thought.

Not long after, I stumbled across a news story on Facebook which said that Varg Vikernes and his wife, Marie, had been arrested on ‘suspicion he was preparing a major terrorist act.’ This sounded to me like absolute horse manure, as I had read almost every one of Varg’s blog posts over the past several months, and the only impression I got was of a man who wished to build a nice house for his family in the French countryside and live in harmony with nature.

Outraged, I hastily penned a blog post (http://jamesmacblog.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07/varg-vikernes-arrested-by-thought-police.html) condemning the Orwellian French authorities for this totally unwarranted arrest and defended Mr Vikernes and his ‘beautiful burgeoning’ family. ‘The thoughts of all good White Loyalists around the globe are with Varg and his family at this time,’ I proclaimed.

What can I say. When I see what I believe to be a good White Loyalist unjustly persecuted or harassed by a hostile anti-white establishment, I feel compelled to defend them.

A few days later, Varg and his wife would be released from police custody and reunited with their children. Vikernes would describe how his house was violently broken into by armed police, and both he and his pregnant wife were manhandled by these thugs of state oppression. Their children had been placed in the care of their grandparents, who were reluctant to hand the children back.

How could any pro-White individual with a heart not be angered by this injustice?

Shortly thereafter, Varg would ‘reluctantly’ ask for donations, in order that he might be able to sue the French authorities for their heinous act of terrorism, as well as defend himself against their attempts to have him deported from France for ‘hate speech’. Filled with compassion for a fellow White Loyalist, I would make a generous contribution. I was more than happy to do so.

On the 15th of October, I read a blog post by Vikernes titled ‘Divide et impera (http://thuleanperspective.com/2013/10/12ide-et-impera/) (written on the 13th)’ in which he spoke against adopting ‘extreme right-wing’ nationalism and jingoism when opposing the supposed ‘left-wing’ enemies of White people, or as he calls it (perhaps misleadingly) ‘Europe as a biological term.’

I approved of the piece, even though I could have taken issue with some of his questionable take on history and so forth (which I had long since learned to avoid). I would comment simply with the following, alluding as many times before to my adherence to the religion of Creativity:

‘A very good piece, Varg. White Loyalty [and solidarity] is the answer. Though I must respectfully disagree about what religion one should adopt. I say White Loyalists the world over should embrace the dynamic religion of Creativity.’

His response was to quickly dismiss me as ‘ignorant.’ Puzzled, I asked why so, as I had only expressed an opinion in a most friendly manner. But his response was to again declare me as ‘ignorant’ for holding such a view. Wishing to remain cordial and diplomatic, I would tell him, fair enough, you have your view, I have mine, and that I liked and shared his piece all the same.

However, as he had declared me so ‘ignorant’ for adhering to Creativity, I asked for his take on the Founder of Creativity, the great Ben Klassen, to see how well informed he really is. What followed wasn’t at all expected and completely below the belt. Let us just say that his remarks were not exactly conducive to friendly relations.

Immediately after I enquired about Vargs erudition, I would wish him the best of luck with his trial in Paris on the 18th, in which he faced deportation from France. ‘The thoughts of good White Loyalists the world over will be with you,’ I said. ‘May the bright flame of our enthusiasm never be extinguished.’

No sooner had I posted that, making it clear that I was a supporter and not a foe, he responded to me with the most unnecessary and bilious diatribe against Creativity and Ben Klassen, calling Creativity ‘based on ignorance,’ a ‘bull* “religion”’ and referred to Founder Ben Klassen as ‘a *ing freak’ who ‘doesn’t [sic] even look very “White”.’

Varg Vikernes (http://thuleanperspective.com/2013/10/12ide-et-impera/?cpage=1#comment-55780): ‘I read about it about a decade ago. As I see it “The Church of the Creator” is.... it’s “White Supremacy” based on ignorance and hatred for diversity. It’s completely void of anything deep, spiritual or divine, and falls into the same category as atheism and Satanism (Anton LaVey style).

The holidays of this bull* “religion” celebrates e. g. the “White” man’s genocides against other races. And you think that is a good alternative? Come on! Ben Klassen was a *ing freak! He doesn’t even look very “White”.’

