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Title: the law outside of america
Post by: PaulW on Tue 18 Jan 2011
i have been looking at the teachings of our founder and agree with his teachings. but outside of America.if we in Europe use words like nigger etc it can mean time in prison. we don't have free speech we must understand this.
so here goes the passable cont reversal bit.
should we not re write the teachings etc.. without these words.
in this age and place we need to get through to people who wish to save there family and race.
but after so many years of being brain washed it is hard to use terms like this.
plus it only helps our enemy's keep us out of the main stream where we need to be.
we can keep our beliefs and live the right way and fight for our people. without the terms most people weather we like it or not
cant or don't like to say.
i am interested in the reason for keeping these terms in place. so please feel free to let me know what you think.
good or bad.


Title: Re: the law outside of america
Post by: Axelsson on Wed 19 Jan 2011
I must disagree Brother,the words must remain as written.In Canada "they" are trying to get Huckleberry Finn rewritten by exchanging the word NIGGER with slave, this is obscene! NER and WMB are far more important books and changing the text would be sacrilegious! If a prospective member is offended by the word NIGGER then they are not who we are looking for.If using the term NIGGER can get you into trouble or is too off putting for the person you might be speaking with,try replacing NIGGER with MUD.
Title: Re: the law outside of america
Post by: Jimbo on Thu 20 Jan 2011
my under-standing of the situation is that laws against "hate speech"/"thought crime" exist in only a small n° of European countries....Jewrmany, of course....France, i think!...maybe Spain....that's abt it, AFAIK!...that ain't a sufficient reason to alter the Church's Holy Books!

cheers!

(Jimbo)
Title: Re: the law outside of america
Post by: PaulW on Thu 20 Jan 2011
thank you all for your reply s just to make things clear i have no problem with the words or using them.
but  i still say just because some people  may not like to use these words. does not mean they are not in favour off,or wish to help your race. plus i was not saying re write the holy books simply that by having the words like nigger etc stops lots of people helping in our fight because weather i or we like it or not. ZOG uses this type of thing to put our people in jail.
every movement religion or group has to evolve to grow. just like our race has over time.
if i say other races are our enemy. instead of niggers are our enemy. does this make me any less of a proud white man.
or fighter for our race ?
i have been around long enough to know that some people see this type of thing as selling out.
and no matter how i put it, or say this type of thing, some will see me this way. but all i can say is all i want is to fight for our people and as i say above. sometimes this means making changes in the way we go about the fight, otherwise we may lose the war.
Title: Re: the law outside of america
Post by: PaulW on Thu 20 Jan 2011
 in looking up the word in Webster's dictionary I
found the term "nigger" very descriptive: "a vulgar, offensive term
of hostility and contempt for the black man."  I can't think of
anything that defines better and more accurately what our position
toward the nigger should be than what the dictionary said.  If we
are going to be for racial integrity and racial purity and for
supremacy of the White Man, we should and we must take a
hostile position toward the nigger.  We must give him nothing but
contempt.
quote from our founder / which i believe in
but i still state we need to look at these things as i said in my first post on this subject.
i f only to make us think and remember that the most important thing is to advance our race and save it for our children and this to me means if at times we need to adjust then that is what we need to do to to survive. beliefs and integrity are only good if we have a race left to carry them on.
i and my family moved thousands of miles to get away from the scum and we live healthy on our own land living our beliefs as much as we can to the founders word. over the years i have never stopped working and fighting for our race and people. so any one out there who thinks i am wrong to even say these things look at yourself and ask would i be willing to do this with my family. we need to ask questions of ourselves and our methods all the time if we are to survive
that's what our race has done throughout history and founder did this all his life. and i will  saying again the whole world is not America. and like it or not what is said there can not be said openly here.
and finally i just wish to say i am not here to cause trouble in the church or just talk shit for the sake of it. i only and simply want to help to save our people. and only by asking hard questions at times can we realise if we need to change or are right to carry on the way we are.
Title: Re: the law outside of america
Post by: SethCochran on Thu 20 Jan 2011
As the Pontifex said in the latest issue of Racial Loyalty:  "You will bend to Creativity, but Creativity will not bend to you."

The Holy Books must stay as they were handed down to us, in the same way that our bloodline must be preserved in the way it was handed down to us.  To change a thing so important, regardless of a single person's intentions could do nothing but degrade it and harm it's ability to reach  the world; and the world must know where we stand.  We encourage use of the word Nigger because it shows externally the contempt we harbor internally.

