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Quote from: John52 on Fri 02 Aug 2013
But since you brought up Toth and Idolatry, I would just like to point out that a physical object like a statue has less to do with Idolatry than the belief in a false character. There is really nothing wrong with a religious icon as long it is understood in its proper context.

True Idolatry would be likened to our Modern day Christians who believe the Jews are G-ds chosen people without even knowing them. There is also the literal belief in Jesus, that he can walk on water etc..That would be Idolatry, or putting the persona before the Life Force.

So in my view Idolatry is basically how we view a persona of a religion. The one who commits Idolatry would be the one who doesn't understand who the characters actually were. That's when we cross the line and start believing in imaginary beings who never existed. That's when it's a problem, but for example.....I believe this would be a healthy state of mind in regards to religion.. 



Well you see Catholics are commonly accused of worshipping Idols as they say "heil Mary's" these are prayers directed to Mary. The Bible doesn't say to worship Mary, it says to worship God and Jesus. Many Catholics have idols like crucifix pendents that they believe will bring them good luck and rosary beads etc.This is worshiping an idol.

Then there are these clowns that see "Mary" in the form of salt damp on a church .. or they found a potato chip that looks like her.. or some silly apparition... and they all go down to observe this "magic salt damp on the church wall" and say prayers to it. This is Idolatory.

Many Christians feel the Catholic church is all about traditionalism and they don't follow the Bible by the book, they believe they are Idiolators if anyone doesn't worship God or Jesus and no body but them.. that simple. If you don't worship God or Jesus they think you are born in "original sin" due to Adam and Eve being corrupted by demons.. and you can't take your sins to heaven as you have to be "born again" and Accept Jesus as your saviour.

If you try and talk about things like Pyramid power, aincient buildings and things like crystal healing or Pyramid power they instantly don't see these things as sciences.. they say these are people who are possessed by demons.

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Jesus Christ Was Invented By The Romans To Quash Rebellion

Andrew Berry | International Business Times | October 09 2013

http://www.ibtimes.com/author-claims-jesus-christ-was-invented-romans-quash-rebellion-1419808

An American self-described Bible scholar says he has discovered evidence that the story of Jesus Christ was invented by the Romans. According to a http://uk.prweb.com/releases/2013/10/prweb11201273.htm press release, Joseph Atwill will present his findings at a symposium in London on Oct. 19 called "Covert Messiah," where he will delve into how the New Testament and Jesus Christ was fabricated by first-century Roman rulers in an effort to pacify subjects of the empire.

In his press release, Atwill says he doesn't want to "harm" Christianity, but calls his claimed discovery "important" for society as a whole. "Alert citizens need to know the truth about our past so we can understand how and why governments create false histories and false gods," he writes. "They often do it to obtain a social order that is against the best interests of the common people."

Atwill says the Romans resorted to a "psychological warfare" when they created the story of a Messiah in order to quell Jewish sects who had started to rebel.

"Jewish sects in Palestine at the time, who were waiting for a prophesied warrior Messiah, were a constant source of violent insurrection during the first century," he writes. "When the Romans had exhausted conventional means of quashing rebellion, they switched to psychological warfare. They surmised that the way to stop the spread of zealous Jewish missionary activity was to create a competing belief system. That's when the 'peaceful' Messiah story was invented. Instead of inspiring warfare, this Messiah urged turn-the-other-cheek pacifism and encouraged Jews to 'give onto Caesar' and pay their taxes to Rome."

Jesus Christ never existed, Atwill maintains. "In fact he may be the only fictional character in literature whose entire life story can be traced to other sources. Once those sources are all laid bare, there's simply nothing left."

Atwill said he had his "eureka" moment when he was compared "War of the Jews" by Flavius Josephus -- which is the only remaining first-person account of first-century Judea -- with the New Testament. "I started to notice a sequence of parallels between the two texts," he says. "Although it's been recognized by Christian scholars for centuries that the prophecies of Jesus appear to be fulfilled by what Josephus wrote about in the First Jewish-Roman War, I was seeing dozens more. What seems to have eluded many scholars is that the sequence of events and locations of Jesus' ministry are more or less the same as the sequence of events and locations of the military campaign of Titus Flavius [later emperor] as described by Josephus. This is clear evidence of a deliberately constructed pattern. The biography of Jesus is actually constructed, tip to stern, on prior stories, but especially on the biography of a Roman Caesar."