After reading the above, I wasn’t happy to say the least. Why did he feel the need to write such utter tripe, and why now? Like I said earlier, I had been posting as a Creator, with Creativity inspired comments, making my adherence to Creativity as clear as day.  Such as the following:

‘This idea that one must be a pagan and swear allegiance to nonexistent deities seems a bit silly to me. I suppose I mustn't be truly 'European' by your definition, as I identify as an adherent to the religion of Creativity, the creed as set forth by Ben Klassen. What is good for the White Race is the Highest Virtue; what is bad for the White Race is the Ultimate Sin. What is wrong with this?’ - Tuesday 27th May 2013.

‘Don’t forget Ben Klassen, Founder of Creativity. But it wouldn’t be entirely accurate to say Klassen was from the US, as he was born to German Mennonites in the Ukraine, survived the genocide in that country, and was raised in Canada.’ - Sunday 14th Jul 2013.

To the first quote, Varg would reply with the following, without a hint of hostility: ‘Well, not to deities, but to what they stand for, what they represent. I don’t think anybody here believe in actual gods.’

After reading the totally unwarranted bile from Vikernes, I decided to leave it for a day or two, as he did have his Paris trial, the stress of which (I reasoned) could have prompted him to make such stupid remarks. This is the kind of person I am. Call it a strong sense of empathy. ‘Let’s see how his trial goes, and if he’s successful and permitted to stay in France, I will give him the opportunity to retract his filth.’

When I brought this whole saga to the attention of my fellow Creators, they would opine that his precarious situation might have lead Varg to use Creativity, the most purely White Loyalist creed on earth, as a scapegoat in order to placate the enemy and thus ensure his stay in France. This is certainly possible, but, again, I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

However, meanwhile, my fellow Creators, good people that they are, and understandably hurt and dismayed as they were, made a point of chastising Varg. In the most puerile and petty-minded fashion, he would respond by dismissing these people as Jewish trolls and further insulting uncompromising White Loyalists of every stripe.
Come Saturday (the 20th), when Varg’s trial had been postponed until next year, and having read his various responses to good White Loyalists (backed up by his antisocial, childish and sycophantic ‘metal head’ mob), I would respond to him with the following statement:

‘Varg, I won't bother attempting to refute your version of history or human evolution, as your take on these subjects is too nutty & ignorant to be worthy of my time or any other sane or sensible human being. Any good White Loyalist - such as myself - that comes to your blog & supports you does so because they ultimately think your heart is in the right place. That is, somebody who has the best interests of White people in mind. That is how I viewed your blog posts & that is why I supported you. That is why I took the time to share your (saner) articles & encouraged people to support you, both morally & financially, when your family was in [dire] need. However, your completely unwarranted & unnecessary attack on my religion & defamation of the founder of my religion, the great Ben Klassen, left me outraged. So angry & disappointed was I by your malicious & imbecilic remarks on Tuesday (& your puerile reluctance to retract your bilious remarks when other White Loyalists admonished you) that I could not bring myself to respond to you until now. I now deeply regret my support for you, both morally & financially, & I will be sure to notify other good White Loyalists & Creators (that have always spoken so highly of you, hence why I came to your blog in the first place) aware of your attitude. I would also like a reimbursement of the donation I sent you, as I have a policy of only giving financial support to those I believe to be genuine White Loyalists. Would you be 'noble' enough to do this? I & other genuine White Loyalists & Creators will leave you to count on the support of chronically sociopathic misanthropes & your Nepalese 'allies' in future. To think that myself & a fellow Creator here in England seriously contemplated making a trip to Paris in order to support you during your day in court. :-/ How foolish do we feel now… Goodbye, Varg.’

The ‘Nepalese allies’ comment was in reference to his remark where he said: ‘We can e. g. show our sympathy with the Nepalese people, who suffer from the Judeo-Christian genocide today like we did 2000-1000 years ago. We can unite with all other people on this planet, and fight the common enemy with them as allies. Without them and their support we stand no chance as it is.’ What piffle.

He replied to my comment firstly by deleting it, made a couple of infantile remarks about him speaking ‘the truth - and it hurts,’ (nonsense piled on top of nonsense), then closed the comment section to that particular blog post. Somebody touched a nerve, perhaps?. I then had a private back and forth with him via email, with him further exposing himself as a petty-minded pugilist, one who just seeks to argue for the sake of it in the most eristic fashion.

