Christian Identists

[PatTracy]

They best we'll ever do with them is common civility at a rally or some other gathering. I once read that one of the CI leaders considered us allies but that as far as our huge difference in religion he would "let god judge us". That's fine by me and good polite, civil conduct by one CI. Any group that is opposing jog (or ZOG, if thats what they call it) will not have any quarrel with me. Several fronts working separately but with a similar level and style of legal activism is good for all of us. That said, they would not get more than a handshake, salute, and polite general conversation from me. We simply have nothing more in common and we do not need to be friends. For practical reasons, we should have as little to do with them as possible.

[Rev.Cambeul]

My experience with CI is of them openly advocating for the murder of all "infidels." The radicals treat atheists as the misguided who just need to be given the truth, and us Creators as the Spawn of Satan who do the work of the Jew and need to be killed today. Others are less openly radical, but in private they talk about winning the race war and afterwards murdering all "infidels" - beginning with Creators. The choice of partner for CI in their holy war against the Jew, the Creator and the other "infidels" is the Muslim - who of course does not respect CI in the slightest - but since when has the truth ever stopped a CI from his fantasies?. So it's not an ideological or a spiritual difference as some might think. Rather, the fight for the minds and hearts against Christians of any breed - but most especially CI - are part and parcel of the current, cold, Racial Holy War.

Of course if the reality of South Africa and Rhodesia has taught us anything, it is that these radical Christinsane that advocate for our extermination, will more or less disappear as they realise that they need every White man, woman and child armed and ready to fight the more numerous mud in a very real and bloody race war. When the * hits the fan, religious ideology largely goes out the window in favour of racial solidarity.  Any continuance of religious ideology is community based, which in a guerilla war extends to individual militia formations for the unity that a common "spiritual" bond brings - but in the end, whether it's Creators fighting for Family, Folk and Fatherland, or it's Christinsane fighting for God, Folk, Family and Fatherland, in a bloody racial war, it matters little what ideology you follow; just as long as you fight!

However, there is still a risk: History tells us that when the enemy is defeated, the militant spook follower will always claim that our victory belongs to his invisible Jewish Lord, and what follows is a typical modern day repeat of ancient sacrificial rites. The militant spook follower will blame the unbeliever, the "infidel" for the collapse of his Godly society, and they will eradicate the menace of the Godless without mercy; but to do that, they need the numbers. Furthermore, if the militant Christinsane believe for a moment that they can win this Racial Holy War without the assistance of us "infidels," their leaders will attempt to exterminate us in the opening salvo of the war. Again it all depends on their numbers vs ours.

And yet, there is an old medical related saw that is perfect in this situation: Prevention is better than the cure.

@Cailen.

[Sinn]

The simple fact is, the Christinsane can't solve the Jewish problem, or the Muslim problem, or the nigger problem for the exact same reasons they haven't done it in 2000 years - they can't see the forest for the trees. They refuse to see past their muddled and warped worldview and therefore, they're confused and mentally crippled in their problem solving ability. The Crusaders didn't wipe out the Muslims when they had them on the run, the Christinsane churches made the niggers of America in to equals and now even the CI consider the Muslims a potential ally.

It is my opinion that Christinsanity is dying a much more rapid death, almost every White country will have a Christinsane minority in the next 50 years. The difference will be that although some formerly Christinsane will forget their God and move to the just as poisonous "secular humanism" (read: Christinsanity without Jesus), many will also move to social Darwinism and the Creator worldview. When the RaHoWa turns hot, the remaining Christinsane will be begging to join our barricades as we'll have the foundations set for reality, rather than waiting for the prophesied return of the dead Jew on a stick.

With all of that said, I agree with Pat, polite association, nothing more. We have no obligation to befriend the brain polluted but I never advocate for the burning of bridges with people we have no real quarrel with.

[JulianCM]

I recently read "The White Man's Bible" and agreed with it strongly when it comes to the Christian problem. I am fairly active on stormfront, and while not everyone on there is a christian, I feel like there is enough of a Christian mentality on there that it makes it hard to be honest when it comes to Christianity. I am glad there is a white nationalist movement that is also anti-Christianity. I'm sick of the CI arguments that we are doing the work of the Jews because we don't believe in the outrageous lies and stupidity of the bible. I think that it is a definite divider of white nationalists, either we all accept Christianity, or not. I don't see much of a middle ground.

Clearly not everyone will accept Christianity, that would be like expecting white nationalists to start loving jews and negroes. And it is not very likely that Pro Christians will stop believing in their god. So what is the pro Christian side of white nationalists actually doing?

Christianity is clearly a shell of its former self. To quote Jesus, Christianity has become the sepulcher which is beautiful on the outside but filled with old men's bones. The majority of Christians support Israel and the Jews, and only a few "fringe" groups actually oppose homosexuality, even less oppose Jews. The Christian White Nationalists think that they have a 1 billion strong Christian behind them, but that is not true. I never really believed that Christianity was a billion followers to begin with, I never remembered signing off on that, and certainly there are not a billion racially aware Christians, so the entire thing is like a sick joke.

