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Title: I'm anti-Semite Christian ... Is anti-Semitic Christianity Allowed Here?
Post by: apollonian on Thu 05 Aug 2010
I'm Christian--BUT Absolutely Anti-Semitic
(Apollonian, 5 Aug 10)

Hello comrades: I'm "Christian"--BUT absolutely anti-semitic.  In fact, I hold Christianity is absolutely anti-semitic (anti-Talmud, as Gosp.s MARK 7:1-13 and MATT 15:3-9) and is totally meaningless without this anti-semitism.  Christianity IS anti-semitism, and the most successful form of anti-semitism is Christianity, I say, which history verifies.

And yes, I absolutely agree present, established Christianity is an absolute outrage to all humanity and MUST be reformed to comport properly w. its glorious and original anti-semitic foundation.  What happened is that when Christianity succeeded and achieved effective, virtual Jew-Expulsion, it (Christianity) then rather degenerated, esp. in that putrid MYSTICISM--so that soon enough, Jews were able, slowly but surely, to worm and infiltrate their way back to within Christianity, as we see presently.

Thus Christianity is, properly understood, the way of TRUTH (as Gosp JOHN 14:6, 8:32, and 18:37-8) vs. Jew lies (Gosp. JOHN 8:44) and conspiracy.  Thus u see, Christianity is properly understood as HEGELIAN ANTI-THESIS to Judaism (Truth vs. Jew lies).

I read up on Ben Klassen and read some of the books yrs ago--I much sympathize w. Creativity.  But I came to adopt Christianity as it's much more practical way, I think, to combat Judaism-Talmudism (Judaism IS Talmudism--see RevisionistHistory.org for expo/ref., also see Come-and-hear.com).  For by means of Christianity, properly understood (anti-semitism), it's easier thereby to relate w. gentile volk and encourage that anti-semitism necessary for true salvation.

So I'd like to get ur reactions to this Christianity of mine--remember, I hold it's (Christianity) meaningless without anti-semitism, and if u're NOT anti-semitic, then u can't be Christian.  If u're Christian, then u MUST BE anti-semitic.  Thus u see the great beauty of my Christian system is I can work "within the system," so to speak.

There's one serious problem for creativity as I see it--for the Jews benefit if gentiles (white and non-white) remain dis-united and fighting against one another, the Jews remaining aloof, playing the various gentiles against one another.

By means of Christianity, thus gentiles can unite--but on strict racialistic basis, consistent w. good old creativity.  For one should note the great virtue of Christianity is HONESTY in honor of highest value, truth, and all gentiles then and thereby can retain their racialist exclusivity and identity, united against infernal Jews, the enemy of all humanity, reason, and reality.  Don't forget the 5th of original Ten Commandments is "honor thy race" (parentage).

Thanks much for all ur attn and advice.  Apollonian

(I notice this forum's posting format does not allow too great length going down the page, as it will not cooperate to letting me view what I'm typing at this depth of the page--I hope it prints out okay.)
Title: Re: I'm anti-Semite Christian ... Is anti-Semitic Christianity Allowed Here?
Post by: Rev.Cambeul on Thu 05 Aug 2010
Christianity is a degenerate, Jewish slave religion meant to give hope to the lowest of the low and cage the minds and souls of the powerful and successful. Reworking Christinsanity two thousand years after its advent is only going to entice the gullible who believe in magic and invisible friends, thereby destroying any hope that they, as White men and women, can once and for all escape the manipulating priests with their eternal Jewish dogma.

Christinsanity anti-Semitic? How can someone who worships a Jewish God, a Jewish son of a Jewish god and his Jewish mother be an anti-Semite? Any anti-Semitism is to do with race; and that means biological racism - not religious rivalry or you'd be trying to convert orthodox Yids into adopting the worship of one of their own.

You ask if Christinsanity is allowed here - No it is not. However, as long as you do not bother us with your spooks, we'll let you hang around and contribute to this forum in the same way we would any other biological racist.

23 Words.

Pontifex Cambeul.

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Title: Re: I'm anti-Semite Christian ... Is anti-Semitic Christianity Allowed Here?
Post by: apollonian on Thu 05 Aug 2010
Christianity Ought To Be Assessed On Its Own Terms, According To Its Own Founding Text, New Testament
(Apollonian, 5 Aug 10)

Okay, thanks for ur candid reply.  As white man, I respect property rights, and this is obviously ur forum, not mine, so if I'm not going to be tolerated, then that's fine, as it's ur right.  I commend u for ur honesty and willingness to confront my arguments.