Now some pro-White, non-Creator readers may smirk to themselves on reading up to this point, thinking that this Varg character is only denigrating Creativity and Ben Klassen, and really has no beef with other White Loyalists. But you would be wrong.

For my heartfelt (though calculated) comments prompted Vikernes to write a blog post, ‘White Supremacy? (http://thuleanperspective.com/2013/10/19/white-supremacy/)’ lambasting those that don’t think exactly as he does, and making it abundantly clear that he opposes true White Loyalists. He even goes so far as to adopt the Jewish media caricature when vilifying the true White Loyalist, asserting that we wish to ‘kill all others,’ are ‘low-IQ bullies,’ and that what we stand for is so ‘disgusting, ignorant and so over-the-top stupid that no European with a heart and a three digit IQ will ever support you!’

At least now we know where we stand. :-/

But it does make me wonder what kind of weird freaks from America & Australia that enthusiastically follow the blog of this musician, knowing that he condemns the very existence of their countries, which good White people fought and bled for over many centuries.

These minions of his, many of them American apparently, make such idiotic statements condemning ‘mixed White people’ outside of Europe, such as ‘German-Irish’ Americans for example. They say things along the lines of, Americans are a mix of different Europeans, and therefore are a messed up people. Varg agrees wholeheartedly, apparently forgetting that his own children are just such a mix, only they are born in Europe so that magically makes them more worthy. :-/

Varg even has the audacity to ask if White people have ‘any strong roots outside of Europe?’ He immediately responds with a resounding ‘No!’ when all real, authentic history screams ‘Yes!’ to high heaven.

No White people outside of Europe in ancient times? No White people in India, Varg? (Aryans) No White people in Africa? (Egyptians) No White people in China? (Tocharians) No White people in Peru? (Cloud People) No White people in North America? (Solutrians) Et cetera, et cetera. Or is this all just a Jewish/Judeo-Christian hoax also in order to justify colonisation, as this Vikernes character would have us believe? As he put it to me, ‘Come on!’ What complete piffle this man talks.

It is funny also that Vikernes is so eager to condemn the philosophy of ‘Might is Right,’ the right of conquest, etc., frowning upon the American Winning of the West, the development of North America, the founding of Australia and many other great White achievements outside of Europe. Yet, if he still thinks it appropriate to murder his old pal Euronymous in order to preserve and advance himself, why does he object to White people practicing ‘Might is Right’ on this planet Earth, turning the evil tide of mud that has historically attempted to engulf us and mongrelise us into oblivion? When it boils down to it, he really has no argument.

The White Race must strive for its survival and advancement to the limit of its ability, or it will be destroyed in a hostile sea of mud. That is the reality of the situation.

‘Let us make it clear at the outset that this overcrowded world of five billion hungry and clawing people is rapidly heading for more chaos, turmoil, anarchy, revolution and terrorism. We are locked in a racial war, in which each of the participants is keenly aware of their race and ready to fight for its survival, with one exception. The only participant unaware is the White Race, and it is not so much as lifting a finger to defend itself. It is, in fact, giving aid and comfort to the enemy and massively collaborating in its own destruction.’ - Ben Klassen, A Revolution of Values Through Religion (Odinism (http://www.creativitymovement.org/creator_library/english/rvtr-13.html))

Though Ben Klassen correctly observed that Odinism and Norse mythology is an inferior form of ‘paganism’ than the myths and great literature of ancient Greece and Rome, in his article on Odinism he spoke of these people as good people and allies for the Noble Cause. But the more I experience and communicate with Odinists, the more I realise they are mere hobbyists and outright hostile to Creativity.

As I would say to this Varg Vikernes character in one of my private emails to him, and I will repeat it here, maybe one day you will find some sense, Varg, but I'm not banking on it.

In the meantime, all good White Loyalists be wary of such misleading and cowardly individuals. Only support those individuals of a sound mind who are truly dedicated White Loyalists to the Cause of White preservation and advancement, and who are actually making a difference. Basically just promote the one and only, true and revolutionary White Racial Religion Creativity.
Title: Re: Varg Vikernes Arrested by Thought Police: Uses Creativity as a Scapegoat
Post by: Hidden to Guests on 04 November 2013 at 17:46
One thing for certain is that our race must adopt one religion and only one, which is Creativity.  Sooner or later this fact would lead to a confrontational approach by those who want their alternative religion to be preferred. 

