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Title: "Zulu"... Race War in the RAW!
Post by: Jimbo on Wed 17 Mar 2010
check out this very well-written review of the 1964 movie "Zulu" from the old "VNN"site (http://web.archive.org/web/20041011070555/www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/movie33.htm)....before they went all "semi-politically-correct"....a bit-torrent would probably be yr "best bet" for dwn/ldng a copy of this old classic!

"back in the day"....it used to be "required viewing" for new Australian Army recruits in the Puckapunyal auditorium....saw it my-self there.....very early 1980s......WAYyyyyy too "politically incorrect" for the squaddies or the choccos in these benighted times, of course!

ahh.....those were better and more innocent times!   :)

Video Removed at Source
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=zulu+(1964)+review

*hope the "link" works, eh?!?*
Title: Re: "Zulu"... Race War in the RAW!
Post by: Rev.Cambeul on Wed 17 Mar 2010
By the late 80's the movie was fondly remembered in Puckapunyal and Kapooka; but in Kapooka (regular army Recruit Training Battalion) it had been replaced by films that priests occasionally showed in propaganda lessons, while we were ordered to watch them. Refusing to pay attention to the dog collared orificers with honorary rank, the only thing that sticks in my mind now was their showing of a Dire Straits video (which still didn't interest me but was probably the only thing that made sense).

Zulu is a good movie. Worth obtaining and far better than Zulu Dawn, which is a dramatization of the attack on the Column before the attack on Rorke's Drift. The movie is available for $5 to $10 from your local video bin in the supermarket, online, or go to your local public library and pirate their copy.

Things to look out for:
An aircraft flies over.
A Zulu sniper is seen wearing a wrist watch.
There is a light blue VW Combi seen in the hills during one scene.

Inconsistencies:
Incorrigible criminal and drunk Private Henry Hook in the movie was nothing like it in real life.
For more inconsistencies check out the main site with another movie review at http://www.rorkesdriftvc.com/zulu.htm (http://www.rorkesdriftvc.com/zulu.htm)

Quote from: the movieIt looks, er, jolly simple doesn't it? (Lt Bromhead to Adendorff)
Jolly deadly old boy! (Adendorff)
Well done Adendorff, we'll make an Englishman of you yet! (Lt Bromhead)
No thanks, I'm a Boer. The Zulus are the enemy of my blood, but what are you doing here? (Adendorff)
You don't object to our help I hope? (Lt Bromhead)
It all depends on what you damned English want for it afterwards! (Adendorff)

Quote from: Lieutenant Chard's report to Queen Victoria (not in the movie)"In wrecking the stores in my wagon, the Zulus had brought to light a forgotten bottle of beer, and Bromhead and I drank it with mutual congratulations on having come safely out of so much danger."

@Cailen.
Title: Re: "Zulu"... Race War in the RAW!
Post by: MarkCook on Thu 18 Mar 2010
Is this the movie starring Michael Caine?  My dad used to love watching it.
Title: Re: "Zulu"... Race War in the RAW!
Post by: Rev.Cambeul on Thu 18 Mar 2010
Yes, it's the same one. Michael Caine plays Lt Bromhead.
Title: Re: "Zulu"... Race War in the RAW!
Post by: StephenMasten (Prison) on Sun 16 May 2010
Fans of the Gladiator movie starring Russel Crowe will notice when watching Zulu that the sound of the German army at the beginning of the movie is simply taken from the chanting niggers in Zulu.
Title: Re: "Zulu"... Race War in the RAW!
Post by: Jimbo on Fri 25 Mar 2011
Rvrnd Col.....for a good while now, i'v been trying to locate any comprehensive reference to a small, British detachment.....prblby ony "company"-size or, maybe, slightly larger that fought with the Waffen-SS in the final, desperate & climactic "Battle of Berlin" during April, 1945.....

this small group, apparently, held off and, then, destroyed, two entire Soviet tank regiments  :o

the Russian Marshall Zhukov was reported to have mentioned the incident(s) to the British Ambassador to East Germany at an Embassy reception/dinner some-time in the early 1960s and to have remarked that every member of the detachment, who fought to the last man and the last bullet, should have been awarded the Victoria Cross! (posthumously!)

from what i can determine, the leader of this small detachment was a certain Sturmscharführer Cornfield or, maybe, "Cornford"...... (equivalent in rank to "regimental sergeant-major")


cheers!

