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Title: Ben Klassen's Grave
Post by: StephenMasten (Prison) on Thu 31 Oct 2013
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Hale never visited the place. Never encouraged anyone to visit, never encouraged anyone to clean it up. Pretended it never existed.

Cailen has been imploring us Americans to do something and in ten years he's succeeded in having the entire grave site cleaned up several times now, but what is needed is a regular clean up.
Title: Re: Ben Klassen's Grave
Post by: PaulW on Fri 01 Nov 2013
JUST WATCHED THIS VIDEO (now deleted by YouTube).
THIS IS OUT OF ORDER....

THERE MUST BE SOMEONE DOWN THAT WAY WHO CAN POP IN EVERY MONTH OR SO TO KEEP OUR FOUNDERS GRAVE UP TO SCRATCH.

HOW CAN THIS BE ALLOWED TO HAPPEN ?
IF IT WAS NOT FOR OUR FOUNDER, OUR CHURCH WOULD NOT BE HERE.

I DON'T LIKE HAVING A GO AT MY BROTHERS.

BUT GET A GRIP OVER THERE IN THE US AND SORT THIS DISGRACEFUL DISRESPECTING, SITUATION OUT NOW.

IF YOU CANT SORT IT BETWEEN YOU. FIND SOMEONE IN THE AREA WHO CAN AND LET ME KNOW AND I WILL PAY FOR IT.
Title: Re: Ben Klassen's Grave
Post by: StephenMasten (Prison) on Fri 01 Nov 2013
If it is possible to pay somebody in the area to take care of the gravesite, even if it is just once a month, I would gladly contribute towards a Ben Klassen Necropolis Maintenance Fund.
Title: Re: Ben Klassen's Grave
Post by: PaulW on Fri 01 Nov 2013
Nice one brother. One way or the other we will sort out this disgrace.
I am not very good at waiting. So I keep looking for our American brothers to get on site.  To say no problem its sorted.
And it will never get in this state again.

Title: Re: Ben Klassen's Grave
Post by: PaulW on Sat 02 Nov 2013
I dont want to piss ofF my American brothers, but its been a day now and there is no posting or mail saying the problem
is being sorted. Or even being looked into.

I dont understand why this matter is not on top of the things to do list.

We can't just pop over from the UK or Australia etc to clean our founders grave. So its up to the revs members and friends of our
church in America to get it done !

If we cant do this for our founder, and a man who fought all his life for our people.

Then what can we do. DON'T LET US DOWN AMERICA !

As myself and others in the church in the uk have offered to pay if need be. There is no reason it cant be done.

Just find us a person in the area to do it. And as i say we will sort it out for you.
Title: Re: Ben Klassen's Grave
Post by: StephenMasten (Prison) on Sat 02 Nov 2013
I was just recently thinking of how utterly grotesque and pathetic it would be if we White Loyalists outside of the US ended up having to pay some Mestizo to clean our Founder's grave site, as there are no so-called 'White Loyalists' in the area decent enough to do the job. Shame on top of shame. :-/
Title: Re: Ben Klassen's Grave
Post by: PaulW on Sat 02 Nov 2013
I am going to take this thing further and say. I dont like the grave stone or the grave itself. I think our founder needs something better, how about a sculpture of the church W and crown.

So not knowing the laws costs permissions etc over in the us.

I will have to leave this matter in your hands over there also.

I believe our founder deserves it. And so does future Creators.

So lets talk about it. Cost it. And sort it !
Title: Re: Ben Klassen's Grave
Post by: StephenMasten (Prison) on Sat 02 Nov 2013
Well, Paul, to me the gravestone looks fine, but I will go further than you on the point. I don't like graveyards or gravestones, full stop. I advocate all those who die to be cremated, and the energy that is produced in the process used to heat up public swimming pools, sports facilities, libraries, museums, or some other public venue that benefits our people. All of these huge cemeteries ought to be converted into well-maintained parks for White children to play, and perhaps we could have one giant cenotaph in remembrance of our forefathers and fallen comrades. But this is beside the point. This is the grave of our Founder, the Founder of Creativity, who chose to have a tombstone erected for himself; a place where White Loyalists the world over could come and pay their respects, renew their pledge of Loyalty to the White Race and Zeal for our religious beliefs. For this reason Creators the world over have a duty to care for and to respect the Ben Klassen Necropolis. For frig sake, even Marxists tend to the grave of old Moses Mordecai himself. :-/

