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Alcoholics Anonymous - Why Can't We Do That?
« on: 28 October 2011 at 07:56 »
What I mean to say is, why can't we do our own prevention programme for alcoholics based on Salubrious Living  and adherence to Creativity in its purest form? For that matter, why not for junk food-aholics, bulimics and the rest? An all encompassing programme that is set up to provide a service, promote our religion and continues with our ultimate goal of saving the White Race.

A rough outline would be accepting responsibility for your own actions. Recognise why you drink/eat/chunder as you do. Admit it. Move on and treat it with a special diet you must adhere to - the detox. In the long term, change the life pattern that causes you to drink/eat/chunder, and above all, you must embrace Creativity.

AA has a "Big Book" about this

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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous - Why Can't We Do That?
« Reply #1 on: 28 October 2011 at 13:45 »
It is a good idea and it will go far for the recruitment and retention of quality Creators. I've tried in the past to approach addicted Whites with the idea that Creativity itself will give them the direction and discipline they need to move forward with their lives. I've said it a number of times that conversion to Creativity gave me the structure and discipline to leave my hometown, earn a graduate degree, and become an asset to whatever job or organization I might take on. As far as health concerns go, I use SL as a guideline, fasting when needed and watching what I eat. I am better off for doing so.
It would be a good guide to hit a new recruit with. Self discipline is a good yardstick by which to measure a good Creator. If one can't control eating habits, etc. how can they be expected to be in prime shape to work for the Church?
The Big Blue Book minus the christinsanity that coddles the weak would indeed be a powerful resource for those who need it.
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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous - Why Can't We Do That?
« Reply #2 on: 28 October 2011 at 14:05 »
It is something I have often thought about... I walk around Belfast, and see a few men and women, fallen to the ills of addiction, and wonder how I could get them to stand up straight and proud again.

In my opinion, and perhaps this is specific to here, I think I would need a 'place'.. a house, farm or something, that would completely remove them from the ills they have fallen upon. From there all the personal stuff could be sorted, as well as all the mental/physical addiction stuff.
Not every person will come up to the mark, but my, the ones that do would be impressive people, having looked at the bottom of the barrel in the face.

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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous - Why Can't We Do That?
« Reply #3 on: 17 May 2012 at 03:45 »
This morning while scanning some family documents for a relative, I stumbled across a Church of England Temperance Society certificate issued to an aunt back in 1925.

"ADD TO YOUR FAITH VIRTUE AND TO VIRTUE KNOWLEDGE AND TO KNOWLEDGE TEMPERANCE"

While well and good for the Christinsane, we can issue the same type of thing for our Church and Supporters. Just replace the word Temperance with Salubrious and we have an addition to our own anti-alcohol and tobacco campaign.

Further research led to this ...


http://www.seayourhistory.org.uk/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=4790

Holding such a card meant that the holder had agreed to abstain from drinking any alcohol.

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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous - Why Can't We Do That?
« Reply #4 on: 17 May 2012 at 23:24 »
A good reminder to have by one's door. I tacked up the phrase "Honor is Life" by my door and even though I never go out to do any harm, it gives me a moment to pause. It is essential, especially for Creators to be above the common mentality. So even if you are living positively, as you should, it doesn't hurt to remind oneself, to continue to do so. Positive and honorable thoughts influence positive and honorable actions and words. That goes for work time and recreation time equally. Enjoy life, absolutely! We Creators are life affirming people! Take care though. We all know where moments of weakness and negativity can lead.
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Re: Alcoholics Anonymous - Why Can't We Do That?
« Reply #5 on: 04 December 2012 at 00:15 »
I think alcoholics are actually damaged people. Many have suffered bereavement, loss, trauma, stress, depression. Many are just inadequate in some way and need escape from reality in order to cope.
I think it brings in to question the whole spectrum of mental illness.
I have the advantage in that my father worked in mental health nursing for 30 years and i read all his books on it in my teens. My wife is a psychologist and i'm quite well read on the topic.
I don't actually take an extreme national socialist type view on mental illness (except in the case of the criminally insane) as more is known about it now. I think in the past the attitude was "just put them out of their misery" but new discoveries all the time often just point to deficiencies. (e.g. Lack of Omega 3 fatty acids being linked to depression- and abundant in fish oil)
The great thing about Creativity is that it does have a flexibility built in on the scientific principle to allow healing/ correction and advancement.
I admit I get depressed on occasion but I know that often it just comes with an upside too..like being Creative/original and generally it just passes like a dark rain cloud given a few hours.
Likewise with autism..these individuals have a quirky nature, are often wierd, outcast, anti-social and shunned  but the upside is that they can be highly inventive and original like the scientist Tesla.
What is needed with an alcoholic I think is understanding, often the hand of friendship, guidance and care. Afterall that if someone is intent on self destruction, there is little you can do and nature has to take its course.