Don't doubt I basically accept ur premises--ANTI-SEMITISM.  As I say and contend, such anti-semitism is the proper and original purpose of Christianity, and I give my references fm basic Christian text which is New Testament (NT)--Old Test. (OT) is merely advisory and supplemental for true Christianity.

Note then purpose and highest ideal of Christianity--according to its founding text, NT, again--is TRUTH (Gosp. JOHN 14:6), this against Jew lies (JOHN 8:44).  I find it's extremely effective, so far as I've applied to this anti-semitic Christianity, to invoke these Christian ideals as reflected in its own text to the Christian people I come across--they take it quite seriously.

CONCLUSION: For isn't the pt. to achieve JEW-EXPULSION?--that's highest ideal to which I'm dedicated, u may be sure--and I find, as I say, it's most effective to work "within" Christian system.  Note also, it's important when u make assertions about Christianity to cite the text sources.  I don't go by what popes say--I go by the Christian text itself--this is the way to appeal to Christians who are a great percentage of the population, don't forget.  thanks again for all ur advice.  A.

Title: Re: I'm anti-Semite Christian ... Is anti-Semitic Christianity Allowed Here?
Post by: StephenMasten (Prison) on Fri 06 Aug 2010
Welcome to the forum Apollonian.

You suggest that Creativity is a problem because we won't unite with the muds against the Jews? You then go on to say that your brand of Christinsanity would involve Whites allying with muds against the Jews? If I am correct in this analysis of your post, then I disagree that your brand of Christinsanity is truly racialistic. Creators consider all the muds races, the Jew especially, as our Natural enemies and we do not believe that the enemy of our enemy is our friend. Creators aim to unite all the good White people of the world against our racial enemies, as the White race united is one hundred times more powerful than all the mud races combined.

You suggest that Christinsanity is a unifier? In all the history of Christinsanity, from the year "1," it has been nothing but a means of confusing the White race in to destroying itself. It caused the Romans to fight amongst themselves and allow the mongrelisation of their race that led to their demise. It launched a bloody fraternal war between the White Romans (Christians) and the White Germans (Pagans) that murdered millions of good White people, infighting that destroyed much of our great civilisation. Christinsanity led to the "Reformation" period, that killed two thirds of Europe's population, another slaughter of White people in the name of a Jewish spook. This violence continued and still continues, with Protestant Irish killing Catholic Irish and vice versa, not in the name of White Racial Loyalty but under the banner of a Jewish desert religion.

There are hundreds of different brands of Christinsanity - the Roman Catholic, the Anglican, the Eastern Orthodox, Mormon, Seventh Day Adventist - all criticising one another and arguing over who loves their Jewish god more. Your brand of Christianity, albeit anti-Jewish, will most likely do the same; launch White people against other White people in the name of a pointless and superstitious religion that offers no benefit to the White race. Christinsanity is not a unifier, it is a religion that has served to corrupt, confuse and abuse White people from it's very inception.

As for judging Christinsanity based on it's founding texts (New Testament), every Christinsane says the same and every brand of Christinsanity has a different interpretation of the same Jewish book. I have never been able to find a simple, logical explanation of Christinsane doctrine, when I find something that remotely seems reasonable, I find somebody else saying the total opposite. Creators have examined the various Christinsane factions and none of them offer anything close to a real racial religion equipped with the tools necessary to defeat the Jewish beast. All Christinsanity is, is a superstitious mind-muddle, preaching suicidal values that you would only ever encourage your worst enemy to adopt.

We Creators understand that we have a lot of work to do, it's going to take hard work and dedication if we are to unify the White race against it's racial enemies. However, unlike the Christinsane, we have the right tools for the job. We're equipped with a racial religion, completely devoid of Jewish superstition and suicidal values. We aim to not create a new brand of an already failed product but rather to offer the White race a completely new and 100% superior product that is totally dedicated to the Survival, Expansion and Advancement of the White race.

You're welcome to stay on this forum Apollonian, I hope you do stay and continue to read about Creativity and converse with Creators. I hope that one day you will think again about Christinsanity and understand the damage that it has caused the White race over the past 2000 years.

I wish you well, enjoy your time here.

RAHOWA!

Reverend Scott Harrison.
Title: Re: I'm anti-Semite Christian ... Is anti-Semitic Christianity Allowed Here?
Post by: MarkCook on Fri 06 Aug 2010
Welcome to the forum! 

I believe PM Cambeul/Rev.Masten pretty much summed it up!   You have to straighten out your thinking  to extract yourself from the Jews and their poison. Read Nature's Eternal Religion by PME  Ben Klassen and you should  begin to see where we are coming from.   