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Title: Re: Ben Klassen's Grave
Post by: Br.IanVonTurpie on Sun 03 Nov 2013
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Well, even if you had a statue , it may entice the clowns to come and make a mess of the place. Once I went to the Grave of Jim Morrisson in Paris, with these French Canadian girls. What a mess / circus that became.
Title: Re: Ben Klassen's Grave
Post by: PaulW on Sun 03 Nov 2013
I TAKE YOUR POINTS BROTHERS BUT TO ME IT STILL COMES DOWN TO RESPECTING OUR FOUNDER.

HOW CAN WE SAY WE ARE CREATORS. BUT LEAVE BEN KLASSEN NOT ONLY OUR FOUNDER. BUT A MAN WHO WE SAY WE FOLLOW TO BE REMEMBERED IN THIS DISGRACEFUL WAY.

I CANT BELIEVE WE AS A CHURCH WOULD LET THIS HAPPEN. HOW CAN I BE WRONG ON THIS MATTER. FORGET MY IDEA ABOUT A MORE FITTING SCULPTURE. ITS MORE IMPORTANT JUST TO SHOW BASIC RESPECT. AND GET THE SITE CLEANED UP.

I AM NOT LOOKING TO UPSET ANYONE OR CAUSE TROUBLE IN THE CHURCH. BUT I HAVE TO SAY THE UK AND AUSTRALIA SIDE OF THE CHURCH IS HAVING ITS SAY ON THIS SUBJECT.

WHERE ARE THE MEMBERS ETC. FROM AMERICA IN THE NC AREA? TELL ME TO PISS OFF / SHUT MY MOUTH / OR ANYTHING YOU WISH. BUT GET YOUR FINGERS OUT IN THE U S AND GET IT DONE. OR AT LEAST TELL ME WHY IT CANT BE DONE ! 
Title: Re: Ben Klassen's Grave
Post by: Chuck on Sun 03 Nov 2013
Rest assured reverend, it's being handled.
Title: Re: Ben Klassen's Grave
Post by: PaulW on Sun 03 Nov 2013
Thank you Rev. Chuck.

That is all I ask. And to all any any members etc in America I would just like to say sorry if I went over the top on this but as I am sure you can see from my posts on this subject I take this matter seriously.

We need to respect our founder all members of our church and all future creators out there if we are to win this fight for our race. I look forward to seeing pictures of the cleaned up grave . 
Title: Re: Ben Klassen's Grave
Post by: Jim on Sun 03 Nov 2013
I can not swear on it but I will see what I can do about it. Maybe sometime time this week I will ride up and see what I can get done. I have never been up there - I have been saying that I was going up but never did. I agree that its a shame to see the grave site look like this.   Now that the weather is turning cooler I may have sometime to do a few more things.
Title: Re: Ben Klassen's Grave
Post by: PaulW on Sun 03 Nov 2013
Well done brother, wish I was able to just pop over and give a hand. It would be good to see where our church began.

You never know one day I will get there. And its good to see our American brothers taking this issue up.
                                           
Title: Re: Ben Klassen's Grave
Post by: Rev.Cambeul on Mon 17 Apr 2017
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Before and After

There in the picture we have Reverend Will White Williams (https://creativityalliance.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=216) of Tennessee. He is standing proud at his friend's grave stone, because he has just cleaned up his friend's Necropolis.

Can you do better?

Reverend Williams is now head of the National Alliance. If a Creator does not volunteer, then I will ask my friend Reverend Will to have one of his National Alliance people clean up Ben Klassen's grave.

Hey, we have Creators in South Carolina and North Carolina ... Someone's got to be willing to get off their arse. Is Georgia further away from North Carolina than is Tennessee?

If any of you think that because I am in Australia, I have no right to make any demands of you, or decide how Founder Ben Klassen's grave is looked after: I speak with the full authority of PM Joe Esposito.  We will hand over the task to Will's people if you do not come forward.

PM Joe has the Klassen Necropolis tattooed onto his back from a photo that I supplied. Have you even thought about what Founder Klassen means to you?

@Cailen.
Title: Re: Ben Klassen's Grave
Post by: Rev.Cambeul on Tue 02 Mar 2021
Bump!

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