It is a biological rule of nature that any two species occupying the same niche must result in one wiping out the other.  This works with ethnicity and with religion since religions are a form of evolutionary branching. 

We don't have a problem with admiration for aspects of the cultures of our ancestors, eg Vikings - but this must never become a conflicting idea with the religion of Creativity. 

It seems some of those who are enthusiastic about the Norse religion, as passed down very dubiously through the writings of a Christian, feel they have a faith that should be chosen over and above our own.  They should join us in our ultimate pro White road to survival,  or they will go down the path to extinction.
Title: Re: Varg Vikernes Arrested by Thought Police: Uses Creativity as a Scapegoat
Post by: Hidden to Guests on 04 November 2013 at 18:09
Quote from Richard Dawkins, "The Blind Watchmaker":  "It is a widely accepted principle of ecology that two species with the same way of life will not co-exist for long in one place, because they will compete and one or the other will be driven extinct."  - Just to clarify something from my previous post!

Title: Re: Varg Vikernes Arrested by Thought Police: Uses Creativity as a Scapegoat
Post by: Hidden to Guests on 04 November 2013 at 18:14
As I have said over and over again, I have no issue with using ancient myths in a poetic sense, or as a metaphor or allegory (for example: 'Bring me the fairest creature northward born, Where Phoebus’ fire scarce thaws the icicles,’) but to actually expect us to take it all seriously is completely ridiculous.
Title: Re: Varg Vikernes Arrested by Thought Police: Uses Creativity as a Scapegoat
Post by: Hidden to Guests on 04 November 2013 at 19:05
Klassen did the heavy lifting in A Revolution of Values Through Religion. It's up to those of other religions to learn and critically analyze their own beliefs. You can lead a man to Creativity, but you can't make him think.
Title: Re: Varg Vikernes Arrested by Thought Police: Uses Creativity as a Scapegoat
Post by: Hidden to Guests on 08 November 2013 at 12:13
I had no end of trouble trying to post this. NSA must hate me :D.

http://creativityresourcearea2.wordpress.com/a-creator-critique-of-asatru (http://creativityresourcearea2.wordpress.com/a-creator-critique-of-asatru/)

I passed the essay on to other Creators to check over, remove anything illegal and defamatory etc but the spirit is the same.

Editor's Note: Posted at https://creativityalliance.com/forum/index.php/topic,10116.0.html
Title: Re: Varg Vikernes Arrested by Thought Police: Uses Creativity as a Scapegoat
Post by: Hidden to Guests on 08 November 2013 at 12:15

A Retaliatory Critique of Odinism in the White Racial Movement.

It is with slight regret that I am thus forced in 40 Ac (2013) to put pen to paper to make a retaliatory critique of the Odinist religious movement , not withstanding that it has merit as an educational/ cultural group). (Here I am using Odinist to refer to any present day Asatru/ Germano-pagan group with political leanings.) It is with heavy heart and regret, because the Norse gods were the fictional gods of my forefathers and the ancient gods of my race.

Personally I am intensely proud of my Viking roots and am proud to have an extensive knowledge of my ancestors. Indeed I would pit my knowledge with any later day Odinist. At the last count in my personal library I had over 81 books devoted to Scandinavian Art, Prehistoric Denmark, Sweden, Stone Age, Bronze Age, and Iron Age Scandinavia. The Bog people, the mound people, myths and legends of the Teutonic Race and the Norse Sagas by Snorri Sturluson. Also Viking age archaeology. Runes, runestones, the Baltic amber trade, stone age Scandinavia, The Nordic world, Viking mythology etc etc. So I can assure you I am not talking from a position of ignorance

At Leeds University my University Thesis was the “Origins and Classification of Viking Art in Archaeology.” I have spent a good part of my life on archaeological reconstruction dealing with relics of the Viking age and Nordic culture. In my view I have contributed much to building modern day Odinism behind the scenes, what with encouraging re-enactment and a revival of Viking art and crafts (anyone that knows me personally knows this is true). I did not do this to reawaken spookism. At this moment I am stone carving a four foot diameter boulder with a Ringerike design. I was born in a place called Ormskirk, a Viking settlement in Northern England.