RaHoWa !!
Title: Re: I'm anti-Semite Christian ... Is anti-Semitic Christianity Allowed Here?
Post by: Rev.Cambeul on Wed 11 Aug 2010
From: apollonius apollonius apollonian0077@yahoo.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 12:29 AM
To: PM@creativityalliance.com
Subject: hello--seeking info....

QuoteHello: I tried to log-on to the forum but came up w. this msg--

" Sorry apollonian, you are banned from using this forum!
You were warned not to preach Christinsanity in Creator Forum"

Of course, I never preached Christianity--I only defended it fm ur pathetic attacks attempting to clarify things u falsely and ignorantly alleged about it.

I'd say u're justified in attacking the Judaic take-over of Christianity--which they do by means of nearly infinite quantities of COUNTERFEITED funds--and the "Judeo-Christian" hereticalist version of Christianity, esp. that of Charles Hagee (or Pat Robertson), for example, who says Christ was Jew.

BUT IF U SERIOUSLY ATTACK THE REAL, ORIGINAL THING, U STUPID MORONS, U'RE ASKING FOR DEATH--WE'RE NOT NOT NOT GOING TO TOLERATE IT, DIP-*S--why can't u figure that out?--is it because u're terminally stupid?
 

This is our land, scum, and u'd better get it through ur stupid heads--U'D BETTER BE NICE, NICE, NICE, NICE, NICE--or else.  If u're smart u'll take my warning to heart--but u don't seem too smart, do u?


So now that we're past the pleasantries, I understand fm "white will" there are "credos," one of which, no. 40, deals w. the COUNTERFEITING issue.  Where would u say I could find this, exactly, if it can be found on internet?  Thanks for all ur attn.  A.

Dear future reader: Appollonian was banned from Creator Forum because instead of confining his debate to this single topic, he tried to spread it out across the entire of Creator Forum in an attempt to convince us to worship his invisible Jewish friends. We took offence to his behaviour and banned him just as any Christian would rightly ban us should we Creators decide to go to Christian forums and do the same to them in return.

@Cailen.
Title: Re: I'm anti-Semite Christian ... Is anti-Semitic Christianity Allowed Here?
Post by: Rev.Cambeul on Thu 12 Aug 2010
When they think they have an enemy they outnumber they are militant, tough and murderers. When the Christinsane have an enemy they are wary of they use the sermon on the mount tactic.

With Creators and respect, it depends on numbers. Get used to it and get recruiting.

Pontifex Cambeul.
Title: Re: I'm anti-Semite Christian ... Is anti-Semitic Christianity Allowed Here?
Post by: my nation on Mon 30 Apr 2012
I would like to comment on this while I am new to this ,and in no way taking sides I have noticed that  even on this forum we White people fight amongst ourselves and argue samantics about which   White organization is right and which is wrong instead of working together in a comon struggle that is killing our race. This is not a new struggle by any means. Just look @ the history,I have read a number of books and keep an very open mind, because I see a common struggle ,and a common goal. I was raised on doctrine of Dr. Swift,and Pastor Richard Butler who have done a great bit of research of hebrew and greek texts of the scrptures of long ago. Now my pastor Morris Gullet of the Legions of saints Aryan Nation and the church of Jesus Christ Christian who have done and are still  vrry dtrong snd very active in our struggle not just creators but the entirr White race,We as a race have had many fallen soldiers and brothers from Hitler to David Lane,but no matter their religious beliefsor lack of we have a common purpose and that is the future of White children.If you can't find text on the racial purity of Christianity I personally feel it is because your not looking ,or you've no longer kept our struggle close to your hearts you have put being a creator first instead of your people.One  of thegreatest men of our  struggle was a Christian Adolf Hitler who has done more for our cause,than any present day person, he did not talked. So before judging our Christian brithers you should really study and know what you are basing your remarks on . And furthermore as Jesus being a jew is incorrect Jesus was frm the bloodline of David and David was not a jew  he was the decenent of Abraham who was the decendant of  Adam who was the placing of the first White man on the earth the niggers and other muds were preadamites as science states. You have to realize jews are not of adam they are of the serpent" devil"and eve adultry where Cain came from jews are the desendants of Cain. Anyways I am not preaching just showing that  our struggle did not start with the intrduction of creativity or one mans beliefs and our struggle is one of race rather than who's religionis really the Whites. This seperation is playing im to the ZOG hands and they are laughing all the way to the bank . We as a people need to unite as a White race as  a whole. ARYAN NATIONS. COM MAY HELP WITH YOUR SEEKING,TRY TO LEARN berfore you discredit and bann fellow brothers, we Need Every White person in this fight creators can not do it alone as a matter of fact before surfing the web i hadn't ever heard of you ,but i had heard of aryan nations. Why is that,? I wonder maybe its because you not activist but mearly people who preach,My concern is not with thw wolrd but with American where I reside, and being a felon can't leave.
Title: Re: I'm anti-Semite Christian ... Is anti-Semitic Christianity Allowed Here?
Post by: Sinn on Tue 01 May 2012
Sorry, I simply can't take a Christinsane seriously. I'd sooner consider a Cerebral Palsy or Down's syndrome person as an equal before somebody that comes here ranting and raving about the White race being descended from the filth described in the Old Testament - I am no son of Abraham, Lot or David.