(Jimbo)

*note*.....called the British Free Corps....here's a "Wiki" rfrnc..... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Free_Corps (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Free_Corps) ....heavily biased, of course....although, the general info' is prblby, more or less, correct, eh?!?.....the "Wiki" article contradicts it-self.....at the start it says that the BFC never numbered more than "27", yet, the "foot-notes" list almost "50" former British and Commonwealth military personnel!

** Adrian Weale's research has identified about 59 men who belonged to this unit at one time or another, some for only a few days. At no time did it reach more than 27 men in strength — smaller than a contemporary German platoon .....well, we've only got their "word" for that.....doubtless, UK ZOG wouldn't want the truth coming out....i'm "plonking" for a strength of 50 men......"27" ain't even a viable unit....wouldn't be worth the time, effort or expense of maintaining such a tiny, independent group.....**
Title: Re: "Zulu"... Race War in the RAW!
Post by: Rev.Cambeul on Fri 25 Mar 2011
While the history books say they were used only for ceremonial duty and propaganda purposes touring the prison camps, reports from eyewitnesses claim to have seen the BFC fighting on the Russian Front and in the Battle of Berlin. The latter as part of the Nordland Division. The numbers would have made them at least platoon size.

British and American SS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-jHuqkZzOw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_y71_XhQqA
Title: Re: "Zulu"... Race War in the RAW!
Post by: Rev.Cambeul on Sat 09 Apr 2011
New info for me: did you know that the proposed Emperor Napoleon IV (son of Napoleon III) was killed fighting the Zulus (prior to Roarkes Drift with the main column) for the British army?

The Zulu nation issued an apology stating that if they knew whom it was, they would not have stabbed him with a spear, driven off his personal bodyguard, then eviscerated the body to prevent his spirit rising to gain revenge.

Pontifex Cambeul.
Title: Re: "Zulu"... Race War in the RAW!
Post by: Rev.Cambeul on Tue 09 Dec 2014
Historical accuracy

Although writer Cy Endfield consulted a Zulu tribal historian for information from Zulu oral tradition about the attack,[3] a number of historical inaccuracies in the film have been noted:

The regiment
The 24th Regiment of Foot is described as a Welsh regiment: in fact, although it was based in Brecon in South Wales, its designation was the '24th (The 2nd Warwickshire) Regiment of Foot'. It did not become the South Wales Borderers until 1881. Of the soldiers present, 49 were English, 32 Welsh, 16 Irish and 22 others of indeterminate nationality.

The song "Men of Harlech" features prominently as the regimental song; it did not become so until later. At the time of the battle, the regimental song was "The Warwickshire Lad". There was no "battlefield singing contest" between the British and the Zulus.

The Witts
There are several inconstencies with the historical record concerning the Swedish missionaries, the Witts. In the film, Witt is depicted as a middle-aged widower, a pacifist and drunkard, who has an adult daughter called Margareta. In reality, Otto Witt was aged 30, and had a wife, Elin, and two infant children. Witt's family were 30 kilometres (19 mi) away at the time of the battle. On the morning of the battle, Otto Witt, with the chaplain, George Smith and Surgeon-Major James Henry Reynolds had ascended Shiyane, the large hill near the station, and noticed the approach of the Zulu force across the Buffalo River. Far from being a pacifist, Witt had co-operated closely with the army and negotiated a lease to put Rorke's Drift at Lord Chelmsford's disposal. Witt made it clear that he did not oppose British intervention against Cetshwayo. He had stayed at Rorke's Drift because he wished "to take part in the defence of my own house and at the same time in the defence of an important place for the whole colony, yet my thoughts went to my wife and to my children, who were at a short distance from there, and did not know anything of what was going on". He therefore left on horseback to join his family shortly before the battle.

The men of the regiment
Lieutenants John Chard and Gonville Bromhead:
Chard had received his commission in April 1868, making Bromhead the junior officer and second-in-command at the Drift even though he was an infantryman and Chard was an engineer. In the film, it is stated that Bromhead received his commission only three months after Chard when, in fact, it was a full three years after Chard.