I have no problem with Odinism as a cultural expression, an excuse to dress up, party and socialise with others honouring and remembering their ancestors. I have no problem with artisans crafting their skills, working in wood, stone, metal and bone making Viking cultural items. The Creativity Religion defends benign paganism if anything.

Odinism is good when it generates pride in race, community and White values. Likewise I have no problem with battle re enactors dressing up just as the civil war buffs, waffen SS, Romans, Spartans, Greeks etc do. It is all good, clean White fun and we should celebrate our White History with pride.

When I say we should celebrate White History with pride I mean All White history, because our roots are ancient and  the Vikings were but 1% of it. Indeed the history of the White Race is a half of the Creativity Religion.

What I don’t like is if the civil war buffs actually want to refight the civil war and kill other White people. Just as I don’t like it when SS battle re-enactors denigrate Russians as if they wish a replay of the disaster of WW2. History has changed and our focus has changed.

I also draw the line when people begin to justify their dress up, play acting and pet pig as an excuse to divide the White Race, indulge in make believe, insanity, witchcraft etc. This includes praying to none-existent fictional deities, initiating and applauding conflict within the White Race and allowing the opportunity for and even glorification of fratricide.

If some Odinists without warrant or provocation attack the Creativity Religion, or if its adherents actually start to believe in spooks, goblins, werewolves, giants, loki and baldur then they are drifting into jew-promoted insanity. For this reason Odinism has to be criticised back. If it is becoming a divisive and negative a force in attempts by the White Race to sort out its multitude of problems then it becomes as poisonous as Christianity. Just another obstacle and road block in stopping our task of saving the White Race.

The trigger for this article has been some recent negativity from some Odinists against our Creativity Religion. There has been an ad hominem attack against our religious founder Ben Klassen that cannot go unanswered. It has been  said Ben Klassen “looked” none white and that the Creativity religion was too “jewish”. What the hell? well two can play at that game- but I don’t think I will because it is demeaning.  Name calling is infantile and does not help the racial struggle.

I could easily make a case that Odinism is really a Jewish concoction. There is enough circumstantial evidence for it. Wasn’t it convenient for Judea during the Roman occupation that the Romans now had to contend with aggressive Germanics on the Rhine frontier? Convenient that the Roman White civilisation was now under permanent attack in its rear. But I don’t really believe it.

Then again  maybe Odinism was just spawned by the muslims to attack Christendom.  Maybe the Christians wrote an Islamic Scandinavia out of history. Viking interlace artwork seems related to and in imitation of abstract Islamic art. The coins of King Offa carried the “Shehada.” Then again the paradisical Viking afterlife is muslim, as is the death in battle. Valhalla is the hall of Allah if you think about it. Ragnorak backwards is the Koran gar. But I don’t believe that either.

You see it’s easy to name call if you hate someone but We Creators don’t hate anyone except our real racial enemies. As Creators we primarily love our White Race and we want to save it in the only way that it can be saved. With rational thought and action. With a win –win plan.

Defeat and death in battle Viking style is ultimately no substitute for victory. Extinction is not an option this time round. This time round we have to be wiser than the Confederacy, more cunning than the Boers, more intelligent than Hitler and more cohesive than the Jews. It is the only way to win this fight. We Creators have a complete plan, all that is needed is for people to listen. We want the Odinists on board with us, we don’t want them reading runes and praying to rocks like mental patients. We want them on board with us the same as the Greeks in the Golden Dawn and the Russian Nationalists.

The fact is Ben Klassen was a Mennonite of entirely German and Dutch roots. You can even buy his autobiography if you actually care to read the truth. It is called “Against the Evil Tide”.

The  Religion he codified in his lifetime is called Creativity. It is indeed a Racial Religion, as is Judaism. But to say that that is a “jewish” religion because it borrows the core of their effectiveness- is the silly logic of the loser and ignoramus. It is like the cavemen using clubs on one side of the mountain being trounced by the cavemen on the other side of the mountain using bows and arrows, yet refusing to use the enemies arrows  and bows because it isn’t clubbish.

Another analogy is that it is like sheep refusing to be aggressive like the sheep dog because it is farmerish.