If that means we have to smuggle books into Germany under fear of persecution if discovered, we shall establish an underground church in Germany and spread our Word to all who will receive it- unaltered, and unchanged.

What is good for the White race is the highest virtue; what is bad for the White race is the ultimate sin.

The world receiving the words of Our Founder as he wrote them, unchanged by opinion, convenience, or even necessity is good for the White race.
Title: Re: the law outside of america
Post by: Rev.WillWilliams on Thu 20 Jan 2011
Quote from: conna97 on Tue 18 Jan 2011
i have been looking at the teachings of our founder and agree with his teachings. but outside of America.if we in Europe use words like nigger etc it can mean time in prison. we don't have free speech we must understand this.
so here goes the passable cont reversal bit.
should we not re write the teachings etc.. without these words.
in this age and place we need to get through to people who wish to save there family and race.
but after so many years of being brain washed it is hard to use terms like this.
plus it only helps our enemy's keep us out of the main stream where we need to be.
we can keep our beliefs and live the right way and fight for our people. without the terms most people weather we like it or not cant or don't like to say.
i am interested in the reason for keeping these terms in place. so please feel free to let me know what you think. good or bad.

Creators are not compelled to use the word nigger. Use what you are comfortable with around those you are addressing. I use the word nigger freely, but not exclusively. I use Negro sometimes, or Black. When speaking to a Black nationalist, why would I use such a term that's going to shut down the conversation?
We shouldn't use words just for shock value when we want to get our get our points across.

Construct your own term, like African-Bulgarian, to show how ridiculously absurd is the Politically Correct term African-American that American sheep are instructed to use by the word police.

I grew up hearing my mother say "nigruh." I like using that sometimes, especially around niggers.

Creativity Alliance won't be tampering with the Holy books, changing words to satisfy tender sensibilities.
Title: Re: the law outside of america
Post by: Rev.Cambeul on Fri 21 Jan 2011
I agree with Reverend Williams, use whatever terminology best suits the situation, but we wont be changing our books for any reason at all.

On my own website under the Mission and Vision Statements is a bit of scrolling text that further describes how Creators think and live, "A Creator is not interested in the future or welfare of other races, and shuns race mixing or any social intercourse whatsoever with the non-White races," which is a paraphrase from No. 3 in What a Creator is Not: "A CREATOR is not interested in the future or welfare of the mud races, and shuns race mixing or any social intercourse whatsoever with the inferior mud races." While I saw the necessity of the change given that we want to attract rather than repel people, I refused to make any change further in on my site where it is again used in a less in your face way, but this time as a direct quote: https://sacreator.com/creativity/#not (https://sacreator.com/creativity/#not)

Do what you need to do, but don't change our books.

@Cailen.
Title: Re: the law outside of america
Post by: PaulW on Fri 21 Jan 2011
thanks again for your thoughts and suggestions. . i fully agree we should not change our holy books. and live the best we can to the teachings as well as the spirit of our founder.
i know i am repeating myself. but without bringing these types of questions into the open, i fully believe we can not grow.
if nothing else i have seen that even those people who may not have liked me asking or saying these things were polite and answered my questions. this shows me that the church is healthy and believes in the founders statement that we need to be as one.. i am proud to be in the church and give my word i will fight till my last breath for my family race and church.
Title: Re: the law outside of america
Post by: Albert on Mon 09 Jul 2012
It is not possible to religiously alter any text in a religion. Any tinkering ultimately opens the door to any other dilution. White could become caucasian..and then expanded to include pakistanis, indians and arabs etc so changing any single word is opening a pandoras box and sets a precedence for schism, corruption, division etc.
In the countries where there are curbs on free speech Creators are just going to have to work underground just as the early christians did. At least until they have the numbers to make themselves heard. (remember that christianity was supressed ruthlessly for 300 years before it came out on top- not least because it promoted itself via breeding - 5% can become 95% of the population in 200 years if they are more fertile)


Besides being in jail serves no purpose. I have found that circulating within the legal nationalist movements in europe is a safe habitat for Creators to recruit and spread the message. Nationalist movements have to carefully consider their rhetoric and legal position but they do serve as a shallow end of the pool for white Racial loyalty. It is also quite the case that the more intelligent and longer serving Nationalists are in fact much more hard core, machiavellian and prone to national socialist type ideology including the Creativity Religion so long as the nationalist brand is not of the zionist, geert wilders type.