Surgeon Reynolds: During the Battle of Rorke's Drift, Reynolds went around the barricades, distributing ammunition and tending to the wounded there, something that is not shown in the film.[12] During the closing voiceover, he is also incorrectly referred to as "Surgeon-Major, Army Hospital Corps"; Reynolds was of the Army Medical Department, and was not promoted to the rank of Surgeon-Major until after the action at Rorke's Drift.[13] The pacifism apparent in Magee's portrayal is also somewhat anachronistic and not based on the historical Surgeon Reynolds.

Private Henry Hook VC is depicted as a rogue with a penchant for alcohol; in fact he was a model soldier who later became a sergeant; he was also a teetotaller. While the film has him in the hospital "malingering, under arrest", he had actually been assigned there specifically to guard the building.[14] The filmmakers felt that the story needed an anti-hero who redeems himself in the course of events, but the film's presentation of Hook caused his daughter to walk out of the film premiere in disgust.

Conversely, Corporal William Allen is depicted as a model soldier; in fact, he had recently been demoted from sergeant for drunkenness.
Colour Sergeant Frank Bourne (1854–1945) is depicted as a big, hardened, middle-aged veteran; in fact, he was of modest stature and, aged 24, the youngest colour sergeant in the British Army.[16] He was called "The Kid" by his men.[17] Colour Sergeant Bourne would not have worn medals on his duty uniform. Moreover, Green's costume has the chevrons on the wrong arm. After the battle Bourne was offered a commission, but turned it down because he lacked the money necessary to serve as a commissioned officer; he did accept a commission in 1890. He was the last British survivor of the Battle, he died as a full Colonel.
The role of Padre George Smith ("Ammunition" Smith) is completely ignored.

Corporal Christian Ferdinand Schiess was only 22, significantly younger than the actor who portrayed him.

The detachment of cavalry from "Durnford's Horse" who ride up to the mission station were members of the Natal Native Contingent, mainly composed of black riders, (rather than the local white farmers depicted in the film), who had survived the Battle of Isandlwana and had ridden to Rorke's Drift to warn and aid the garrison there. They were present during the opening action with the Zulus, but then rode off as they had very little ammunition for their cavalry carbines. Captain Stephenson is depicted at their head; in reality he was leading the NNC infantry, who had already deserted.

The uniforms of the Natal Native Contingent are inaccurate: NNC troops were not issued with European-style clothes. The story of their desertion is true. However, as Witt had already left, he was not responsible for their departure. They left of their own accord, with Captain Stephenson and his European NCOs. These deserters were fired-at as they left and one of their NCOs, Corporal Anderson, was killed. Stephenson was later convicted of desertion at a court-martial and dismissed from the army.

The Zulus
The attack on the mission station was not ordered by King Cetshwayo, as the audience is led to believe in the film. Cetshwayo had specifically told his warriors not to invade Natal, the British Colony. The attack was led by Prince Dabulamanzi kaMpande, the King's half-brother, who pursued fleeing survivors at Isandlwana across the river and then moved on to attack Rorke's Drift. Although almost 20,000 rounds of ammunition were fired by the defenders, only about 375 dead Zulus were found at Rorke's Drift; however, scores of Zulu dead were found further afield (dying from wounds or finished off by their own side), which suggests that about 500 Zulus died and about another 500 were wounded. Zulus feared the bayonet more than the bullet, and most had died without being shot.

Ending
The ending of the film is somewhat fictitious. There was no Zulu attack at dawn on 23 January 1879, which in the film led to the singing of "Men of Harlech". There was only sparse fighting with a few remaining Zulus.

However at roughly 7:00 am, Impi suddenly appeared, and the British manned their positions again. No attack materialized, as the Zulus had been on the move for six days prior to the battle. In their ranks were hundreds of wounded, and they were several days march from any supplies.

Around 8:00 am, another force appeared, the defenders abandoned their breakfast, and manned their position again. However the force turned out to be the vanguard of Lord Chelmsford's relief column.

