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Re: National Anti-Gang/anti-White Taskforce
« Reply #20 on: 21 October 2013 at 07:11 »
This might sound stupid, but to make sure you operate within the limits of the law in your area, couldn't you just call City Hall or what ever your local Government office is calling itself and say:

"Hi, I'm interested in becoming a participant of a like minded group. I'm not interested in being involved with illegal activities so I'd like to know how I can still keep an active social affiliation with my friends without running into any legal conflicts."

Maybe they will even let you play the hypothetical game where you can get your way if you throw the right hypothetical scenario at them.

Example..

You and some friends just made a bunch of signs and want to have some fun walking around with your signs.

But for some reason, every time you go out with the signs you are harassed by the cops.

You try to get answers on how your signs can be made "street legal" while you are in the process of being told to stop, but it doesn't work.

Now you are mad.

What can you do?

You can call the local government office and ask them what the problem is, they will most likely tell you to contact the police chief, since he or she is the one in charge of the enforcement process for the most part.

After talking to them, you find out that your sign that says "IF IT AIN'T WHITE, SEND IT BACK TO AFRICA!!  VISIT: CREATIVITYALLIANCE.COM "

Counts as solicitation, because it is a "call to action" or Soliciting  people to go to CreativityAlliance.com

You find that it is perfectly alright for you to express an opinion or viewpoint as long as you are not "soliciting".

So although: "IF IT AIN'T WHITE, SEND IT BACK TO AFRICA!!  VISIT: CREATIVITYALLIANCE.COM "

is soliciting for Creativity alliance..

your opinion sign could say:

[ The "If It Aint White, Send It Back To Africa" Banner At CreativityAlliance.com Looks Awesome ]

Does not tell anyone to go to CreativityAlliance.com, but it just tells them that you think the banner there looks awesome.

Anyway.. I got off track a little bit but why not try:

"Hi, I'm interested in becoming a participant of a like minded group. I'm not interested in being involved with illegal activities so I'd like to know how I can still keep an active social affiliation with my friends without running into any legal conflicts."
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Re: National Anti-Gang/anti-White Taskforce
« Reply #21 on: 21 October 2013 at 09:03 »
"Hi, I'm interested in becoming a participant of a like minded group. I'm not interested in being involved with illegal activities so I'd like to know how I can still keep an active social affiliation with my friends without running into any legal conflicts."

 Do you know what would happen the moment that person would mention "White Race" and "Group?" Imagine the worst such as an innocent person being treated as if threatening the JOG in a round about way. They will get a visit from the coppers. Two carloads minimum, who would then search that naive Creator's home, ripping it apart. Before leaving and taking the husband with them for another two hour grilling in front of the cameras at the station. Possible charges include annoying the JOG, illegal weapons in the kitchen drawer and the garden shed, with the typical threat to the family and friends if you don't roll over.

There's a limit to what you can get away with. Provoke the JOG and you are up * creek. Go about your daily business and the only ones that notice you are the average coppers on the street - good and bad both - but without the JOG breathing down their necks, neither are a real problem for us, as they have their hands full obeying their own orders and convincing violent niggers to move on so they don't have to charge them with attempted murder after bashing another White man.

Look at the origins of the outlaw biker and you will see the same pattern that has been replicated in our Church. There is a reason why soldiers, bikers and Creators often cross paths. That's how it was for the Premier Church of the Creator under Ben Klassen and that's the way it is for us - especially as we brought back into the fold some of the more dedicated and hardened Creators from that era. Perhaps the difference with us is that we try to be more law abiding and reject the rabble rousing image, but the truth is that we are a religion. There are as many different styles and types of Creator as there are Creators, and that is what so mystifies the JOG, because unlike the motorcycle clubs and the skinhead gangs, we cannot and will not be nailed down.

Never voluntarily call the JOG for a conversation or you are guaranteed for a fall. You'd be better off walking right into a police station and chatting with porky at the front desk. He'll still ask for your details, but you probably wont hear from them again until it is we who come into the cross-hairs of the JOG.

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Re: National Anti-Gang/anti-White Taskforce
« Reply #22 on: 22 October 2013 at 05:59 »
   Alright, so legal situations may be different than what I expect but there has got to be a way to operate that won't get you in trouble. I still don't see the problem with asking the cops how you can stay out of trouble. If they want you to avoid specific individuals (because of outstanding legal issues with them), that may be one thing.

Cop: "We don't want to see Tom McCracken, or any other person on parole at your little so called club house because that is a violation of their parole."

You: "Ok, well is it ok if he is present via webcam? He was supposed to give a speech next week and usually handles the candy and coupon raffle."

Cop: " A Speech about what? What's this candy and coupon raffle all about?"

You: " Oh well I called last week and asked if it would be illegal is we all put some candy and some coupons in a bucket and raffled off numbers. Its not for money or anything but just a fun social gathering thing. As for his speech I'm guessing its going to be some heritage or culture things."

Cops: "Well as long as there is no illegal activity and nobody there is breaking their parole by being there physically there shouldn't be a problem."

You: "Ok, I was also told that our little clubhouse met some criteria that made you folks uneasy about it. I'd like to know what that criteria is and how we can socialize together and hold gatherings without you folks giving us negative labels and interrupting our functions. "

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Seriously, if you are part of a group that is having legal issues, please try this and post the responce.

Maybe you can email your local authorities so you can get a text reply.


If you are part of a group, maybe the group can get some pre-paid legal services.

Since we are an international group here, I felt the need to find a global legal service provider.

I found a legal provider that says something about international legal coverage for organisations and stuff.

Their link is here: http://www.legalplans.com

I sent them a message with a question about obtaining coverage for a group such as ours.

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Hello, I was wondering what cost and extent of coverage I could get for a small international organisation.


I'm pretty sure I would like consultation services for hypothetical situations pertaining to specific locations and situations to make sure there are no legal conflicts involved.


Usually I tell people to just contact their local authorities and ask them but they claim their local authorities are less than polite and they would rather wing it and hope they aren't going to get in trouble.


I think this is a horrible idea and feel that if they are afraid to talk to their local government services they should at least be able to have access to a neutral party (lawyer) to either contact them on their behalf or to be able to locate any legal conflicts in the written laws.


I'm also pretty sure that I'd be interested in information about coverage for events that associated members would host, for instance, if someone falls and gets hurt, if equipment breaks, if someone is arrested, I'd like for them to be able to call on some 3rd party group legal representation subscription.


I hope that answers some of your questions. Let me know what you have in mind.


I'd like to keep our communication in E-mail since I'll be sharing the reply with others.
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Re: National Anti-Gang/anti-White Taskforce
« Reply #23 on: 22 October 2013 at 08:15 »
The response to the questions would be like this."Listen buddy! your gang is seriously out doing our "Big Blue " gang as well as the Gang we got going in the Legislative assembley. We hate the competition! We are going to legislate against any Legal or illegal club who are a group of 3 or more convicted crooks... we don't give a stuff if they have only been convicted of drinking and driving or larceny of a Mars bar.. they are criminals and we are going to send you to a "Bikie " only Gaol and crush all your toys .. that's right no more Harley's for you guys!
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Re: National Anti-Gang/anti-White Taskforce
« Reply #24 on: 22 October 2013 at 08:20 »
I would then ask:

"What if it was a meeting of 50 like minded, but independent groups, consisting of 2 members each?"
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