In fact why not take it further with this silly logic. Jews control business so we shouldn’t do that , thats  too Jewish. The Jews control finance, banking and gold so we should eschew that because thats  Jewish too. Why, the Jews control newspapers, publishing, film and media so we better not get involved with that or we’ll be like the Jews. We better not get involved in politics, governance and running society either because that’s Jewish as well. In fact lets make sure we just stay illiterate, dumb, ignorant, gullible, poor, powerless slaves because that guarantees we aren’t anything like the Jews. Yep lets go back to the stoneage like the Vikings.

If Jews take care of their health by eating kosher, supporting Jewish businesses by buying and supporting other Jewish groups, well we don’t want to be like the Jews supporting their own kind, lets buy from Asians and Pakistanis. Lets eat garbage and be fat pigs  and have Viking beer bellies even if it turns off our women. It reminds me of the Bible saying “lets not be like the publicans”—Ben Klassen observed that Christians may as well conclude- If they take shelter when it rains.. why, we better stay in the rain and get soaked. If the publicans put their trousers on one leg at a time why we’ll jump into ours both feet at the same time!

If the Jews have high tech weaponry, nuclear bombs, stealth fighters, laser guided bombs and drones well we don’t want to be like the Jews…lets just have shields and axes and clubs.

It’s a load of silly infantile logic really isn’t it. Its a reversal back to the Stone Age illiterate and imbecile. If some White people want to live like that fair enough, tapeworms, lice and all but we Creators think differently. We Creators now have the most dynamic, the most advanced ideological and religious system in 6000 years. We will take advantage of every technology and strive for White Racial Survival by any and every means necessary.

We have a health system called Salubrious living which if anything is more akin to the ancient White Greek ideals of fitness, health, eugenics, natural hygiene and physical perfection and discipline than anything jewish..

Creativity indeed does have voluntary dietry requirements and a pressure for Creators to be fit and healthy. In fact a Creator should be combat ready at all times just like the 70 year old SS men that used to run two miles a day. Ideally Creators should have the fitness level of a paratrooper. What’s wrong with that? Is that Jewish? You don’t stay lean and fit by eating barbeques, kebabs, smoking and pigging out on junk food and beer. You stay combat ready by good nutrition, self discipline and daily exercise.

Similarly we see no value in anything that the Viking religion espoused apart from perhaps dying an honourable death in battle. This was never exclusively Nordic but was also the Credo also of the Romans when they were still White. But then how many Odinists do actually die in battle? None as far as I know, so there they all go with their straw deaths to Nifleheim to be endlessly digested  and eaten by dragons.

It’s not as if the Vikings really ever defended the White Race either. They were repeatedly being fratricidal, killing each other over spilt drinks. Or like Harald Hardrada laying waste to whole parts of Denmark, Scotland, France, England, Russia etc killing blonde people by the thousands. In fact attacks by Vikings were a major stab in the back for what remained of White civilisation in Europe or Byzantium. The Vikings severely hampered those White people who had been engaged in fighting off Muslim conquests in Asia Minor, Spain and the Mediterranean etc for centuries.

The Vikings also engaged in habitual slavery- kidnapping Irish women, Scottish, English and Russian and Polish women and selling them to Muslims as sex slaves. They indulged in Ivar the Boneless’ rape war, which whilst it may have racially upgraded genetically parts of Britain, France and Russia is not particularly respectable, admirable or anything that should be admired by modern White people.

The Vikings were great opportunistic and violent traders and if they were here today would be certainly engaged in things like drug dealing, prostitution, arms and people trafficking. Things we law- abiding Creators find repugnant and criminal.

However we Creators give credit where credit is due. Yes, the Vikings were great fighters and physical specimens and represented perhaps the best racial part of the White Race in the dark ages but their philosophy and mind was that of children. They were easily fooled, tricked and spooked and were no match for Jewish phony bishops that converted and tricked them into Christianity. There was nothing in the Viking religion that explained the nature of the Jew to them. In fact Odin the highest Norse god had peculiar Jewish characteristics of being continuously deceptive, treacherous and wearing a Jewish style hat.

When Harald Bluetooth was convinced of the power of Christianity by a bishop undergoing trial by ordeal in a red hot iron glove and being easily fooled it showed that the Viking religion was impotent, naive and powerless. In contrast the Creativity Religion goes into great depth about the history of the Jews and their devious role throughout history and their continuous war against the White Race. Reading the 13 books of the Creativity Religion is the equivalent of a Masters degree in Religion, history, philosophy and genetics.