The Zulus did not sing a song saluting fellow warriors, and they did not depart peacefully. They scarpered at the approach of the British relief column.
Title: Re: "Zulu"... Race War in the RAW!
Post by: Rev.Cambeul on Sat 25 Feb 2017
Quote from: Jimbo on Fri 25 Mar 2011*note*.....called the British Free Corps....here's a "Wiki" rfrnc..... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Free_Corps ....heavily biased, of course....although, the general info' is prblby, more or less, correct, eh?!?.....the "Wiki" article contradicts it-self.....at the start it says that the BFC never numbered more than "27", yet, the "foot-notes" list almost "50" former British and Commonwealth military personnel!

** Adrian Weale's research has identified about 59 men who belonged to this unit at one time or another, some for only a few days. At no time did it reach more than 27 men in strength — smaller than a contemporary German platoon .....well, we've only got their "word" for that.....doubtless, UK ZOG wouldn't want the truth coming out....i'm "plonking" for a strength of 50 men......"27" ain't even a viable unit....wouldn't be worth the time, effort or expense of maintaining such a tiny, independent group.....**

British Free Corps: The Brits Who Fought for Hitler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhwfIkoRjMw

The British Free Corps was betrayed by a traitor who joined only to feed MI5 with information. John Brown, the quartermaster of a camp at Genshagen. As Germany collapsed, Brown's information allowed the Allies to round up the heroes who often posed as fleeing PoWs. They were prosecuted and sentenced at court martial and treason trials before many were summarily hanged. The intelligence files were quietly closed and access to the devastating information within was restricted. There was no cover-up, rather a conspiracy of indifference. For the first time on British Television, the British SS soldiers speak of their service and heroism against the oncoming Soviet onslaught.
Title: Re: "Zulu"... Race War in the RAW!
Post by: Rev.Cambeul on Sat 03 Mar 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvpnNa1nFWI
Title: Re: "Zulu"... Race War in the RAW!
Post by: Rev.Cambeul on Sat 03 Mar 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODM1RJe4FvQ

White Man Fight ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1csr0dxalpI

Men of Harlech, stop your dreaming
Can't you see their spearpoints gleaming
See their warrior pennants streaming
To this battle field

Men of Harlech stand ye steady
It can not be ever said ye
For the battle were not ready
Welshmen never yield

From the hills rebounding
Let this war cry sounding
Summon all at Cambria's call
The mighty foe surrounding

Men of Harlech on to glory
This will every be your story
Keep these burning words before ye
Welshmen will not yield

The whole, "Saluting Fellow Braves" thing never happened. Nigs killed until they were beaten and f.cked off. Don't believe Stanley Baker's 60's romp. It's a fake.

Phucking good as it is to watch!

@Cailen.

P.S.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuUnd9Db6Hg
Title: Re: "Zulu"... Race War in the RAW!
Post by: Rev.Cambeul on Thu 25 Jul 2019
History ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VygWpmwBO8M
Title: Re: "Zulu"... Race War in the RAW!
Post by: Rev.Cambeul on Sat 15 Feb 2020
Don't let the Nigga Take the Pith!
Why the Pith Helmet?

2nd Video: The Battle of Rorke's Drift tactics

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8k3NGSdfLE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7B9dRpWMp80
Title: Re: "Zulu"... Race War in the RAW!
Post by: Rev.Cambeul on Wed 25 Mar 2020
The best part: Kill the Spear Chuckas:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODM1RJe4FvQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZmrS_w6s7s
Title: Re: "Zulu"... Race War in the RAW!
Post by: Rev.Cambeul on Sat 13 Feb 2021
Just Killin' Niggers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raBNUUj1-fY

"Fire at Will!"  How do they know which Nigger is named Will?
Title: Re: "Zulu"... Race War in the RAW!
Post by: Rev.Cambeul on Mon 24 Jan 2022
The Real Story of Isandlwana and Rorke's Drift With Historian

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjiPd4x6rf4
Title: Re: "Zulu"... Race War in the RAW!
Post by: N567 on Wed 26 Jan 2022
A perfect example of the conflict between an industrialized empire and primitive tribes.