While it would seem strange that such a discovery would only be made after 2,000 years, Atwill says many of the parallel traits between the two texts are "conceptual or poetic," so they wouldn't have been obvious to the casual reader. "The authors did not want the average believer to see what they were doing, but they did want the alert reader to see it," he says. "An educated Roman in the ruling class would probably have recognized the literary game being played."

"The Roman Caesars left us a kind of puzzle literature that was meant to be solved by future generations, and the solution to that puzzle is 'We invented Jesus Christ, and we're proud of it,'" Atwill adds.

Atwill acknowledges that his findings probably won't bring about the end of Christianity as we know it, but it allows doubters to "make a clean break" from the religion. "We've got the evidence now to show exactly where the story of Jesus came from," he asserts. "Although Christianity can be a comfort to some, it can also be very damaging and repressive, an insidious form of mind control that has led to blind acceptance of serfdom, poverty, and war throughout history. To this day, especially in the United States, it is used to create support for war in the Middle East."

Atwill will discuss his controversial theory of Jesus being invented by the Romans when he speaks at Conway Hall in London on Oct. 19. There will be a Q&A session after his presentation.







http://uk.prweb.com/releases/2013/10/prweb11201273.htm

Atwill encourages skeptics to challenge him at Conway Hall, where after the presentations there is likely to be a lively Q&A session. Joining Mr.Atwill will be fellow scholar Kenneth Humphreys, author of the book "Jesus Never Existed."

Further information can be found at http://www.covertmessiah.com

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Another article backing the Caesar titus/ jesus theory
http://guardianlv.com/2013/10/jesus-was-made-up/


The thing is we all know it was the Jews of the Essene sect that originated Christianity, concocted it and distilled it as a deadly mind poison. A jew egg, A brain bomb. These articles trying to blame the Romans is a deflection, fog and smoke, because the Credo of Creativity is getting through. It is only a matter of time before the whole jewish-christian conspiracy is mainstream thought.
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Actually, once the Jesus/Caesar revelation sunk in, I got curious as to the why, which was something that Carotta never answered. My conclusion - and to me it was totally obvious - was that it was a political ploy by the Romans to control the revolting Jew and keep peace in the empire. It of course backfired as the Jew in return used it as a method of co-opting the slaves of the empire into their planned destruction of the Roman race and way of life - which is why Christinsanity was ignored in the Jewish segments of the empire while vigorously put down in the non-Jewish segments of the empire.

Well, that was my conclusion, and it looks like Atwill has proven me correct. However, even Atwill doesn't take the next and logical step and point the finger at the Jew. He instead joins with the Jew to lambaste the Romans, turning the ever scheming Jew into the all-time ultimate victim. But I do see that logical next step being taken by people in general as Creativity spreads throughout the White World, and righteous anger against the scheming Jew takes the place of that impious pity of Christinsanity.

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Full Video: CAESAR'S MESSIAH: The Roman Conspiracy to Invent Jesus



Seven of today's most controversial Bible scholars reveal their shocking conclusions about the origins of Christianity. Based on the best-selling religious studies book by Joseph Atwill, this documentary shows that Jesus is not a historical figure, the events of Jesus' life were based on a Roman military campaign, his supposed second coming refers to a historical event that already occurred, the teachings of Christ came from the ancient pagan mystery schools, and the Gospels were written by a family of Caesars and their supporters, who left us documents to prove it.

Dissecting the history and literature of this time, the scholars show that the Gospels are a sophisticated pro-Roman multi-layered allegorical text that could not have been written by simple Jewish fishermen. Noting that the history officially provided by the Church does not hold up to rigorous scrutiny, the scholars agree that Christianity was used as a political tool to control the masses of the day, and is still being used this way today.

Much like the ancient era from which Christianity emerged, we are currently on the brink of an immense paradigm shift, and studying this history can help us understand modern-day politics, and give us the much-needed perspective for coming up with solutions to today's problems, in order to create the better world that we envision.

Featured scholars are Joseph Atwill, Robert Eisenman, John Hudson, Kenneth Humphreys, Rod Blackhirst, Acharya S / D.M. Murdock, and Timothy Freke.   
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Written by Nijole Sparkis and Joseph Atwill
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