The benefit of those who deny Christianity is that we can move past the belief in myths and not be tied down by a destructive religion. Christianity offers the white man nothing. I oftentimes will see a van driving down the street with some ridiculous name like "Jesus Christ Power" written on it, driven by a black. Christianity is multicultural, Hitler even hinted at this in a private conversation that Christianity was the original communism, it is just a shame he was not more vocal about this in public. Christianity tells us to love our enemies and turn the other cheek, which is not even entirely true to the life of Jesus. Jesus made a whip out of tapestry cords and chased the money changers out of the temple, that is hardly "turning the other cheek," but in the end Jesus sat there and let himself be tortured. Whether any of this happened or not, it is what Christians believe and it is just plain evil to allow a tyrant to torture you and not fight back.

 

[Rev.Cambeul]

This is from a recent comment I made on White Nations Forum re How do you feel about christianity and christians? Note: http://WhiteNations.com Forum is part of the RaHoWa Net of Websites.

http://whitenations.com/showthread.php?p=32167#post32167

From the WN Forum Poll: How do you feel about christianity and christians?

I am a christian and I won't give it up.                                           16   29.63%
I like christians but hate their religion.                                       3   5.56%
I hate christians and their religion.                                      15   27.78%
These options don't fit my opinion, see my remarks below.      20   37.04%

My Choice: I hate christians and their religion.

I chose that option in the poll because it is exactly how I feel. Oh, I don't hate every Christian. There are those that understand that their beliefs are their own business and do not attempt to impose them on anyone, although they do mention that they are Christian or point out things they see from a uniquely Christian viewpoint from time to time, it is entirely acceptable because they do not have that typical Christian arrogance and get on with the job - be it shovelling * in the factory pigsty, pushing pens in the office, or saving and advancing the White Race. Those I accept as brothers and sisters without question.

As for the rest: Your minds are as twisted as any superstitious, voodoo dancing nigger. Given the total power the lot of you crave, you would impose a pogrom on all declared heretics. Don't try denying it either. I've read it on the discussions on your personal profiles here at White Nations Forum. You have an intense hatred of anyone that has the temerity to question your superstitious claptrap and amongst yourselves discuss how they (we, because I am included here) are just like the Jew/even worse than the Jews/or do the work of the Jew by denying your Jew-on-a-stick and your Jewish sky-god.

The Golden Rule of Creativity is what is good for the White Race is the highest virtue: By our own rule, if Creativity was bad for the White Race, we would close our Churches and burn our books and our flags. Race is not all that matters to us, but it is what defines us. You Christians on the other hand, take either the Jew or the Muslim as your preferred partner, or you turn the other pacifistic cheek and pray for peace. Very few of you ever have the balls to talk rationally in case your fellow Christians - the Christinsane might overhear your discussions with the heretics.

Without launching into why I hate Christianity - although you should have picked up a few hints, that is why I hate Christians. If I had my way, I'd boot all of you out on your arses and tell you to go back to Stormfront and kiss the Black's bum; but lucky for you lot, I was only hired as a Web Designer, and by my own rule, my Admin status here is only used for the improvement and maintenance of WN Forum.

So here is the situation, Christians: We have three White Racialist Forums that are an extension of one community. One is Creator Forum, dedicated to the biological religion of Creativity and run by myself and a few others that you know; another is White Biocentrism Forum, dedicated to the religion of Cosmotheism and run by Will Williams and a few others that you know; and then we have the somewhat secular White Nations Forum - which is the only one where you can get away with your Jew inspired hocus pocus and crying about needing to love the inferior mud races - even if in only a limited way.

So WN Forum is where you Christians need to play nice. If you can't, then you'll only make us non-theistic White Racialists hate you all the more and the general WN Forum admin will eventually boot your arse once they tire of your bull*. For the remainder that are capable of playing nicely but are chomping at the bit for a place to discuss your religious views in a White Racialist environment, I suggest you do what we Creators and Cosmotheists have done, and start your own White Racialist Forum dedicated to Christianity. If you are smart about it, you will put the White Race first and remain with WN Forum, treating it as the neutral crossing point between the various groups of White Racial Loyalists as we Biological Racialists already do. And in that way, rather than being four separate forums, you can be part of one massive network that includes you and your beliefs. ... Of course, if all you are going to do on your Christian Forum is bleat about us non-theistic/Biological Racialists being demons from Hell doing our deeds for the Satanic Jew, then you can shove your unity and we Biological Racialists will continue as we have always done and continue to grow.

So how about it, Christians? Are you going to remain arrogant sods all your life? Or is the light bulb in that superstitious head of yours finally going to light up and allow to join the rest of us that put our race before all else?

Cailen.