We don't oppose pro-White Christians, we have bigger fish to fry. We don't hate you, we just pity you for your ignorance and idiocy. Feel free to stay here, just don't expect us to turn the other cheek when you natter on about utter rubbish.
Title: Re: I'm anti-Semite Christian ... Is anti-Semitic Christianity Allowed Here?
Post by: Maritz on Tue 01 May 2012
Hi My Nation,

I dont want to go too deep into organized religion, as we all know where that leads to, but I`m all for debate. I`m sure we all know that debating organized religion always goes in circles, never reaching the end, whose deity is bigger than the next, etc - why ? Because its not based on logic, simple as that. In Creativity we have a creed based on logic. In Creativity we have a practical programme to save the white Race from its problems, all spelled out in our Holy Books. Where in the CI holy books do we have such a practical plan to save the White Race ? The Holy Books of Creativity speak about the White Man - do your holy books speak about the White Man ?

We have nice stories and myths in all books of organized religion; yes mythology can teach us a few things, but does it teach us to help save the White Race ? A person sitting in a whale for three days; a father told to go sacrifice his son and practically selling his wife to the pharaoh enriching himself. Even if Abraham is not a jew as CI claims, I dont want my children reading this stuff - how do you think they will react to this specific Abrahamic lessons if they have to apply them in White society ? David that puts his best soldier in the front line so that he can get to his wife ? Hey son, seeing that you`re in the army and are a commander now, put Pete in the front line so you can get to his wife - thats the White thing to do ?!? You see where I`m coming from ? The normal CI response is that its taken out of context or that this god was testing his people - sorry, I dont buy that. If anything tests me, its the laws of Nature. Another thing is that this god is all to human - he loves gold, loves human sacrifice and even gets angry to the point where he kills indiscriminately, whether you do good or wrong. Even if you want to worship a deity, surely not this one ! Rather look at the energy behind the forces of Nature, and stand in awe, if you so chose, and call that god or whatever you want.

Now, as I have said in a post here, a while ago, I`m all for racialist unity. In South Africa we dont have the privilege of being full of crap when it comes to the defense of our race - if I find people to cooperate with, thats what I do, I cut out their religious beliefs and we work together on the racial aspect. If people kick me in the head, dont care if they`re CI, atheist, deist, agnostic, etc ... I remove myself and go in search for common ground. My outlook in life in South Africa have always been this - when the SHTF, nobody is going to be asking what I believe, as long as we face the same direction when confronting the enemy. I`m not sure how it is in other parts of the world, seeing I`ve never been outside South Africa except years ago when I was in Namibia for a few months, but in South Africa, we dont have the luxury of clashing heads over crap, it still happens, believe me, but people are in such danger of being annihilated, that common bonds are built as we speak.

I have asked the question on other forums in the past when it comes to christians and CI people that are sitting in filth and misery in squatter camps in South Africa - are you going to turn your back on a christian or CI child starving there, or are you going to help them ? I`m sure going to help them if I`m in the position to do so. The trick is to get common ground on the racial aspect, and leave the invisible aspect, thats personal - in the invisible aspect people believe what they want if they so chose, there is no right or wrong, because nothing can be proved or disproved, similar to scientific knowledge that are now "invisible" and "supernatural", but in time will become visible and thus natural.