Some Odinists are given far more credibility than they deserve. At best they are braggarts, posers and minstrels whose only claim is often stabbing another White person to death. Big deal. The prisons are full of such fools who could have died a hero’s death killing our real racial enemies. If all they say they are doing is promoting paganism.. whatever that is- since it isn’t codified and never was anything to do with race or saving the White Race why is it even listened to? Asatru left no archaeological written records. What survived was written down by Snorri Sturluson 200 years after the Viking age ended. Snorri was a Christian. Modern Asatru is therefore no more than the equivalent of an English  version of Roman history  written down in 605. We actually have that. It is called “The Anglo Saxon chronicle” , it is garbled and vague in comparison to what has been learned since by modern archaeology. Put another way it is like the communist description of National Socialism; wierd, exaggerated, phony and loaded with prejudice and propaganda.

Back to paganism. We Creators say go ahead and say prayers to boulders, have sex in the woods and father good white babies but don’t claim to be a White leaders or have any solutions to the problems the White Race faces. In fact why don’t you get yourself a good pair of necropants and go the whole hog. You are no threat to the Jewish conspiracy with clubs and shields.

If however the Odinists want to save the White Race they are certainly going about it the wrong way. Creativity is the only real answer and the only fully codified Credo which addresses the real problems our people face. It was not “invented” by Ben Klassen out of thin air . It was founded and  codified by him. It is the observed laws of nature pertaining to human history and relations. It is built on a solid foundation of racial philosophy built up over a century by thinkers such as Madison Grant, Lothrop Stoddart, Adolf Hitler, Revillo P Oliver, Francis Parker Yockey, Alfred Rosenberg, Nietsche, Houston- Stewart Chamberlain, Elmer Pendell, Ernest Sevier-Cox, William Simpson and William Pierce.

The Creativity Religion states clearly that in order to defeat the Jewish behemoth and hydra we have to unify the White Race. If we don’t.. suppose Scandinavia became a White, modern day (Viking) homeland..how long would it last before it was attacked just like the third Reich, its people pounded into rubble. The Russians or Jews could rightfully nuke it as a threat to their biological existence. Alternatively it could come to blows with its neighbours..The pro-viking nordicists tend to look down on anyone they deem none “Aryan” so there they are back at square one having fratricidal wars with Finns, Poles, Russians, Celts, French, etc etc.. how stupid can you get? Just right when the White Race as a whole faces extinction! Don’t they want to snap out of this “Groundhog day” of perpetual defeat?

The point of learning history is so that you don’t make the same mistakes again. The last thing the White Race needs now is a return to fratricidal nationalism or White on White ethnic war. Especially as we face extinction. If the White Race returns to division and fratricide not only will it have lost its perhaps only chance to break the Jewish hydra. The Earth itself most likely not survive the overload of muds killing it..an urgent problem that needs an immediate solution.

The only way that the Jewish monster can be tackled is if the White Race unifies..Hungarians, Greeks, Russians, British, French, Germans, Americans, Australians etc..Because the only way the White Race is beaten is by its own kind bearing arms against it. If we unify the White Race there will be no White people to crush us- ever! We can then stop subsidising the Third World. Let their population crash back to subsistence levels, then get on with sorting the worlds problems out. Odinists generally speak for themselves but some of them should maybe learn to be bit more Germanic, thinking before they speak and not making judgements without evidence.

Ultimately what are the Odinists afraid of?  Victory? If the White race unified under the one and only Creativity Religion we could sort out the worlds problems and save the White Race in six months. What do the Odinists want to do?..get drunk in Valhalla, kill White people forever? Over and over gain? How silly, how insane, how jewish.

The one objection made by some Odinists of some validity than is worth mentioning is that the Nordicists/ Odinists say they don’t want to race-mix  –with with Italians, Slavs, Greeks, Spanish etc. Well we must assure them that Creativity is not about integrating the various White ethnicities. Creativity is about organising the White Race. Getting them to work together globally under a common flag and ideology. They all have their own homelands and no one wants to interfere with that. If Italians, Spaniards , Greeks, Russians are fighting for White survival we welcome them. Better Italians, Spaniards , Greeks, Russians fighting for the White race than Nordics fighting against it.