I have 2 threads discussing the fact that the people of Eurasia already had industrial empires while the Jews, Africans and Native Americans were still stone age savages:

https://creativityalliance.com/forum/general-jabber/the-agrarian-eurasians-and-the-primitive-jews-africans-and-native-americans

https://creativityalliance.com/forum/general-jabber/the-industrial-eurasians-and-the-primitive-jews-africans-and-native-americans

While the Africans were using stone spears, the British already had the following weapons and even had observation dirigibles powered by steam engines which were invented by an American named Solomon Andrews in 1863:

Army:

Metallic Cartridge
Conical Bullet
Exploding Bullet
Incendiary Bullet
Firing Pin
Nitrocellulose Explosive and Propellant Charge
Double-Action Revolver
Recoil Operated Automatic Revolver
Pump Action Rifles and Shotguns
Bolt Action Rifle
Clip
Magazine
Recoil/Blowback/Gas Operated Machine Gun
Impact Grenade
Impact Fused Artillery Shells
Conical Shell
Automatic Cannon
Gatling Cannon
Troop/Supply Train
Armored Train
Anti-Railroad Mine
Railway Gun
Field Telegraph

Navy:

Self-Propelled Torpedo
Torpedo Boat
Pre-Dreadnought Battleships made of iron and steel parts and equipped with forced draft furnaces, multiple expansion steam engines, cannon turrets, breech loading cannons and torpedoes

Aircraft:

Observation Dirigible
Title: Re: "Zulu"... Race War in the RAW!
Post by: Rev.Cambeul on Sun 19 Mar 2023
'Nothing is off limits to the woke onslaught': Movie Zulu cited inspiration for terrorist groups

Whites that watch the movie Zulu, are to be treated as TERRORISTS!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYoetleoBVI
Title: Re: "Zulu"... Race War in the RAW!
Post by: Rev.Cambeul on Tue 05 Mar 2024
Quote from: Rev.Cambeul on Sun 19 Mar 2023'Nothing is off limits to the woke onslaught': Movie Zulu cited inspiration for terrorist groups

Also set to be banned, is Yes Minister, and The Thick of It. Those two are anti-government satire.

Meanwhile, Sir Michael Caine has declared the potential banning of Zulu as an inspiration to so-called "Right-Wing" Terrorists to be "Utter bullshit!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXGVCKhxRfg

And BTW, they also banned Mary Poppins in the usual "THAT'S RACIST!" fashion. Well, what do you expect? Dame Julie Andrews is now 88. Sir Michael was 88 two years ago. :P

(https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/9ez9uwCVBycm84HgsYkW6g--~B/aD01MTI7dz03Njg7YXBwaWQ9eXRhY2h5b24-/http://media.zenfs.com/en/homerun/feed_manager_auto_publish_494/f684f4d1d1912e746436026edaabe0cb)

Quote from: MSMhttps://losgatosnewsandevents.com/mary-poppins-chimney-sweep-blackface-dance-is-racist-claims-tutorial

(https://creativityalliance.com/forum/gallery/3/9-010723154339.jpeg)
The chimney sweep dance in Mary Poppins, led by Dick van Dyk's affable all-rounder Burt, goes back to "blackface" tropes, as one scientist has claimed.

In an article in the New York Times, (((Daniel Pollack-Pelzner))), Professor of English and Gender Studies at Linfield College, Oregon, said that the sequence in PL Travers' book means "Racial Panic".

Pollack-Pelzner flatly calls the scene "black-up," and while it appears harmless, it has other more unsettling connotations.

"This could seem like a harmless comic scene if Travers' novels don't associate the blackened faces of chimney sweeps with racist caricature," he writes.

"'Don't touch me, you black pagan,' yells a housemaid in Mary Poppins Open the Door (1943) as a wave extends his dark hand. When he tries to approach the cook, she threatens to stop: "If this Hottentot goes down the chimney, I'll go out the door," she says, using an archaic sheet for black South Africans that is repeated on the page and screen.

"The 1964 film repeats this racist panic in a farce. When the dark shapes of the chimney sweep onto a roof in time, Admiral Boom, a marine idiot, yells: "We are being attacked by the Hottentots!" and orders his cannon to be fired at the "cheeky devils".

"We're involved in the joke the way it is: they're not really black Africans; They are grinning white dancers in black. It's a parody of the black menace; It's even posted on a white nationalist website as evidence of the film's racial hierarchy. And it's not just fools like the admiral who invoke this language. In the 1952 novel Mary Poppins, the nanny herself tells a disgruntled young Michael, "I understand you are acting like a Hottentot."