I ask you again - Where in the CI holy books do we have such a practical plan to save the White Race as is in the Creativity Books ?
Title: Re: I'm anti-Semite Christian ... Is anti-Semitic Christianity Allowed Here?
Post by: Axelsson on Sat 05 May 2012
God, these spook-chasers get on my nerves! Please *be quiet!* :)
Title: Re: I'm anti-Semite Christian ... Is anti-Semitic Christianity Allowed Here?
Post by: Rev.Cambeul on Sat 05 May 2012
Quote from: my nation on Tue 01 May 2012We as a people need to unite as a White race as  a whole. ARYAN NATIONS. COM MAY HELP WITH YOUR SEEKING,TRY TO LEARN berfore you discredit and bann fellow brothers

You Christ-INSANE just do not get it: True biological racialists want absolutely nothing to do with you loonies! The average Christian is bad enough, but you Christian Identity/British Israel/Aryan Nations really take the cake. Even the average Christian admits that their unHoly book is all about foreign peoples, but you CI accept every word of it as the gospel truth and not only erroneously, but sickeningly claim a load of Jewish babel as the early history of the White Race.

Okay Christian, we gave you a chance to be a rational human being and you blew it. You are banned. You can do yourself a favour and pass on to your Jew-on-a-popsicle-stick loving Brothers, that we Creators will never bow down to your pretend unity under the forced belief of your invisible friends lunacy. Do not bother to preach to us, stay the hell away from us and keep Muslim brothers away while you're at it.

You truly are Christ-Insane.

Pontifex Cambeul.

This message has been forwarded to William Garrett.
Title: Re: I'm anti-Semite Christian ... Is anti-Semitic Christianity Allowed Here?
Post by: Albert on Mon 09 Jul 2012
The majority of Christians in the world are none white. Those christians that are white are generally pro race mixing and therefore weak and ultimately doomed. (The only exception to this of any note is the Boer type Christianity that while crazy does allow them some kind of tribal existence-at the same time it almost entirely responsible for the Boers not doing to Africa what the anglos did to north america) in effect Christianity castrated the Boer and made him love his enemy-the nigger.
If i was going to join a majority fictional mud religion I would join the muslims. Their concept of Jihad is not disimilar to Rahowa. I like how they are militant and have both the will to kill and to die..even if they are delusional. Their polygamy even allows a certain eugenics to take effect. Muslims on the whole are entirely anti-jewish and would kill them all if they had the chance.
The demographic tragedy facing the White race is that within 50 years the only elements that might  be classified as White may well be the low grade types still extant in the russian caucasus- chechens-ossetians etc. A very sorry fate for natures finest.
Title: Re: I'm anti-Semite Christian ... Is anti-Semitic Christianity Allowed Here?
Post by: Maritz on Mon 16 Jul 2012
Quote from: Rev.Albert on Mon 09 Jul 2012Those christians that are white are generally pro race mixing and therefore weak and ultimately doomed. (The only exception to this of any note is the Boer type Christianity that while crazy does allow them some kind of tribal existence-at the same time it almost entirely responsible for the Boers not doing to Africa what the anglos did to north america) in effect Christianity castrated the Boer and made him love his enemy-the nigger
The "Boer type Christianity" in South Africa is a form of CI – the judeo Christians are the English speaking and are the libtards that despised the Boer and took this country down with the British/American worldwide onslaught on South Africa – suppose they could never forgive the Boer for kicking their ass in the Boer war, so instead they committed war crimes to "win" through scourged earth policy and placed children and woman in concentration camps killing 27 000 innocent people

The "Boer type Christianity" you refer to slaughtered 12 000 zulus at Blood River, never forget that – "no turning the other cheek", no sir. Further this "Boer type Christianity" crushed the communists to a pulp in Angola, South West Africa, Mozambique and Rhodesia; the only reason they never finished the job is because of the British/American conspiracy against the racialists in this country – never forget that. You are wrong that the Boer loves the nigger – it is the judeo-christian English speaking libtards that loves the nigger – for this reason most right-wing groups in South Africa are exclusively Afrikaans speaking. "Boer type Christianity" could never subvert the Boer to foreign rule, libtards and traitors from within did this, so stop using religion as an excuse, it`s a cop-out

Quote from: Rev.Albert on Mon 09 Jul 2012If i was going to join a majority fictional mud religion I would join the muslims
Then you would have no problem with the mud religion of the jews either, seeing that both are semitic filth torn out of the same cloth
Title: Re: I'm anti-Semite Christian ... Is anti-Semitic Christianity Allowed Here?
Post by: Jim on Mon 16 Jul 2012
Quote from: Rev.Cook on Fri 06 Aug 2010
Welcome to the forum !  I believe PM Cambeul/Rev.Mastenpretty much summed it up  !   You have to  straighten out your thinking  to extract yourself from the Jews and  their  poison . Read  Nature's Eternal Religion  by  PME  Ben Klassen  and you  should  begin to see where we are coming from.   RaHoWa !!


I agree 100%