The British Empire enlisted various ethnicities in their own territories and regiments just as the Romans did. That is how to organise the White Race as a whole. The one thing the Romans lacked however was eugenics. That is why they declined.

The Creativity Religion counters this because essential eugenics is an integral part of the Creativity Religion so there is nothing for Nordicists to be afraid of. If anything Creativity is weighted to Germanics as the purest of the White Race and they should join with us and help upgrade the White Race as a whole.

Reverend Keith  Brumaire. 40AC
Title: Re: Varg Vikernes Arrested by Thought Police: Uses Creativity as a Scapegoat
Post by: Hidden to Guests on 08 November 2013 at 12:46
This thread is well worth a read. Very well thought out and interesting. Very well done brothers.
Title: Re: Varg Vikernes Arrested by Thought Police: Uses Creativity as a Scapegoat
Post by: Hidden to Guests on 08 November 2013 at 22:30
The ‘Nepalese allies’ comment was in reference to his remark where he said: ‘We can e. g. show our sympathy with the Nepalese people, who suffer from the Judeo-Christian genocide today like we did 2000-1000 years ago. We can unite with all other people on this planet, and fight the common enemy with them as allies. Without them and their support we stand no chance as it is.’ What piffle.

Yeah, I was the one who commented making him reply with that. It is utter hogwash to say the least. He talks about the philosophy of Creativity as some sort of mindlessly hateful religion that no reasonably intelligent European with a heart will support, as you pointed out. On the other hand the only way we will ever remove the muds from Europe and all our other countries is by force. They aren't going to go back to their third world countries voluntarily. The Nepalese people will never see things from our point of view like any of the other mud races, their people from India, whom are basically the same race, invade our lands en masse and yet we are supposed to form some alliance with some small isolated community of them to remove their own people from our territory. It is total bull* like you say James. The only allies we have are other white loyalists, something which Varg seems to have neglected from his reasoning as he chooses to vilify his own people. I won't ever buy another one of his albums or read his articles unless he apologizes for this utter retardation.
Title: Re: Varg Vikernes Arrested by Thought Police: Uses Creativity as a Scapegoat
Post by: Hidden to Guests on 09 November 2013 at 00:08
I won't ever buy another one of his albums or read his articles unless he apologizes for this utter retardation.

I had one of his albums and smashed it to pieces.

This thread is well worth a read. Very well thought out and interesting. Very well done brothers.

Yes good work brothers and sister. These Pagan lunatics are too full of themselves and need to be taken down a peg or two. There's nothing special about their Euro spooks in the sky that separates the spooks or the believers from the Christinsane. They spend so much time trying to validate themselves as akin to Christinsanity that as far as I'm concerned, they are just another variation on Christinsanity; and therefore just as much a threat to the White Race as any Christinsane.

Title: Re: Varg Vikernes Arrested by Thought Police: Uses Creativity as a Scapegoat
Post by: Hidden to Guests on 09 November 2013 at 04:03
Has anyone actually written to him yet and gotten a reply since he made these remarks?
Title: Re: Varg Vikernes Arrested by Thought Police: Uses Creativity as a Scapegoat
Post by: Hidden to Guests on 10 November 2013 at 09:40

Has anyone actually written to him yet and gotten a reply since he made these remarks?

There was quite some lengthy discourse between Varg and a few of us Creators and supporters of Creativity. It started when Varg made these inflammatory remarks on his blog and a few of us debated him. He blocked comments to that particular blog post and deleted some comments after telling everyone that if we believe in evolution we must also believe that we are eventually going to become Aborigines living here in Australia.  ::)

He then went and posted a blog about 'white supremacists' targeting White Racialists like us who follow Creativity. I pretty much left it at that realising that he is in fact quite a misguided individual spending most of his life behind bars and not out in the real world. I had always loved Burzum and respected Varg and was pretty disappointed to have the only time I actually made contact with him in a debate regarding White Racialism of all things.

Title: Re: Varg Vikernes Arrested by Thought Police: Uses Creativity as a Scapegoat
Post by: Hidden to Guests on 06 July 2017 at 06:44
I hope everyone has smashed their Burzum records?